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[Maiden Voyage]

Suggesting a more decentralized internet is a bad thing isn't fair. In fact, I would prefer it. It defuses the madness and prevent any one voice or forum to overrun the narrative. I think it's a healthier world to have dozens of smaller communities to discuss things than one global system which allows for abuse or inappropriate amplification of messaging.

It's interesting to me that (and I am generalizing big time here) those who openly support the wall do not want digital walls around communities. Those that want open borders, want the digital sphere to be isolated from people they don't like.

It's a bit of a head scratcher to me.

Lost in all the shitlib bluecheck gloating over Twitter is that the site never made any money and was universally acknowledged to be the worst run big tech site. One that had tons of unmet potential, could never figure it out, and was in major need of a shake up. So I can’t see why a major shake up is a bad thing or anything.

Imagine going to your local walmart and all but 10% of the staff are left. No one is manning the registers so only the self-checkout lines are running. When there is a problem with the kiosk, there's very few people to come over and diagnose a solution. That's roughly what Twitter is going through. Whether the remaining employees are enough to troubleshoot is yet to be seen.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

Sounds like Mastodon will only worsen the balkanization of the internet and the creation of information bubbles. The resulting fragmented audience is why this will never be as attractive to media outlets as something like Twitter or Insta.

You mean go back to the days before the giant monolithic data sucking companies like Facebook, TikTok, etc?

Sign me up please.

 

[V1LÆM]

You mean go back to the days before the giant monolithic data sucking companies like Facebook, TikTok, etc?

Sign me up please.

i wish we all never left myspace for facebook. we didn't know how good we had it. all we had to worry about was our shitty html skills, who our top 5 were, and picking a profile song that defined us.

 

[diffusionx]

It's interesting to me that (and I am generalizing big time here) those who openly support the wall do not want digital walls around communities. Those that want open borders, want the digital sphere to be isolated from people they don't like.

It's a bit of a head scratcher to me.


Imagine going to your local walmart and all but 10% of the staff are left. No one is manning the registers so only the self-checkout lines are running. When there is a problem with the kiosk, there's very few people to come over and diagnose a solution. That's roughly what Twitter is going through. Whether the remaining employees are enough to troubleshoot is yet to be seen.

Who cares. It’s Twitter. My guess is everything will be fine and most of those employees, despite their belief that they are mission critical geniuses, were totally disposable and this will be a reality check for them. If it isn’t fine, it is Twitter. My local Walmart is unironically more important to peoples’ lives than Twitter.

 

[Maiden Voyage]

Who cares. It’s Twitter. My guess is everything will be fine and most of those employees, despite their belief that they are mission critical geniuses, were totally disposable and this will be a reality check for them. If it isn’t fine, it is Twitter. My local Walmart is unironically more important to peoples’ lives than Twitter.

It's just a simile, I'm not trying to suggest any importance of Twitter in people's lives.

 

[akimbo009]

It's interesting to me that (and I am generalizing big time here) those who openly support the wall do not want digital walls around communities. Those that want open borders, want the digital sphere to be isolated from people they don't like.

It's a bit of a head scratcher to me.

It's definitely a generalizing there, but I get your meaning and theme. It's an odd tendency of these huge communities who, I'd argue, aren't at all communities - more like mobs or something akin to that. It's a behavior you see when you become anonymous in large groups who share similar views or values. In the end, it's a shit show.

It's why I do prefer smaller, more community oriented forums (like here, other forums (cause I also like the format), or what could happen with matadon). Big huge public spaces like Twitter or FB have really made things unpleasant no matter the discussion because of how they area structured and the amplifier model that wins out in the narratives.

Anyway, I don't know if we'd go back to a more fragmented internet - I know advertisers would be sad and some of these big idea tech companies would have to reset, but I do think have a little more segmentation would provide a failsafe for run away narratives.

 

[Aesius]

i wish we all never left myspace for facebook. we didn't know how good we had it. all we had to worry about was our shitty html skills, who our top 5 were, and picking a profile song that defined us.

Top 8 drama, shitty emo blogs, autoplaying songs, and an endless supply of hot scene girls. Yeah, MySpace was the shit. For teens, it was essentially a social network version of a dating site.

Also, at one point I somehow found a tracker for MySpace that allowed me to see who visited my page. That was a massive upper-hand when trying to run MySpace game.

 

[DeepEnigma]

My local Walmart is unironically more important to peoples’ lives than Twitter.

LOL, sad but true.

 

[YCoCg]

I'd respect Elon here if he at least stopped shit posting. Like own up that things haven't gone as planned and announce he's going quiet for a week to strictly focus on the business structure instead of just posting memes every hour.

 

[strange headache]

You mean go back to the days before the giant monolithic data sucking companies like Facebook, TikTok, etc?

Sign me up please.

You are already signed up... it's called a forum.

But that's not what media personalities, politicians and advertisers find interesting due to the limited audience reach.
You're sorely mistaken if you think you can put the genie back in the box.

 

[Pegasus Actual]

The badge guy is just a joke but it's hilarious nonetheless.


What's a tea melon?

The British have many such strange sounding delights.

 

[Swift_Star]

Not true. Making blanket statements like this is laughable.

For a start off it assumes the home life of every employee is the same, that they all have space and quiet and are free from distractions like kids and family members wanting/needing their attention but now are not allowed to get it because its "work" time.

If you "love it", fine. But everyone? Hell, fucking no. Obviously.

Not even everyone who works for themselves from home is going to "love it"!

Sure, Jan. Must be why people are quitting their jobs when forced to go back to the office lol

 

[Maiden Voyage]

Tesla stock has definitely taken a hit since Musk took over at Twitter. Curious how the stock will continue to perform until Musk finds his new CEO among the team working now. At least, I presume the new CEO will be the person most helpful during this current time.

5-year here for comparison:

 

[Trazyn the Infinite]

It genuinely concerns me when people think Elon is funny when in reality he’s just a manchild. Do you guys not see that the way he’s acting is just his ego short-circuiting?

It’s a federated network, servers that allow that kind of content are banned - and if your admin missed one, just report.

If you don’t believe me, just check the list of banned servers in your server.

They still exist and I want no part in dealing with a site of mentally challlenged era pedos.

 

[V1LÆM]

Top 8 drama, shitty emo blogs, autoplaying songs, and an endless supply of hot scene girls. Yeah, MySpace was the shit. For teens, it was essentially a social network version of a dating site.

Also, at one point I somehow found a tracker for MySpace that allowed me to see who visited my page. That was a massive upper-hand when trying to run MySpace game.

never thought of it as a dating site before but it makes sense. i met a few girlfriends through it and if i was trying to impress a girl i'd do my page up lol.

i'd like myspace to come back but more mature. i mean not targeted at a young audience but the people who used it back then. so late 20s to maybe mid/late 30's?

 

[SlimySnake]

Are they?

From what I can tell, the devs hardly did anything. At least not the ones doing frontend stuff.

So long as they have server people, and a few working in the algorithms (though really, surely those are pretty much done by now?), what else is there?

Twitter is barely profitable (often not) and has only been successful by being a first-mover and lucky.

They wouldnt have been hired if they werent needed.

 

[Trazyn the Infinite]

They wouldnt have been hired if they werent needed.

That was already disproven. They hired far too many to quickly. The old heads confirmed it. Companies do this all the time.

 

[Maiden Voyage]

never thought of it as a dating site before but it makes sense. i met a few girlfriends through it and if i was trying to impress a girl i'd do my page up lol.

i'd like myspace to come back but more mature. i mean not targeted at a young audience but the people who used it back then. so late 20s to maybe mid/late 30's?

MySpace chic is back.

I'm going to embed the sickest Alkaline Trio song in my BG on my profile.

 

[V1LÆM]

MySpace chic is back.

hey, is that xXx_emilygoes_RAWR@_the_D1Sc0!_xXx

?

 

[diffusionx]

They wouldnt have been hired if they werent needed.

Watch some “Day in the life of a ___ year old <Insert Big Tech> employeee” on TikTok and get back to me on that.

 

[Maiden Voyage]

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

They still exist and I want no part in dealing with a site of mentally challlenged era pedos.

How? By definition you would be on a different website that allows no communication with them.

It’s like saying you don’t want to use the internet because they use it.

 

[akimbo009]

Watch some “Day in the life of a ___ year old <Insert Big Tech> employeee” on TikTok and get back to me on that.

You trust TikTok videos to inform your thinking.......


Ok then.

 

[V1LÆM]

I'm going to embed the sickest Alkaline Trio song in my BG on my profile.

well it has to be either armageddon or radio

 

[SlimySnake]

Dude hit the nail on the head

I HATED the cult of Steve Jobs, and I liked his products. The iPod, iPhone, iPad and iWatch are revolutionary products but ffs why do we put these mother fuckers on a pedestal? Jobs especially was a piece of shit in real life who spent years denying his daughter was his real daughter and treated his workers poorly until he couldnt afford to. We need to stop thinking we need an Einstein kind of celebrity in our life time. Sadly we dont have a genius like that and probably never will. Musk is no Tesla no matter how much he wants to be. Maybe Edison but Edison was a cunt and a cheat.

I admire what hes done with Tesla even though he ran it very poorly in the early days. It's still too expensive to manufacture so hes not doing too well there either. His focus should be on making them cheaper and easier to produce. My brother bought a tesla for $50k and just a year later, got $68k for it from insurance after it was totaled. Most people cant afford a $70k car. thats where his focus should be but hes spending all day literally shitposting on twitter and then chastizing his employees for not working all night.

I get that we have no real role models right now. Our politicians are awful, actors are out of touch, and there is literally no one to look up to but billionares are not the answer. Bezos had people peeing in jars and wearing slave tags to ensure they kept working all day. These people are modern day slave owners. Fuck em.

 

[Trazyn the Infinite]

How? By definition you would be on a different website that allows no communication with them.

It’s like saying you don’t want to use the internet because they use it.

 

[Maiden Voyage]

well it has to be either armageddon or radio

Just broke up w/ my gf of 2 weeks

 

[diffusionx]

You trust TikTok videos to inform your thinking.......


Ok then.

It’s all data points. But as I said earlier in this thread, Twitter never made money and was always thought to be the worst run of the big tech sites. The idea that every single employee that worked there was needed and important is just nonsense, it’s true at any company but the tech companies are all out of control and bloated. Zuckerberg said as much as last week. The entire industry is correcting.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

Then why are you on gaf?

mastodon.online and naughtyserver.online are different sites that use the same software (mastodon) and there is no communication between them
neogaf. and resetera.com are different sites that use the same software (zenforo) and there is no communication between them.

By your own terms you are already dealing with a site of mentally challenged era pedos.

 

[pleaseinsertdisctwo]

They still exist and I want no part in dealing with a site of mentally challlenged era pedos.

You’re right :/ I’m just projecting thank you for calling me out. Elon is the king of maturity and actually I’m just mad that he isn’t boning me.

 

[Toons]

Dude hit the nail on the head

Spoke nothing but facts. Hard to even argue.

 

[Vestal]

The lack of understanding in this thread of the required workforce and expertise needed to maintain such a high usage and public used application like Twitter is ASTONISHING. Pretty evident that most people making these comments, have never worked in in the IT Industry, much less in Cyber Security.

Can Twitter survive with a skeleton crew? Maybe...
Will the platform be secure and completely stable? I have a bridge to sell you.

 

[Maiden Voyage]

Muskrat is out. Elmo is in.

Twitter insiders are calling Elon Musk by a new nickname, Elmo. It's spreading on the platform.

Elon Musk has owned Twitter for about three weeks and already his new employees are finding new ways to criticize him.

www.businessinsider.com

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Elon Musk has a new nickname to go along with his new ownership of Twitter.

The billionaire is now being referred to as "Elmo" inside the company, according to two people familiar with the matter. It began as a joke, one of the people said, given the close spelling of the Muppet's name to Musk's own and the irony of Musk's temperamental personality in contrast to that of the kind and curious "Sesame Street" character.

However, use of Elmo to discuss Musk has become more commonplace in recent weeks, as Musk has turned Twitter into "a dictatorship," one former employee said. There are potentially fewer repercussions from criticizing your billionaire boss if you can argue you were discussing a puppet, not the CEO.

Since enacting mass layoffs two weeks ago, Musk has taken to firing employees who have criticised him or his decisions related to Twitter. Many such employees were high ranking and experienced, leaving insiders even more concerned that Twitter is at risk of a crash or major failure in functionality, given an already thin and overworked staff.

Elmo is also gaining traction as a nickname for Musk on Twitter itself. Thousands of recent Tweets and comments clearly discussing Musk only mention the Muppet by name. Discussing Musk under his new nickname keeps the CEO from trending and it keeps critics out of his mentions. Musk frequently responds to his mentions on Twitter and engages with critics, often leading to his supporters and bots to inundate such threads.

"Stop calling him Elmo," one Twitter user wrote yesterday. "It's screwing up my Muppet feed."

It's unclear exactly where or when the nickname started. A Reddit post from 2018 notes that "Elmo Sunk" is an anagram for Elon Musk, but it gained little traction at the time. Elmo being used to discuss Musk on Twitter seems to have started the week he showed up at headquarters and it became clear he was intent on taking over the company after spending months trying to back out of the $44 billion deal.

Several years ago in China, President Xi Jinping started to be compared to another beloved character created for children: Winnie the Pooh. As memes comparing the president to the cartoon bear became popular and proliferated online, China's Great Firewall effectively blocked Winnie the Pooh and any such related content, even banning a 2018 movie.

Musk is yet to ban Elmo from Twitter.

Musk is yet to ban Elmo from Twitter.

 

[dottme]

Are they trying to transfer their audience before then possible death of Twitter.


i don’t use Twitter that much but I fell that the first time I see this kind of tweets.

 

[Bragr]

Literally the only people saying that are CEO's that want full control of the employers. The workers themselves love working from home.
You can go to the office once a week, twice a month whatever, but it's completely unnecessary and a waste of time and money to do so.
Also, the other reason they want employers to go to the office is to not DEVALUE the buildings. They don't care about work culture lmao. They only care about money. The smart CEOs have already disposed of their buildings. The dumb ones haven't.

He's completely unreliable. He's a manchild crying that people don't want to work with him because he's a terrible leader, he's incompetent, he can't handle critiques. Long story shot: he sucks at his job.
Also, he wanted devs to crunch, to work long hours and during weekends lmao.
Nobody trusts Elon. You shouldn't either.

First, please, enough with "literally".

Not all workers "love" to work from home, work culture improve work. A lot of people can't stand the work-from-home culture. Working from home becomes a crutch for too many people, and when you need to develop new services at the rate Twitter needs right now, you need the workers actually showing up. It completely depends on the sort of work that needs doing but getting to talk to people and showing them what you do face-to-face is considerably better for the workers and the company.

Just because there are some things Elon said that you can't stand doesn't mean all he says is wrong at all times. When he is saying he needs people to come to work, and the employees are pushing back, it's clearly a sign that that is in fact, what is happening. Throwing a fit against Elon and dismissing everything he says is childish.

 

[Aesius]

The lack of understanding in this thread of the required workforce and expertise needed to maintain such a high usage and public used application like Twitter is ASTONISHING. Pretty evident that most people making these comments, have never worked in in the IT Industry, much less in Cyber Security.

Can Twitter survive with a skeleton crew? Maybe...
Will the platform be secure and completely stable? I have a bridge to sell you.

I'll admit I'm one of the clueless people about what it takes to keep Twitter running.

What would happen if literally every developer/software engineer simply stopped updating/working on Twitter code? How long would it take for the website and app to become non-functional? Would that actually happen or would it just become extremely vulnerable to exploits and hacks over time?

 

[Trazyn the Infinite]

Then why are you on gaf?

mastodon.online and naughtyserver.online are different sites that use the same software (mastodon) and there is no communication between them
neogaf. and resetera.com are different sites that use the same software (zenforo) and there is no communication between them.

By your own terms you are already dealing with a site of mentally challenged era pedos.

 

[Maiden Voyage]

Are they trying to transfer their audience before then possible death of Twitter.


i don’t use Twitter that much but I fell that the first time I see this kind of tweets.

Rumors have it the people who know how to solve ongoing problems related to the infrastructure code of Twitter are gone from the company. If true, there is a very real possibility of extended downtime. Full collapse is not likely IMO but who knows. I think people are just hedging in case things do go down.

I'll admit I'm one of the clueless people about what it takes to keep Twitter running.

What would happen if literally every developer/software engineer simply stopped updating/working on Twitter code? How long would it take for the website and app to become non-functional? Would that actually happen or would it just become extremely vulnerable to exploits and hacks over time?

I saw some tweets from "former employees" that were giving it a week. Impossible to actually verify though.

 

[ManaByte]

 

[Trazyn the Infinite]

You’re right :/ I’m just projecting thank you for calling me out. Elon is the king of maturity and actually I’m just mad that he isn’t boning me.

Nah. Not defending musk. Just laughing at how everything you called him could easily be applied to how you conduct yourself on GAF.

 

[Vestal]

I'll admit I'm one of the clueless people about what it takes to keep Twitter running.

What would happen if literally every developer/software engineer simply stopped updating/working on Twitter code? How long would it take for the website and app to become non-functional? Would that actually happen or would it just become extremely vulnerable to exploits and hacks over time?

As far as an App breaking due to lack of maintenance? It depends on how they are setup.. Do they have batch jobs that go do cleanup on Databases, audit logs etc or are they manual? Does Twitter have an automated DR(Disaster Recovery) plan or does it need to be manually triggered? Is all of that process documented?

From a Vulnerability perspective. Vulnerabilities continue to pop up as the days go by... To address any vulnerability you need to test your patch. Depending on how well documented the dependencies of your software are you may need to test pretty much every aspect of it.

That's not even taking into consideration, Vulnerability management for all of your other applications within your environment and how that could innadvertently affect your primary Business App.

 

[Rentahamster]

What will be the first major milestone where we can all reassess ourselves to see if we're caught in a dunning kruger information bubble? If/when Twitter actually experiences extended non-scheduled downtime? How long of an uptime will Twitter need to undergo in order to confidently come to the conclusion that the early doomsaying was exaggerated? How long and how severe of a downtime will Twitter need to experience in order to confidently come to the conclusion that the early doomsaying was accurate?

 

[Kraz]

I'd respect Elon here if he at least stopped shit posting. Like own up that things haven't gone as planned and announce he's going quiet for a week to strictly focus on the business structure instead of just posting memes every hour.

With the amount of meme magic he's looking like the leader of a cargo cult.

 

[Swift_Star]

Throwing a fit against Elon and dismissing everything he says is childish.

You do know this is LITERALLY what Elon and his fans do, right?

 

[Sybrix]

WTF is going on?

Twitter is a place of work, it has a workforce that have mortgages and families to provide for.

Imagine at your place of work your boss acting like Elon is, how demoralizing you must feel, i'd stick my middle finger up to Elon and go elsewhere.

I dont get what Musk is trying to achieve with this type of behaviour.

 

[Swift_Star]

Elon is so pathetic. Amazing.

 

[Trazyn the Infinite]

You do know this is LITERALLY what Elon and his fans do, right?

It certainly has been your MO in this thread.

 

[Aesius]

As far as an App breaking due to lack of maintenance? It depends on how they are setup.. Do they have batch jobs that go do cleanup on Databases, audit logs etc or are they manual? Does Twitter have an automated DR(Disaster Recovery) plan or does it need to be manually triggered? Is all of that process documented?

From a Vulnerability perspective. Vulnerabilities continue to pop up as the days go by... To address any vulnerability you need to test your patch. Depending on how well documented the dependencies of your software are you may need to test pretty much every aspect of it.

That's not even taking into consideration, Vulnerability management for all of your other applications within your environment and how that could innadvertently affect your primary Business App.

Thanks! I'm guessing there's also constant work to be done to keep Twitter's website and app working well with new updates of browsers, Android, iOS, etc.?

 

[Maiden Voyage]

 

[Vestal]

Thanks! I'm guessing there's also constant work to be done to keep Twitter's website and app working well with new updates of browsers, Android, iOS, etc.?

Its a never ending battle to keep your software compliant.