Dr.D00p
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Load of ignorant, sneering, Euro-trash drivel.
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Load of ignorant, sneering, Euro-trash drivel.
Maiden Voyage
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New interview that came out today with Musk. Nothing new here except another mention of adding video support for potential revenue (and presumably, to better attract influencers & content creators).
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www.reuters.com
Elon Musk says 'I have too much work on my plate'
Billionaire Elon Musk said on Monday he was working "at the absolute most amount...from morning til night, seven days a week" when asked about his recent acquisition of Twitter and his leadership of automaker Tesla Inc .
www.reuters.com
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Bitmap Frogs
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Wikipedia co-founder says site is now ‘propaganda’ for left-leaning ‘establishment’
Wikipedia co-founder Larry Sanger has warned that the website can no longer be trusted — insisting it is now just “propaganda” for the left-leaning “establishment.”nypost.com
It's not materially better than garbage owned by Meta or Google.
Larry is complaining that wiki doesn't allow things like misinformation about the COVID vaccine and calling that censorship.
The better also adhere the best to professional journalistic standards. Twitter has been one of the helpful sources for crosschecking news for Ukraine and finding the better articles, which the twitter moderation standards in place at the time seemed to help with too.
There are complaints like this which might show something of the problem
taking out domestic politics when looking closer at the articleWikipedia co-founder says site is now ‘propaganda’ for left-leaning ‘establishment’
Wikipedia co-founder Larry Sanger has warned that the website can no longer be trusted — insisting it is now just “propaganda” for the left-leaning “establishment.”
It's not materially better than garbage owned by Meta or Google.
Now, he insisted, conservative voices are "sternly warned if not kicked out" if they try to add a different take on establishment views — which Sanger deemed "propaganda."
"You can't cite Fox News on socio-political issues. It's just banned now,"
That news org was regularly pushing Russian falsehoods, like malicious US biolabs in Ukraine, it's understandable that a blanket ban was made at some point. That's not rightwing, that's foreign war propaganda against the US and democracies.
No doubt such occurrences, if regular, would make people wonder about the security of Western news. But, it seems that Twitter, with the standards it had, contributed to helping clear that up and demonstrated how Western news can be manipulated and used by its enemies.
DeepEnigma
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It's their entire MO.
So this senator colluded with the WAPO to impersonate his own account only to then complain that his account got impersonated after allowing for his account to be impersonated.
Can't make this sh*t up
All the left wing media outlets claim the labs story as false. Yes, as they frame the story it is false, but only because they are adding framing that fox and right wing media has never claimed. The biolabs exist. The US has been supporting them. They house dangerous biological threats. They are not weapons labs. That last one is where the story becomes false. Did fox call them weapons labs? Nope, it was added by CNN msnbc Washington post and left wing outlets so they can claim the story is false.
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Elon's the guy who would jump up as volunteer to fly a plane when both pilots have heart attacks because he was pretty good at Ace Combat 4 back in the day
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"If you really think about about wings, they weigh a lot and increase drag on the plane quite a bit. So we've eliminated them, making this a more efficient veh-….."
There was fearmongering all over the place. Which may have been why that other user complained about zealous reverence for media outlets in the US. It may come down to resources with Wikipedia and news of this is sort to dedicate to the argumentation.
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Bitmap Frogs
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Carlson said on air that what Russia said about the bio labs was true.
"Quote, "Russian disinformation has a track record of floating manipulative narratives about biological weapons and alleged secret labs." Yes, we're not going to do a segment about secret labs in Ukraine. The last thing we want to do on this show is traffic in Russian disinformation spread by QAnon, so we took a pass on that story.
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Under oath in an open committee hearing, Toria Nuland just confirmed that the Russian disinformation they've been telling us for days is a lie and a conspiracy theory and crazy and immoral to believe, is in fact, totally and completely true. Whoa."
This aired march 14, so yes fox did say that the weapon biolabs existed.
Take it as you will, I will not discuss this topic further because it's getting very political.
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Maiden Voyage
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Wild blog post. I was curious how many with offers to return actually took them up on it. Grain of sand ever and all, as this is an outsider looking in.
blog.pragmaticengineer.com
Cruel Changes at Twitter
The speedrun for a complete culture overhaul at Twitter continues, and may conclude just two weeks after Elon Musk bought the company. Managers will have 20+ reports and are expected to code at least 20% of the time.
blog.pragmaticengineer.com
Maiden Voyage
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IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
10 second google:
Tucker Carlson said:
Tucker: The Pentagon is lying about bio labs in Ukraine
"Tucker Carlson Tonight" welcomed guests Tulsi Gabbard, Steven Mosher, Darren Beattie, Stephanie Nash, Royce White and Dan Holloway.
www.foxnews.com
StreetsofBeige
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LOL.
Who would had thought publicly downplaying the CEO in public would be a career mistake? Tech employees. The industry where so many of them snip at the world (including bosses). Said many times on this forum. Techies need some training classes involving professional demeanor on social media.
I'd love to see how their internal meetings at the office are involving lots of people. I can see them all jumping out of their chairs yelling questions and accusations every second while someone at the front is presentation.
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See, certain fanboys will run with the fact that this guy should be fired for mouthing off in public, and use it to obscure the fact that others agree with him that Elon is showing how ignorant he is of his own product.
Don't mouth off in public. Also: boss is dumb.
Maiden Voyage
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Elon Musk pay package at Tesla challenged in court
Testimony is under way in a shareholder lawsuit challenging approval by Tesla’s board of directors of a compensation plan potentially worth more than $55 billion for CEO Elon Musk.
apnews.com
Wild blog post. I was curious how many with offers to return actually took them up on it. Grain of sand ever and all, as this is an outsider looking in.
Cruel Changes at Twitter
The speedrun for a complete culture overhaul at Twitter continues, and may conclude just two weeks after Elon Musk bought the company. Managers will have 20+ reports and are expected to code at least 20% of the time.
Engineers flock to Tesla and SpaceX because they're on the cutting edge of exciting new technology and they can have some of the highest impact in their respective fields. It's also a prestige position that will make the rest of their careers, even if the workplace environment is hellish and underpaid.
No one will ever see working at Twitter in that same light under Elon's management. We can see that Elon is already trying with his "foster a free speech platform for citizen journalism" spiel, but it's just a big social media site. These Twitter devs have plenty of options elsewhere in the industry where they won't be treated like garbage.
StreetsofBeige
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Elon isnt lying. That Eric F guy on Twitter does seemed canned. His Linkedin pic says the big "Open to Work" banner on his profile. You only see that from people with no job. LOL.
Maiden Voyage
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Quit via text is out. Fired via Twitter is in.
StormCell
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But on the other hand, how would someone from any other department handle hearing a boss with little/no domain knowledge publicly speak to something that is technically outrageously false? And that's just on the assumption that what Elon tweeted wasn't 100% technically accurate. Either way Musk was throwing the app development team under the bus in public. I don't know what role that developer had (was he maybe development manager?) but I would expect my manager to deal with that action on the nose even if it is CEO Musk getting reamed within earshot of me.
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Imagine starting Tesla and SpaceX and turning into a real life Walter Peck…
Maiden Voyage
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AMP: Robots Make a Hell of a Friend (And a Pretty Good Soldier)
AMP is a pretty engaging sci-fi short written and directed by Adam Marisett for Triton Films. It's set in a world where giant robots can be your best
gizmodo.com
The Elon Musk-owned aerospace company reportedly purchased at least $250,000 in advertisements from the Elon Musk-owned social media platform.
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StreetsofBeige
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Doesn't matter.
The boss calls the shots. Even if a boss says something wrong (accidental or a lie), you let him (or her) be.
There's times my boss in a big presentation announces wrong info or got the context wrong. There's times he's fluffing the info, there's times he is trying BS his way to an answer hoping everyone believes him. There's times the numbers are right, but he got the context wrong by mistake. You dont jump in and say he's wrong in front of other VPs. Its one of those things you just got to zip it. After the meeting, you tell him the real info is XYZ, and let him handle it.
It's one of those things you learn in life. Upstaging senior people up the ranks is a CLM (career limiting move). And I'm only talking about it from an internal perspective where sometimes it might not be so bad of everyone knows each other well and it's not a serious meeting. But upstaging a boss publicly on social media is on a whole other level I'm never seen at work ever.
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Daytonabot
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Which misinformation? You mean like it preventing infection?
StreetsofBeige
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I skimmed the long article.
All the whining about entitlement is a non-issue. If you're fired you're fired. Doesn't matter if someone is pregnant (like the article says). Nobody has ever said pregnant women are guaranteed job security.
As for the sloppy firing, hiring back, and managers being asked to transition fast to other roles or managing more people it seems like a mess. But I think Musk did that as his way to cut the cord fast without taking 4 months to assess the situation. Twitter kinds of employees have a hate boner for Musk already, so the risk of sabotage is high. No doubt his decision was to gas them fast, and hire back trustworthy employees based on the remaining managers. That'll show managers he kept them as they are trustworthy, and trust them to pick back the right people to come back.
Most companies dont do it this way. Instead they take months to go over employee count, analyze the situation, and get into big round table discussions for months with all managers and directors who to keep and who to fire. And it becomes an arguing match as every manager wants to keep their own staff and not give any up.
The way it works in big companies is the head honcho says we need to cut XXX number or % of people. It can be as simple as the company's SG&A costs are 15% of sales and trending up lately. Lets get it back down to 13% like usual. 2% people costs is $1M. The average employee makes $100k in total comp. So, we need to fire about 10 people. He can also do a high level firing at a division/department level, but it's up to every manager involved to fight and convince everyone else who to keep or not. It can go on for ages before a final tally and people chosen are fired.
I think Musk said fuck it. Fire first, hire back any employees needed later.
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You're working your way back from the assumption that he knows what he's doing in this scenario, that the decisions are sound and carefully orchestrated, if unconventional.
Maybe it will work out, and maybe it won't. But these are not the actions of a competent leader.
StreetsofBeige
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Totally. It's my guess what is happening.
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We're predisposed to believe that something happens because it's intended to happen or part of some larger plan. Life experience teaches us that this is almost never the case when it's done quickly or rashly. The more I interact with C suite people, the more I realize they're all just figuring it out too. Ideally, they've got many decades of practice figuring it out in the specific area they're over so their expertise can be relied on, making them reliable even if still fallible. If that experience isn't there and substituted with hubris, the results are usually pretty similar to Exhibit: Elon here.
If I got handed a large dysfunctional department to fix, the last thing I'd want to do is start knocking down walls without knowing which are load bearing or not.
Naïve to the max.
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Toons
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I mean didnt Fox straight up win in court on a technicality they are entertainment and not news. That should have settled this debate a long time ago about whether they are reliable or not.
Their massive record of pushing misinfo either out of incompetence, poor research, or ideological bias is also well, well established. Its completely within reason to remove them from sources of general issues that don't concern fox specifically in an article, and calling that censorship is hilarity
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Bitmap Frogs
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General fearmongering and talking how the vaccine is worse for your health than actually getting covid, etc.
The man is down a nasty rabbit hole, even retweeting qanon stuff and defending qanon on twitter.
Maiden Voyage
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Who is he trying to prevent a counter from?
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Wildebeest
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Musk wasn't a founder of Tesla or the inventor of the idea of the vacuum trains which have revolutionized modern life. He didn't invent the rocket, either.
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Ford didn't invent the automobile either. Jobs didn't invent the smart phone either but no doubt the iPhone was his baby and his lasting legacy. The problem was, with all his genius, he also thought he could cure pancreatic cancer by drinking enough carrot juice.
Musk's influence on Tesla and SpaceX can't be denied, but there's an old Klingon proverb: "stay in your lane."
LegendOfKage
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I've seen reporting about wikipedia removing factual statements long before COVID was a thing, and long before the word misinformation was comonplace. I'd get into examples, but it would violate the no politics rule.
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I honestly think there should be different badges. Brands that use Twitter for there marketing and advertising should be paying way more than 8$ month for a badge. Give journalists there own badge as well, maybe if they feel special they'll shut the fuck up stop acting like the sky falling after only a week has passed.
Amiga
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Why don't people just travel and talk to others directly. Or maybe read actual old shared reference books. Too many are sitting at home and speaking with authority.
MisterFalcon
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I'm sure Elon Musk will get honest answers from Twitter engineers when he asks them if he is right about something. Just like Putin.
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strange headache
Banned
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Quite the Y axis
Maiden Voyage
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StreetsofBeige
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DanteFox
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I think what people need to realize is that what Elon does so well is that he exemplifies the "fail fast" strategy. In the early and even in the mid-stage days of SpaceX, a lot of critics would point to all these rockets that he was blowing up and saying, "look at this buffoonish, silicon valley tycoon. Doesn't he realize that rocket science takes decades of development and billions of dollars, and that's why it should be left to government institutions like nasa?"
But nowadays EVERY company in the space industry is desperately trying to ape SpaceX and they can't get hardware out there fast enough to compete.
Yes, a lot of these early weeks and months will be filled with some moves that won't work out, but Elon's strength is that he's untethered by the hand- wringing, status-quo based approach, and he's willing to just try things and find out quickly what works and what doesn't, even as outsiders mock and ridicule him, and to steer a company based on that hard data. And the beauty of software is that you can iterate and try things much more quickly. No one is going to die if something doesn't work out, so comparisons to airplanes are not apt. In a few months/ a year, things will be in a radically different place.
bender
What time is it?
About that "starting Tesla" thing...yeah.
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It's a bit different when the rocket is in flight with passengers aboard, and fiddling with the knobs causes passengers to lose hundreds of millions due to the reckless nature of the fiddling, and others see that and want to bail out and stop paying for the rocket fuel…
Yeah I guess I didn't even know that part of the story
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