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Twitter Death Watch |OT| How long until the bird dies?

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Rentahamster

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DeepEnigma said:
If you don't share the same values or lessons, then it's hollow and a position holier than thou, more often than not in this hottake world.
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I can see how it might seem that way from the point of view of the criticized, but when we're truly committed to the marketplace of ideas, we need to have our philosophies and moral frameworks be able to stand up to scrutiny. Criticism can't only come from within. That's an insular methodology that supports groupthink, which is not good if it's supposed to be a philosophy/policy/ruleset that affects a wide swath of people including those who don't subscribe to it. I present to you that it is a necessary but uncomfortable tool that helps to point out flaws and weak points.

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Twitter has always been chaotic and a massive shitshow.
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Well, yes, but many hoped that Musk's involvement would ameliorate that somewhat. I'm still optimistic while enjoying the transitional chaos as an exercise in emergent comedy.
 
DeepEnigma

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Rentahamster said:
I can see how it might seem that way from the point of view of the criticized, but when we're truly committed to the marketplace of ideas, we need to have our philosophies and moral frameworks be able to stand up to scrutiny. Criticism can't only come from within. That's an insular methodology that supports groupthink, which is not good if it's supposed to be a philosophy/policy/ruleset that affects a wide swath of people including those who don't subscribe to it. I present to you that it is a necessary but uncomfortable tool that helps to point out flaws and weak points.
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While true, you also have to consider the motives and faith of the sources more often than not. Especially when ones are mired in tribal "group think" ideology.

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Well, yes, but many hoped that Musk's involvement would ameliorate that somewhat. I'm still optimistic while enjoying the transitional chaos as an exercise in emergent comedy.
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Agreed.
 
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SJRB

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Sheesh.. Memes and jokes were pretty funny last week but it's steering into petty, childish behavior with comments like these.
 
nush

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Elons an edgelord with fuck you money, seems that many at Twitter haven't been keeping up with how he's worked for years. Come at him with bullshit and he'll be "Bye fuck you and your shit" and easily replace them.

Remember he had a PA at Tesla and she demanded more money so he told her to take some time off to see if he actually needed her at all. He didn't.
 
strange headache

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Musk must be doing something right if it sends the establishment media into an outright pogrom against him. He became public enemy number one for buying a f*cking social media website. The reactions to this merely prove how much influence that platform has on public opinion making. You are literally being conditioned to hate Musk now. Big Brother is telling you to seethe... don't!







Elon taking no prisoners is just a joy to behold :messenger_tears_of_joy: Firing these militant bumholes is the only way forward if he wants to keep a tight ship. Why should he keep people at the company who are obviously working against him? This isn't a free speech issue at all, getting rid of internal saboteurs is necessary to make the right reforms.

If only Jack Dorsey would have had the balls to do the same, we might not be in this mess.
 
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akimbo009 said:
Low hours? Got any source?

As someone in this industry I am totally baffled at the comments here - I mean, I'm not exactly since people rather hate than think, but it's basically "lazy devs" in the Gaming forum but doesn't stop the hero worship.

Anyway, tech folks are like any other group, generally hard working and proud of their work and want to be treated that their work has value. They also know they bring a ton of value to solving many companies problems, and are smart enough to know their value. Which matches what everyone should expect - getting paid a fair wage for their services that matches the value they bring.
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There’s plenty of “a day in the life” videos out there. And do you work for Twitter too?
 
Toons

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strange headache said:
Musk must be doing something right if it sends the establishment media into an outright pogrom against him. He became public enemy number one for buying a f*cking social media website. The reactions to this merely prove how much influence that platform has on public opinion making. You are literally being conditioned to hate Musk now. Big Brother is telling you to seethe... don't!







Elon taking no prisoners is just a joy to behold :messenger_tears_of_joy: Firing these militant bumholes is the only way forward if he wants to keep a tight ship. Why should he keep people at the company who are obviously working against him? This isn't a free speech issue at all, getting rid of internal saboteurs is necessary to make the right reforms.

If only Jack Dorsey would have had the balls to do the same, we might not be in this mess.
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Lmfao the self delusion

He US the militant bumhole my guy. Thats been very clear.

He also doesn't give af about running a tight ship; given he's straight up ignored the input from his folks that are supposed to be helping him maintain the infrastructure and functionality of this thing.

He doesn't know what he's doing.
 
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strange headache

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Toons said:
Lmfao the self delusion

He US the militant bumhole my guy. Thats been very clear.

He also doesn't give af about running a tight ship; given he's straight up ignored the input from his folks that are supposed to be helping him maintain the infrastructure and functionality of this thing.

He doesn't know what he's doing.
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Case in point.
 
akimbo009

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FireFistAce said:
There’s plenty of “a day in the life” videos out there. And do you work for Twitter too?
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Links or it didn't happen. Stop making shit up if you can't even back it up. Tales from your ass ain't receipts.

And no, I don't work at Twitter, cause fuck Twitter. But I do work at one of "those" companies so until you can actually come up with anything except a stream of bullshit about things you clearly know nothing about except lies that re-enforce your dellusion I'd just stop talking.
 
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Either adapt your attitude in this thread or be removed from it.
akimbo009 said:
Links or it didn't happen. Stop making shit up if you can't even back it up. Tales from your ass ain't receipts.

And no, I don't work at Twitter, cause fuck Twitter. But I do work at one of "those" companies so until you can actually come up with anything except a stream of bullshit about things you clearly know nothing about except lies that re-enforce your dellusion I'd just stop talking.
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There was a video posted in this thread actually. Feel free to go back and look for it. Also how hard is it to google? Lazy dev indeed.
 
akimbo009

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FireFistAce said:
There was a video posted in this thread actually. Feel free to go back and look for it. Also how hard is it to google? Lazy dev indeed.
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Nice deflect. At least say you have no personal understanding nor any receipts. It's pretty easy to admit when you're wrong instead of doubling down on it.

Anyway, I thought this response thread captured things pretty well and why Elon's approach here is pretty embarrassing..

 
NecrosaroIII

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akimbo009 said:
Nice deflect. At least say you have no personal understanding nor any receipts. It's pretty easy to admit when you're wrong instead of doubling down on it.

Anyway, I thought this response thread captured things pretty well and why Elon's approach here is pretty embarrassing..

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I have mixed feelings. Personally I wouldn't feel comfortable insulting my CEO / leadership team on company communication software (Slack). Save that for private texts.

But I also don't think Elon should be airing out personnel movements publically either. It should be handled privately. Since when did we as a society feel the need to air our dirty laundry publically
 
Toons

Toons

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akimbo009 said:
Nice deflect. At least say you have no personal understanding nor any receipts. It's pretty easy to admit when you're wrong instead of doubling down on it.

Anyway, I thought this response thread captured things pretty well and why Elon's approach here is pretty embarrassing..

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Hes right of course.

When did Elon accumulate all these fanboys who kiss the ground he walks on? It didn't use to be that way far as i remember
 
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jdtemp

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akimbo009 said:
ice deflect. At least say you have no personal understanding nor any receipts. It's pretty easy to admit when you're wrong instead of doubling down on it.

Anyway, I thought this response thread captured things pretty well and why Elon's approach here is pretty embarrassing..

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Dude complaining about Twitter can't help writing 22 tweets in a single sitting. Yeah, Twitter's going to be just fine.
 
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Tams

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dorkimoe said:
I know people hate twitter, but i am a fan of it for sports news, tech news etc. I dont follow celebs or care about political stuff. I have to say..watching him fail and his $8 idea come crashing down is hilarious. This happens at my work too, someone new comes in and completely disregards all the work and research that was already put into place and thinks there idea is going to work. We literally had blue checks on accounts for a reason and he completely disregarded it
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Elon's an idiot.

But Twitter has been losing a lot of money. In fact, I don't think it's ever turned a profit. There were already plans to make Twitter Blue a bigger thing.
 
LegendOfKage

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Tams said:
Elon's an idiot.

But Twitter has been losing a lot of money. In fact, I don't think it's ever turned a profit. There were already plans to make Twitter Blue a bigger thing.
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There were also plans to layoff 25% of the employees, but Musk increased it to 50%. Although with the rehires and the recent twitter firings, who knows the true amount now. There were also already plans to start the program then known as birdwatch, and now known as community notes.

And I think twitter did turn a profit for a couple of years, but they were not at all recent.
 
NeoLed

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akimbo009 said:
Links or it didn't happen. Stop making shit up if you can't even back it up. Tales from your ass ain't receipts.

And no, I don't work at Twitter, cause fuck Twitter. But I do work at one of "those" companies so until you can actually come up with anything except a stream of bullshit about things you clearly know nothing about except lies that re-enforce your dellusion I'd just stop talking.
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Who cares about your life story - honestly.
 
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jdtemp

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Tams said:
Elon's an idiot.

But Twitter has been losing a lot of money. In fact, I don't think it's ever turned a profit. There were already plans to make Twitter Blue a bigger thing.
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Some people have let there (very obvious) hatred of Musk cloud there judgement. The guy has been in charge for a little over a week a there acting like Twitter is basically at chapter 11 lol.
 
Toons

Toons

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jdtemp said:
Some people have let there (very obvious) hatred of Musk cloud there judgement. The guy has been in charge for a little over a week a there acting like Twitter is basically at chapter 11 lol.
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If any other person bought out a major company, fired a ton of workers with fewer qualified to replace them, then ignore the people he did hire, leading to rollout and rollbacks if various damage control program attempts and buggy system adjustments that have only served to deteriorate an already faulty system as well as the user base, which in turn has had ripple effects for journalism, economical effects and general user engagement, has failed to deliver on even one of the promises he made before the buyout(all the banned accounts people were begging to he restored are still banned) and to add onto this can most often be seen engaging in internet slapfights with randoms as well as his own employees, and saying bankruptcy is on the table, no one here would be denying its a disaster of a restructuring. But for some reason, since its Elon, we're supposed to have faith hes got it all under control lol
 
Nobody_Important

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“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
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If that is true then that is without a doubt the dumbest decision he has made so far.

Anyone at Twitter is is talented enough to be able find a job quickly someplace else is going happily take that severence and walk away from what is quickly becoming a toxic work environment. Especially if they are openly advertising long hours and a full rebuild. Meanwhile those who may not be as talented enough to be able to easily line up another job in the industry will be the ones staying.


So you are basically paying your best people to leave and making sure that "Twitter 2.0" is going to be rebuilt by whoever is left after the exodus. Good job genius lol
 
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SJRB

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Nobody_Important said:
If that is true then that is without a doubt the dumbest decision he has made so far.

Anyone at Twitter is is talented enough to be able find a job quickly someplace else is going happily take that severence and walk away from what is quickly becoming a toxic work environment. Especially if they are openly advertising long hours and a full rebuild. Meanwhile those who may not be as talented enough to be able to easily line up another job in the industry will be the ones staying.


So you are basically paying your best people to leave and making sure that "Twitter 2.0" is going to be rebuilt by whoever is left after the exodus. Good job genius lol
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Surely the appeal of working at an "elite" hardcore engineering team at Twitter appeals to many. Taking Twitter back to basics and making it about engineering instead of.. whatever the fuck they were doing is a good thing for actual engineers.

Also, they are upfront about long hours and high intensity working conditions which could be fine for a lot of people, provided the pay is equally hardcore. If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys, after all.

I think the whole "we are restructuring and it's going to be brutal: are you in or out?" with a pretty decent severance package is a pretty solid way of doing things. Infinitely better than mailing people "congrats, you're fired" at least.
 
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Nobody_Important

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“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
SJRB said:
Surely the appeal of working at an "elite" hardcore engineering team at Twitter appeals to many. Taking Twitter back to basics and making it about engineering instead of.. whatever the fuck they were doing is a good thing for actual engineers.

Also, they are upfront about long hours and high intensity working conditions which could be fine for a lot of people, provided the pay is equally hardcore. If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys, after all.

I think the whole "we are restructuring and it's going to be brutal: are you in or out?" with a pretty decent severance package is a pretty solid way of doing things. Infinitely better than mailing people "congrats, you're fired" at least.
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Even if you choose to look at it that way most people would be crazy not to take the money and run. Twitter has been in the middle of mass layoffs and random firings since Musk got there. If the report is accurate they are offering you money to leave and they don't offer any protections if you stay. So you're basically just gambling that your job or your expertise will be needed in the rebuild and that you won't be let go a month from now.


They will bleed talent because of this. No matter how you slice it that is just not a smart business decision. Especially if the goal is to rebuild the whole thing.
 
Nobody_Important

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“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
DeepEnigma said:
Once again you display, that no matter what Elon does... your ideological lines have already been drawn in the sand. Whether you understand what any of it meant, or not.
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I would be calling this dumb no matter who it came from. You don't offer your employees 3 months of pay if they leave while promising longer hours and harder work if they stay. Especially if you are in the middle of a mass layoff already.

It's good for the workers obviously because they can just take the money and run, but for a company that's apparently about to undergo a complete rebuild? That's just a really dumb way to lose a lot of talented people.
 
StreetsofBeige

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Whether you love or hate Musk, you got to remember one thing. Twitter has been around for about 15 years and still loses money annually sometimes. Unlike other sites like FB/Meta who make something like $20 billion profit per year, Twitter is hit and miss either making a bit or losing a bit of money.

For such a giant social media site, you'd think they'd be raking in the cash by now.

Whether Musk's mass firing and $8 blue tags works or not for making a leaner and more profitable company, who knows. It's too early to tell. But he's trying something different in his usual in your face way.
 
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