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[elfinke]

Everything else aside, this is just such a gloriously framed photo and I'm so so glad someone had the forethought and presence of mind to be snapping and also the vantage point to make it all come together. I hope the person behind the lens is given massive kudos in among all the thigh slapping hilarity the moment is giving us.

A thousand words, indeed.

 

[zashga]

Huh. That's surprisingly blatant.

As someone who's voted Republican in the past, I hope to God they lose big this year. This stuff is getting too scary to be funny anymore.

 

[Nozem]

I can't believe this is not a photoshop. Incredible picture.

I still think it's a wave gone wrong though.

 

[the_batman]

I can't believe this is not a photoshop. Incredible picture.

I still think it's a wave gone wrong though.

Did you see the video? It's very obviously intentional.

 

[AniHawk]

plagiarism, non-endorsement from the biggest internal competition, and a sieg heil

all in all, one of the better republican gatherings.

 

[Burt]

I can't believe this is not a photoshop. Incredible picture.

I still think it's a wave gone wrong though.

The picture itself highlights how it isn't a wave gone wrong. I mean, Trump is waving. If people were just running a smear campaign, they'd be on him too, but that's just a picture of him at the top of a wave. She's not, though. I know it sounds nitpicky to say that her wrist isn't bent and she extended her arm wrong and the angle is too low, but that just isn't how people wave, ever. She clearly wasn't even looking at someone for some sort of call out.

There are probably tens of thousands of hours of speeches with people waving afterwards on YouTube. I would love to see one that looks like that. I'm not being sarcastic either. I would legitimately feel better if I could honestly believe that people weren't throwing nazi salutes up at the national convention for one of the two parties in this country.

 

[Randolph Freelander]

I give it a 95% chance it was intentional. That was locked in and held for too long for it to be an accidental gesture.

Whether she was doing it to be provocative or if she actually has some Nazi sympathies, I cannot say. But, to me, it certainly looks like she meant to do it.

 

[Joe]

How in the hell is that not a Nazi salute??

 

[Siegcram]

How in the hell is that not a Nazi salute??

Right? It's a picture perfect example.

No idea what people seeing this as a misshapen wave are on.

 

[web01]

It is obviously an awkward wave / point.
Anyone thinking it was deliberate is just delusional or just wont admit it due to their political leanings.

Type Obama / Hilary / (insert name) nazi salute in google images and see just how many images you find.
The answer is tons.

 

[sam777]

Clearly a Nazi salute, then she realises she messed up and tried to play it cool in the moat awkward way posaible lol.

 

[Sciz]

Yeah I stick my arm and hand straight out and try to invert my face when I start waving to people too, happens all the time


please

Not a bit of that body language is natural.

That said, throwing the old sieg heil feels in character for a convention dedicated to a man who doesn't give a fuck about the party's optics and is only in it to raise his own profile, so I'll let it slide.

 

[GiantEnemyGoomba]

It's VERY hard to believe it wasn't intentional. I'm thinking she did it to just get publicity so she can go on some rant we've heard a million times about the liberal media.

 

[Matty77]

Yeah I stick my arm and hand straight out and try to invert my face when I start waving to people too, happens all the time


please

Not a bit of that body language is natural.

The only thing that could have made it more obvious is if she goose stepped off the stage.

 

[nuttyevans]

What, did she Nazi the cameras on her?

Bravo

 

[Spyder_Monkey]

She did because the republicans are the party of Nazis.

 

[johnsmith]

She did because the republicans are the party of Nazis.

Don't be stupid, be a smarty. Come and join the Republican Party.

 

[Siegcram]

It is obviously an awkward wave / point.
Anyone thinking it was deliberate is just delusional or just wont admit it due to their political leanings.

Type Obama / Hilary / (insert name) nazi salute in google images and see just how many images you find.
The answer is tons.

I too point with my whole hand at a 45 degree angle.

This is damning since we have the whole motion, not an awkward snapshot. If you can't see the difference, it's you who is delusional.

 

[newtypepilot]

yeah that's totally not a nazi salute

she's just stretching her arm being waving to the crowd. Yeah that's it, just harmless stretching

 

[Funky Papa]

You know shit is fucked up when Stormfront is divided on it.

 

[davepoobond]

I can walk!!!

 

[LyleLanley]

I have never been more certain of anything in my entire life, that is an obvious Nazi salute and this Laura Ingraham fellow is clearly a neo-nazi.

 

[DrSlek]

She's just saluting the next Consul of Rome, you guys! C'mon!

 

[Dynamite Shikoku]

That's no wave

 

[nelchaar]

There's no way 1) that is not a Nazi salute 2) that was not intentional

 

[Tranqueris]

It's VERY hard to believe it wasn't intentional. I'm thinking she did it to just get publicity so she can go on some rant we've heard a million times about the liberal media.

A wink to Trump's supporters and she gets publicity and gets to talk about political correctness gone crazy while people tweet in support of her with the hashtag whitegenocide.

 

[Funky Papa]

There's no way 1) that is not a Nazi salute 2) that was not intentional

It was either:

a) "Oh shit this looks bad quick wave a little oh my god I'm so fucked goddamn smile smile now"
b) A calculated and highly hypocritical stunt to the tune of Vienna's highly famed dog whistle orchestra

 

[spekkeh]

I too point with my whole hand at a 45 degree angle.

This is damning since we have the whole motion, not an awkward snapshot. If you can't see the difference, it's you who is delusional.

Actually the whole motion should be from the left breast to somewhere to the right of the head. In her defense. Not sure why I'm defending her. But it's not a complete sieg heil.

Edit:

It was either:

a) "Oh shit this looks bad quick wave a little oh my god I'm so fucked goddamn"
b) A calculated and highly hypocritical stunt to the tune of Viena's highly famed dog whistle orchestra

Yes this was my appraisal too.

 

[Joe]

It is obviously an awkward wave / point.
Anyone thinking it was deliberate is just delusional or just wont admit it due to their political leanings.

Type Obama / Hilary / (insert name) nazi salute in google images and see just how many images you find.
The answer is tons.

You don't think a Nazi salute at a convention for the first modern presidential candidate to be endorsed by a white nationalist group is possible?

The same candidate who reluctantly and half-heartedly disavowed an endorsement from David Duke?

The same candidate that named a prominent white nationalist as a delegate?

The same candidate who has been dog-whistling rqcism, anti-Semitism, and early 20th century white nationalist slogans and imagery for a year?

The same candidate who had a father that was most likely a KKK sympathiser?

No, there's no way that could happen.

None.

 

[PuppetSlave]

Oh wow, that photo, merica again... You can't make this shit up. The is world is turning into this crazy hollywood movie but it's not really funny.

You can see the concentration in her body language, that was rehearsed in front of mirrors. Hell, she could not mask her face of concentration, calculated as hell but not that smoothly executed. plausible goddamn deniability, don't know why she bothered though, facts and stuff don't seem that important nowadays

 

[Ghostmaster]

It was either:

a) "Oh shit this looks bad quick wave a little oh my god I'm so fucked goddamn smile smile now"
b) A calculated and highly hypocritical stunt to the tune of Viena's highly famed dog whistle orchestra

I'm almost certain it's b, mostly because of the timing.

It is just long enough that you can't mistake it, but short enough that you can't outright say it. It is truly well executed.

If it was a mistake, it would probably last longer or she would jerk her hand a lot more if she quickly realized the mistake.

And she can easily make an excuse, because just like the previous poster mentioned that isn't the full sieg heil salute.

 

[Keasar]

"Go to Auschwitz."

She probably did because that is basically Trump supporters in a nutshell.

 

[Gattsu25]

Yeah, that's exactly what this looks like.

Also, maybe I'm looking into it too much but that looks like intense focus during the sieg heil and perfect execution.

 

[eyeball_kid]

It was either:

a) "Oh shit this looks bad quick wave a little oh my god I'm so fucked goddamn smile smile now"
b) A calculated and highly hypocritical stunt to the tune of Viena's highly famed dog whistle orchestra

I don't buy option A at all. I don't see any micro-expression of "oh shit" on her face, or an awkward pause as she fumbles into a wave; it's a completely smooth transition from "Nazis, hell yeah!" to pageant wave.

 

[pigeon]

It was either:

a) "Oh shit this looks bad quick wave a little oh my god I'm so fucked goddamn smile smile now"
b) A calculated and highly hypocritical stunt to the tune of Viena's highly famed dog whistle orchestra

I think it's gotta be the second one.

I can't create a mental model where there's even a remote chance that she gave a Nazi salute BY ACCIDENT. That is just not a thing.

On the other hand, it's perfectly staged to get people on Internet message boards to argue for pages about whether it was an intentional Nazi salute and if so why.

 

[Monocle]

Can someone produce video evidence of a different "wave" that resembles a Nazi salute but definitely isn't? Because as far as I know, people typically don't just accidently lock their elbow and hold it in place for a second at a public event. Unless they're attending a rather exclusive sort of rally.

 

[barit]

Pfft I've seen better Hitler salutes *cough*

But was it on purpose? I somehow doubt it

 

[Intheflorsh]

Was she actually facing Trump's direction when she hiel'd? If so, uh...

 

[spekkeh]

Looking at it some more, now also on a big screen monitor. Er, yeah, I'm going with intentional after all. Unless the gif has been edited to introduce a slight pause. It's that sudden change of facial expression when she does it. What the hell.

I'm both dismayed and want to introduce the meme Sieg HiYall at the same time.

 

[Nostremitus]

Hail Hydra...

 

[Siegcram]

Actually the whole motion should be from the left breast to somewhere to the right of the head. In her defense. Not sure why I'm defending her. But it's not a complete sieg heil.

That's actually not part of the salute. Not that it really matters anyway.

 

[msdstc]

Wow a bunch of people reading WAY too much into things.

 

[IconGrist]

Wow a bunch of people reading WAY too much into things.

This is the one and only time someone's tag + post made me burst out laughing.

 

[AllGamer]

It looks intentional. No idea if it really was, though.

 

[Kenzodielocke]

She fucked up and tried to recover as quickly as she could, but failed. Fucking hell.

 

[ClosingADoor]

The face she makes. The little pause before waving. If that isn't intentional, I don't know what is.

 

[Candescence]

Yeah, she did pretty much make an intentional salute briefly, it's fairly obvious.

Just a reminder that the right-wing was really into Nazism back in the day before Hitler started actually waging war, America actually started fighting them, and the Holocaust was revealed. Charlie Chaplin was pretty much hounded constantly even after the war because he dared to criticise the Nazis, amongst his other left-wing views and his refusal to participate in the McCarthyism communist witch-hunts.

 

[daxy]

If she's not royalty there's no reason for her to be waving with her fingers clenched! First thing you do when you rise your hand for a wave is spread your fingers. Unless she's a robot? Hmmm...

Wouldn't be surprised if this was intentional. If not, still hilarious.

 

[Blablurn]

plagiarism, non-endorsement from the biggest internal competition, and a sieg heil

all in all, one of the better republican gatherings.

lol

 

[Apt101]

You don't think a Nazi salute at a convention for the first modern presidential candidate to be endorsed by a white nationalist group is possible?

The same candidate who reluctantly and half-heartedly disavowed an endorsement from David Duke?

The same candidate that named a prominent white nationalist as a delegate?

The same candidate who has been dog-whistling rqcism, anti-Semitism, and early 20th century white nationalist slogans and imagery for a year?

The same candidate who had a father that was most likely a KKK sympathiser?

No, there's no way that could happen.

None.

I remember that. That woman was born in Germany in the 40's and moved to the US later. She was mocking a few protesters who she said was rude to her and her husband, because they were holding a sign that compared Hitler to Trump - and she was angry because she didn't think the comparison was fair, and that they didn't understand exactly what Hitler was really about. She has a point there, Trump might have a streak of fascism in his rhetoric and is clearly racist, but he's no Hitler.

I'm suspicious of anyone willing to support Trump after what he's said publicly, but in this case a flustered little old lady made a poor decision and someone happened to snap a photo at the perfect moment.