Maybe this is why some of the GOP presidential clown car want that.
U.S. citizen seeks refugee status in Canada due to fear of police racism
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Maybe this is why some of the GOP presidential clown car want that.
Wait, wut... I thought there were like 40 some million black people in the US. 8 million seems to low. Are you making up facts!?
You Are Viewtiful
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It's not the list that's unconstitutional, I believe it's the health care the refugee claimants were given that was unconstitutional.
The thing about the new system is that if he loses his case, he won't be able to appeal his decision. That inherently makes it less likely he'll get in. Although I agree he didn't have much of a chance in the first place.
callhitman
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He does have a good reason.
*googles*
"Those who identified only as African American made up 13.2% of the U.S. population-over 41.7 million people. "
jchap
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Whoops my google fu is slipping. Guess its 5 times more rare than my estimate.
You Are Viewtiful
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Hot damn, that's the first I'm hearing of this. I love our Courts!
30 years for that? She murdered him or something?
User 73706
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"I'm a progressive and all, but what about black on black crime?"
It is exactly why they accepted her. 30 years for statutory rape is pretty insane, it is close to sentences if not more so that involve the loss of life. Hers also makes more sense, since U.S's sentencing is pretty harsh wherever you go in this country. It isn't like one state is doing it or it being isolated, so it made sense for Canada to accept it.
U.S is very crazy with it's sentencing, especially for crimes where the person committing it is not too far gone for rehabilitation.
As much as rape for example is disgusting, it shouldn't (in my view) hold the same punishment as murder.
EDIT: To add to the topic, I was going to say, the guy is being dramatic. U.S do not have the issues in such abundance and state sanctioned so heavily, that asylum is needed really. After reading through it, I do see that he seems to be the subject of police bullying and picking. Jaywalking? Unless it caused an accident or the cop seen him doing it multiple times, I would not expect anyone to be charged for it. Everything he is charged with sounds like they are throwing everything they can at him and hoping (succeeding) it stick.
The guy is also not unable to move out of the city/state altogether if he is having issues there for a fresh start. I don't know how I feel about this to be honest. Unless he becomes very popular, I do not see Canada accepting his request for asylum. Those are usually reserved for state sanctioned wrong doing on a significant level, far beyond what U.S is experiencing right now.
No one is saying it isn't bad. The point everyone who is saying that, is saying that U.S's issue isn't so bad that people need to apply for asylum. If this guy didn't build any case, I would pretty much disagreed with him getting asylum outright to be honest.
Also if Blacks, young people, and Hispanics vote like they did during Obama's first run for Presidency, we could get a lot of progress. I blame those who don't vote for our country being so stagnant.
Sounds like civil disobedience. He's probably annoying but he has a point and those are all very minor.
Those are more likely thrown on charges for the sake of thrown on charges, than him being annoying. Cops love getting people doing minor offenses like speeding, tail-light not working, jaywalking, loitering, etc. so they can "investigate" and hopefully stick some other charge on you like possessing drugs.
Dreams-Visions
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What is the citizenship process for Americans that want to become Canadians the normal way? Rough time table?
You Are Viewtiful
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5 years of permanent residency for naturalization I believe. Refugees don't get citizenship, I might be wrong about that one though. I've met plenty of Afghan refugees and none were citizens except the ones who were born here.
andthebeatgoeson
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Arizona professor, I think.
M1ch04c4n0
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Careful with that, that got us flagged and now ee need visas to get into Canada.
And our current government has strict orders to keep things shitty. It took them 8 years and a few millions dollars to get the country into the sorry state it is now. So, things would not change any time soon.
And our current government has strict orders to keep things shitty. It took them 8 years and a few millions dollars to get the country into the sorry state it is now. So, things would not change any time soon.
Christopher
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So he did none of those things?
Voting is pretty much a waste of time.
You Are Viewtiful
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Congress maybe, but not Senate. You waste more time by not voting.
Untrue, it is not a waste of time. The only one that is a "waste of time" is the House of Representatives due to Gerrymandering. Senate is void of that issue, it most certainly isn't a waste of time.
How do you think the Democrats gained both House and Senate in 2008? Sure as heck wasn't because "voting is pretty much a waste of time". I hope you vote despite what you think. As I said, not voting is what is allowing Republicans in power in significant numbers.
I know so many Blacks (including my parents) who never voted in their life until Barack Obama ran. I also know so many young people at my age that only voted due to running. We can not get the change we need if we keep allowing Republicans to gain the House and allowing them to have a sizable force in the Senate.
It kind of proves his point actually. I jaywalk all the time. No outstanding warrants here.
Nice! I didn't know about that.
Beautiful. I thought that this was still in. I hope they expedite the applications of the Roma people that Harper chased out of the country.
Christopher
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So does everyone else in the world...the only time I've seen jay walking tickets issued when literally the person walks right into traffic not giving a fuck almost causing an accident
Even then, you don't get in trouble for that in Winnipeg. It's very common too. Teenagers or drugged out people downtown not giving a single crap.
Christopher
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Yeah again it's not a common occurance at all I've rarely seen it only maybe once. To me it was amazing everyone always assumes the car will stop
He's not Aboriginal so he should be fine. Not that he'll be accepted. It would be a big F U to the U.S.
TapeDispenser1000
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If Canada wouldn't except Iraq war deserters I doubt this guy stands a chance.
LookAtMeGo
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Trudeau though.
John Kowalski
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#walkingwhilejay
fluffydelusions
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Didn't that one black kid get beat up by that cop for trying to jaywalk or something?
vas_a_morir
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Canada, too, locks up and harasses black people at an incredibly disproportionate rate. He should aim higher if he wants to escape systematic racism, it seems. Although Canadian cops don't have guns, so that's a plus. But, the stats are pretty horrible.
Mr. Giggles
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This.
Canada has its share of racism issues, the just finished election campaign did a great job of highlighting this
I'm pretty sure it's meant to be a statement.
theignoramus
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Only a matter of time before a university funds a comprehensive study on racial profiling using modern day equipment, like cell phone cameras and such, to provide authoritative video documentation of the frequency of interaction between police and a statistically significant, age-wide spectrum of African American males across the country.
I definitely appreciate Chris Rock using social media to document each time he is pulled over in his vehicle and interrogated by police while doing nothing suspicious or alarming.
I dont cosign the more heavier words like "genocide" or "extinguish" or "mass murder" but everyday harassment of innocent blacks by police is absolutely a social issue the US needs to confront in an earnest manner.
I definitely appreciate Chris Rock using social media to document each time he is pulled over in his vehicle and interrogated by police while doing nothing suspicious or alarming.
I dont cosign the more heavier words like "genocide" or "extinguish" or "mass murder" but everyday harassment of innocent blacks by police is absolutely a social issue the US needs to confront in an earnest manner.
Wuthering_Heights
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Of course not. He's probably a model citizen.
Stop putting words into my mouth.
Subpar Spatula
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I get his reasoning but if it was me I'd deny him refugee status for now. I don't doubt his hardships but Canada only takes in around 25k a year and most are from countries much worse than than the USA:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/canada-refugees-1.3239460
While it sucks for him I say give his position to someone more in need of it.
Canadian cops have guns.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/canada-refugees-1.3239460
While it sucks for him I say give his position to someone more in need of it.
Canadian cops have guns.
It's still an improvement
For some reason I try to read the new posts in this thread but they don't show up.
Edit: there they are. What a weird lag.
How would you compare what you've had to deal with in Canada to racism in America?
Edit: there they are. What a weird lag.
How would you compare what you've had to deal with in Canada to racism in America?
theignoramus
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Id be curious what the stats are like for black people if you took southern Ontario out of the equation and looked at the rest of the country. Here in western Canada, cops consider Natives the de facto "suspects" and "troublemakers".
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