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UFC 124 |OT| Thread of motorboating GSP's ass
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sooperkool
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Blackface said:
This is a lot of stupidity. No one is saying you take wild shots. you do a hell of a lot more than what we saw. Jesus, do you hear your self? Its like you think that the only way to finish a fight is to "rush" in and get wild or wait until someone is wobbling...
polyh3dron
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there you go again.BamYouHaveAids said:
UFC != MMA
Vovchanchyn was a fighter in PRIDE.
dream
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Blackface said:Saying GSP didn't land combo's is like saying Vince Carter never dunked. He was landing combo's all fucking night long from round one. Kicks, jabs, hooks, corsses, etc.. Did he jab alot? Of course and guess what
Yup, 25 minutes is a lot of time to land one or two punches at a time.
Won him a lot of points too.
Unidentified
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I have never heard of a modern-day pound for pound ranking that ignores accomplishments in multiple divisions. There is a reason why Pacquiao is regarded as a better fighter than Marquez despite their fights.Blackface said:
And to say GSP doesn't cut a ton of weight is simply false. For the Hardy fight, he was around 190 or so. I think he planned to go up to 195 and cut from there. He typically hovers around 185-190 if you pay attention to any of his interviews. His fight night weight is also up there. Compare it to Marquardt, a middleweight, who only cuts from 195. That isn't to say that GSP is the largest fighter in the divison, but he definitely is up there.
The Anderson comment is also probably factually incorrect. I recall an interview around the Chael Sonnen fight mentioning that he slims down to 205 over the course of a training camp. Chael Sonnen and Mark Munoz both re-hydrate up to 207 by fight night. The "220" or so figure that is thrown around was his walk-around weight after an injury. You'll find other Middleweights who let themselves go walk around that weight.
There's really nobody that can challenge GSP in his weight class.
In fact, nobody can beat him in either Lightweight or Middleweight.
Even if they put Silva up against him, I think if GSP is smart and takes him down, he'd win that fight too. At this point, Dana has milked the GSP cow enough to give fans what everyone wants to see: Anderson Silva vs. GSP. It should be an Open Weight, non-title fight.
Good night of fights tonight. Overall, very entertaining, even if the cards didn't look all that appealing on paper. Wish all UFC events were nearly this good. One of the best UFC events we've had in a long time.
In fact, nobody can beat him in either Lightweight or Middleweight.
Even if they put Silva up against him, I think if GSP is smart and takes him down, he'd win that fight too. At this point, Dana has milked the GSP cow enough to give fans what everyone wants to see: Anderson Silva vs. GSP. It should be an Open Weight, non-title fight.
Good night of fights tonight. Overall, very entertaining, even if the cards didn't look all that appealing on paper. Wish all UFC events were nearly this good. One of the best UFC events we've had in a long time.
polyh3dron
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holy FUCK start the conference already!
BamYouHaveAids
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Pride? You mean the show than ran for a year on SPIKE? I never watched it but, the UFC should try to sign him since the show apparently got canceled, if he is as good as you guys are making him it to be he could be a contender.polyh3dron said:
polyh3dron
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The best one since UFC 123.Click said:
I'm looking so much more forward to 125 than I did 124. Just a ton of interesting fighters involved even though I don't really care for the ME other than to pray Maynard finally loses. The whole televised part is awesome save for the ME. I can honestly say I don't know wtf will happen in any of those fights but I'm really looking forward to them.yacobod said:
Lightweight Championship bout: Frankie Edgar (c) vs. Gray Maynard
Middleweight bout: Chris Leben vs. Brian Stann[1]
Light Heavyweight bout: Brandon Vera vs. Thiago Silva[1]
Welterweight bout: Nate Diaz vs. Dong Hyun Kim[1]
Lightweight bout: Clay Guida vs. Takanori Gomi[1]
[edit] Preliminary card
Lightweight bout: Marcus Davis vs. Jeremy Stephens[1]
Featherweight bout: Josh Grispi vs. Dustin Poirier[1]
Middleweight bout: Phil Baroni vs. Brad Tavares[1]
Featherweight bout: Mike Brown vs. Diego Nunes[1]
Welterweight bout: Daniel Roberts vs. Greg Soto[1]
Lightweight bout: Jacob Volkmann vs. Antonio McKee[1]
polyh3dron
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nah pride was a pretty cool guy, eh had a superior heavyweight division and didn't afraid of anything.BamYouHaveAids said:
WickedAngel
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This "OMG SHERDOG" nonsense comes up every time a popular fighter has a boring fight.
BigJonsson
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GSP!
Bocek!
I'm pretty happy with UFC 124, was more entertaining than I expected it to be!
Kos is going to have one fucked up face tomorrow
Bocek!
I'm pretty happy with UFC 124, was more entertaining than I expected it to be!
Kos is going to have one fucked up face tomorrow
RiccochetJ
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Actually all this talk about hydration on the forums and during the fight commentary is very interesting. How weight can a person lose and regain between the weigh in and the fight? I don't really understand the concept. I would think that there are some severe health issues involved with doing that.
dream
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Jesus 23,152 for a gate of $4.58M? Montreal loves their human cockfighting.
Fighters can drop and regain a lot by dropping water weight. I've heard stories of weight cuts as high as 30-40 lbs. To give you an idea of how bad it can be, the more extreme weight cutters get an IV after weighing in to replenish their fluids. It's hell on your kidneys, as you can imagine.
RiccochetJ said:
Fighters can drop and regain a lot by dropping water weight. I've heard stories of weight cuts as high as 30-40 lbs. To give you an idea of how bad it can be, the more extreme weight cutters get an IV after weighing in to replenish their fluids. It's hell on your kidneys, as you can imagine.
smurfx said:
Silva doesn't have nearly the amount of stamina and wrestling skills GSP has. He'll tire out by the 3rd or 4th round. All GSP has to do is chip away at him and avoid his strikes until he gets tired. Then go for the shoot and out-wrestle Silva. GnP Silva till he cries uncle.
TheKaeptain
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yacobod said:
Hardy is taller, has more of a reach advantage, and weighs in at 200 before cutting. So does conduit. Do they have more mass? Probably not.
Pristine_Condition
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BamYouHaveAids said:
He retired five years ago due to a chronic hand injury. The UFC would have loved to have had him in his prime, but the UFC was small time back then compared to Pride.
http://modules.ufc.com/live/
Dana: Fight of the night as voted by the fans, GSP Kos
Reporter: Is that a one time thing, the fans voting?
Dana: Yeah, they blew it.
:lol
Dana: Fight of the night as voted by the fans, GSP Kos
Reporter: Is that a one time thing, the fans voting?
Dana: Yeah, they blew it.
:lol
chip away how? it certainly won't be with striking. andersons reach and superior striking won't allow gsp to do to him what he did with koscheck. even beating anderson down for nearly 5 rounds didn't prove to be enough. silva still has his submissions skills and can use them when he needs to.Click said:
BigJonsson
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Dr.Acula said:
:lol
AranhaHunter
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Click said:
I don't see the fight going that way, but either way I remember awhile ago Rogan asked him about moving up to MW and GSP pretty much said he's not that big and whatnot, pretty much being disinterested in doing it. I don't remember after which fight that interview took place.
bone_and_sinew
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Just got home from the bar. Did Dana say anything interesting in the post-event presser?
GSP needs to fight Anderson already. I was down on this card and GSP puts on a clinic and demonstrates he is leagues above anyone at 170 and his all-around skills by far trump those of anyone in the division.
GSP needs to fight Anderson already. I was down on this card and GSP puts on a clinic and demonstrates he is leagues above anyone at 170 and his all-around skills by far trump those of anyone in the division.
BobTheFork
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yes he is more conservative but that the reputation FMJ has gotten for himself. I have seem him finish a few guys and GSP has finished a few guys, but I think in both cases it's their style. They don't take hits, they finesse and they make people look bad. IT's not exciting but if it were you and you could just dominate title fights that way, you would.BamYouHaveAids said:
There is MAJOR unfinished business with Jake Shields. Jake Shields is on a FIVE-YEAR win streak and aiming to become a champion yet again after he left with the belt in Strikefarce. His insane ground game and super-competent underrated striking (he trains with the Diazes) could give GSP fits.bone_and_sinew said:
/ufc promo
Pristine_Condition
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GSP just claimed that he threw the high kick to Koscheck's blind side "a lot" in an attempt to knock him out.
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Pristine_Condition said:
He did, did you not see it?
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Blackface said:
C'mon man, Floyd wanted Mosley when he was undefeated, Shane had a toothache and wanted to vacation. He only fights big name fights now but he's thoroughly beaten great competition.
smurfx said:
How? How about move in and out like he does to just about everyone he's ever fought, strike strike, move back. Silva isn't invincible like you're trying to make him out to be. Yes, he's got some crazy Matrx-like dodging abilities and good counter-striking, but it is possible to out-strike him... if you're good / fast enough. Silva has a slightly longer reach compared to GSP, not enough of an advantage to overwhelm GSP. And like I said, Silva's stamina is extremely questionable. GSP's stamina is world class, unmatched by most UFC fighters.
Exciting fight from GSP. I liked that he seems to be getting better when he is already on top of his weight class. Wish he had shown more killer instinct though fighting a slow and half blind Koscheck. There was zero chance Koscheck was going to land anything in those last two rounds. His leg was torn up and he had nothing left in his punches.
I think it's inevitable that GSP fights Silva at this point. Just hope Okami gets his shot after Vitor and GSP outjabs Shields.
I think it's inevitable that GSP fights Silva at this point. Just hope Okami gets his shot after Vitor and GSP outjabs Shields.
Koschecks eye looked like a baboon's ass after that fight was over. Also LOL at the folks bitching about GSP standing now, first it was complaining that he wrestles too much and now that he spent 25 minutes rearranging Koschecks face that is now apparently an issue.
The real issue is that you can't stand watching someone get completely outclassed, if the fight isn't competitive then you get bored. That isn't a problem, but pinning that on GSP is ridiculous. It's not his fault that he's lightyears beyond everyone else... actually I guess it kind of is his fault.
The real issue is that you can't stand watching someone get completely outclassed, if the fight isn't competitive then you get bored. That isn't a problem, but pinning that on GSP is ridiculous. It's not his fault that he's lightyears beyond everyone else... actually I guess it kind of is his fault.
Freshmaker
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The point of a fight is to win. Braying about a fight not being exciting enough just misses the whole point. Especially in the UFC which is very win oriented in terms of fighter retention etc.WickedAngel said:
Pride was more about entertaining fights than W/L records.
Biff
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Soooo impressed by GSP right now. When Freddie Roach is given a champion, the possibilities are endless. The speed and extension in those jabs were a thing of beauty.
And Georges took some decent shots too. Respect for Kos for still trying to be aggressive without any sort of depth perception.
Fake edit: GSP now talking about sparring with pro boxers in training camp. Makes sense now
And Georges took some decent shots too. Respect for Kos for still trying to be aggressive without any sort of depth perception.
Fake edit: GSP now talking about sparring with pro boxers in training camp. Makes sense now
NinjaCodah
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He's smart.dem said:
RiccochetJ
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Love how the reporters are completely overlooking Belfort. I dunno, his win over Franklin was somewhat impressive.
While I don't initially think that he can beat Silva, his fists could change a fight in an instant.
While I don't initially think that he can beat Silva, his fists could change a fight in an instant.
NinjaCodah
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I thought it was a very exciting fight. I don't understand why Koscheck's corner kept telling him to stand up with GSP, especially after Kos managed take GSP down in the first round. wtf! These guys are as bad as BJ's previous guys.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
Or turtles in fighting game parlance.Click said:In videogame terms, UFC champs are just a bunch of boring campers.
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