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UFC 207 Rondo Rousey vs Amanda Nunes |OT| No Love & NO MORE QUESTIONS
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What the fuck
I don't care how much money she could make the company they shouldn't let her fight if she won't promote.
Christ, I thought they let Conor do whatever he wants, this is some next-level shit.
It's also not true.
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NYR
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I meant more in the context of UFC wanting her to win and have that post fight interview as the spot to re-build her rather than running her mouth and facing difficult questions at a press conference. I don't think the fight is fixed, but I do think everything else is, including the build up and post fight. A lot easier to deal with the "loss" against Holm rift after winning the belt and having it out back on your shoulder. I really believe this is the plan all along since Ronda is so fragile mentally, they want that money shot of her with her belt and then addressing questions and building up her next fight.
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PhantomZone
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Hope Ronda loses the hype machine she has is ridiculous.
Jmanunknown
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Ronda's best chance is to take it to the ground but Amanda Nunes is by far the best ground fighter Ronda has ever faced considering she is one of only two female fighters in the UFC with brazilian jiu jitsu black belts the other being Claudia Gadelha.
not sure about that... or at least that it would help against Ronda.
Amanda has been controlled on the ground and "finished" by less talented fighters than Ronda.
But Nunes improved herself and made her to the top to get the belt. I'm so happy for her.
Miles Quaritch
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Forgive some ignorance on my part here, but why is she coming back to fight Amanda Nunes? What happened to Holmes? Doesn't the ex champ usually have the option of a rematch to win their title back?
I've been thinking about this fight for a while, and to me Nunes seems like the perfect matchup for Rousey. Jack slack perfectly encapsulates why
http://fightland.vice.com/blog/rousey-versus-nunes-a-strange-kind-of-mirror
This division seems to be shaping up like the sword-spear-axe or rock-paper-scissor division. I mean, that of the top fighters, their styles matchup in a way that they are all killers for each other but can be dismantled by the right opponent. I will steal from Jack's gifs, but just look at what Ronda does to opponents when they stand and bang
She stands her ground, fires back and waits for the clinch. Once the clinch start she sends her opponent for a ride, usually straight to kesa-gatame and starts working her juji-gatame game. This is how Amanda clinched in her fight against Valentina
and Cat
So, yeah, of course Amanda can win this fight. But she brings none of the fight techniques that proved so effective by Holly Holm. And worse, I see her style perfectly fall into exactly what Ronda wants her opponents to do.
http://fightland.vice.com/blog/rousey-versus-nunes-a-strange-kind-of-mirror
This division seems to be shaping up like the sword-spear-axe or rock-paper-scissor division. I mean, that of the top fighters, their styles matchup in a way that they are all killers for each other but can be dismantled by the right opponent. I will steal from Jack's gifs, but just look at what Ronda does to opponents when they stand and bang
She stands her ground, fires back and waits for the clinch. Once the clinch start she sends her opponent for a ride, usually straight to kesa-gatame and starts working her juji-gatame game. This is how Amanda clinched in her fight against Valentina
and Cat
So, yeah, of course Amanda can win this fight. But she brings none of the fight techniques that proved so effective by Holly Holm. And worse, I see her style perfectly fall into exactly what Ronda wants her opponents to do.
Holly is on a two loss streak in that division, but she is getting a title shot at 208 for the new 145 division.
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How is the second gif positive for nunes? Also the gif of the cat fight is one of the few wrestling exchanges she won in that fight. Cat rag dolled her and finished her.
Its absolutely not in any way, thats my point. She has a really bad clinch game that she goes to often and just muscles her way through like she did against Cat. In the first gif it shows how easily she was reversed by someone like Valentina. If she even catches a whiff of the clinch against Ronda she's getting thrown on her head immediatly.
Also, looking at people calling her ground game scary: I dont really see it. One thing is being a black belt in BJJ, but another thing is using it in MMA. Look at Vitor, he is arguably a very respectable BB, but he has gone so far from his game in MMA that its just a shell of what it was. Amanda might have a tremendous Gi/No-gi game but she has been smashed in the ground by lesser grapples than Ronda
Very recent change, they had to change it for UFC 199 due to new rules by the CSAC and then the UFC just decided to implement this new weigh in schedule.
The longer this fight goes the more Nunes will gass. She is absolutely known to gas out and break during long fights.
I didnt even know those tweigh ins were fake lol.
I feel like this just started in the spring so its still pretty new.
That is true but if Ronda is getting lit up for a round or two she may be a mess. She looked lost after absorbing Holly's shots in rd 1.
mercenar1e
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Those were official. Now the official ones are in a hotel room and the big one is just for show.
Obliterator
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Ronda and Nunes is interesting. Rousey can win the fight, especially if she can turn this into a 3 or 4 round fight. Nunes is a fast starter, and a terrible gasser traditionally. Though with her continued training at ATT her cardio may have shown improvements.
Nunes is a monster in the first RD though, and we have no idea what Ronda's head space is like going into this. Right now its a pick em fight for me and I don't feel confident enough to make a call for either.
In the co-main the smart money is on Cruz all day. That said I can't shake this feeling that No Love gets it done. For as good as Cruz's movement is, he actually leaves his head open pretty frequently and does get caught for it from time to time. Thing is he has a great chin, is super intelligent, and usually can move away quickly even if you tag him. Still I think I'm gonna pick the upset here. Something about Cody's accuracy and hand speed are just the X-Factor for me here. Won't be surprised at all if Cruz dominates but I'm going to take the riskier pick on this one.
Nunes is a monster in the first RD though, and we have no idea what Ronda's head space is like going into this. Right now its a pick em fight for me and I don't feel confident enough to make a call for either.
In the co-main the smart money is on Cruz all day. That said I can't shake this feeling that No Love gets it done. For as good as Cruz's movement is, he actually leaves his head open pretty frequently and does get caught for it from time to time. Thing is he has a great chin, is super intelligent, and usually can move away quickly even if you tag him. Still I think I'm gonna pick the upset here. Something about Cody's accuracy and hand speed are just the X-Factor for me here. Won't be surprised at all if Cruz dominates but I'm going to take the riskier pick on this one.
The real reason Ronda will lose.
(I'm actually not really sure who's going to win the main event honestly)
(I'm actually not really sure who's going to win the main event honestly)
Diprosalic
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i just hope Nunes doesn't turn out to be a super can that gets defeated by a can.
Best case: Ronda loses and we'll never hear from her ever again or she gets humbled into being decent person.
Best case: Ronda loses and we'll never hear from her ever again or she gets humbled into being decent person.
Maklershed
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They started doing the real / fake televised weigh-ins in June. It's to give the fighters more time to rehydrate and recover.
Are you saying Ronda is a can? Lol
Sohter.Nura
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Ronda's going back to fighting after that BEATING?
She's nuts. Even if she doesn't get pounded and finds herself a win, is the glory really worth eating apple sauce for the rest of your life?
She's nuts. Even if she doesn't get pounded and finds herself a win, is the glory really worth eating apple sauce for the rest of your life?
KodeAndGame
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I don't quite understand this logic. Plenty of fighters have had much worse KOs. Why single Ronda out here?
Silva is just as cocky and had a larger fall from grace (so far) and no one has anything to say about him fighting well past his peak
N° 2048
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ehhh that division isn't exactly stacked but Ronda is no can.
Probably a very casual fan. That post makes NO sense.
Like GSP got knocked out by Serra and came back to destroy and is one of the GOAT.
I still think that is the biggest upset in MMA history. Mainly because I think GSP was actually a much more skilled fighter than Serra, he just got hit by a big punch an couldn't recover.
Ronda for example got outclassed in every sense. Though I don't think Nunes can't replicate what Holly did. She has style is a lot more head on, she comes forward, Ronda could toss her and submit her for sure. But I could see Nunes wrecking her up agaisnt the fence if Ronda can't toss her.
Obliterator
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Well one thing is for sure. If Ronda loses she can't blame anything on her physical conditioning. She is in incredible shape, probably the most impressive physically I've ever seen her
She is much leaner, with a higher amount of muscle than compared to the Holm fight. At the very least she is clearly taking this fight seriously.
She is much leaner, with a higher amount of muscle than compared to the Holm fight. At the very least she is clearly taking this fight seriously.
mariachi507
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She looks to be in much better condition than the Holm fight. I remember how diminished she appeared at the weigh-in's.
Is there some inside joke I'm missing here?
Is there some inside joke I'm missing here?
Well one thing is for sure. If Ronda loses she can't blame anything on her physical conditioning. She is in incredible shape, probably the most impressive physically I've ever seen her
She is much leaner, with a higher amount of muscle than compared to the Holm fight. At the very least she is clearly taking this fight seriously.
Yeah she looks amazing. That combined with what seems to be a laser focus on training with no media shit makes me think she's going to win this.
Garbrant and team alpha male are so god damn cringey
Brerlappin
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Well one thing is for sure. If Ronda loses she can't blame anything on her physical conditioning. She is in incredible shape, probably the most impressive physically I've ever seen her
She is much leaner, with a higher amount of muscle than compared to the Holm fight. At the very least she is clearly taking this fight seriously.
Cankles like a motherfucker
I hope it's not like Meisha Tate's last fight where you can see her will to fight get beaten out of her after she takes a couple hard shots to the face.
Personally I've always liked Ronda, in the same way I like Conor, their fights are always so polarizing - and that leads to a good crowd.
I also like the idea that the belt can't be defended at this point because the women's division at this weight is so competitive.
Personally I've always liked Ronda, in the same way I like Conor, their fights are always so polarizing - and that leads to a good crowd.
I also like the idea that the belt can't be defended at this point because the women's division at this weight is so competitive.
KodeAndGame
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Diprosalic
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yes.
Jezbollah
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http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/12/...-of-head-to-head-interview-with-dominick-cruz
lol. loving Cruz's work here.
lol. loving Cruz's work here.
CassidyIzABeast
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More fire.
parrotbeak
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I don't think her physical conditioning has ever been a question. It's her striking that is suspect.
I think Ronda wins though. Nunes won't keep her distance and Ronda will do her thing. I predict a return of the 1st round arm bar.
I think Ronda wins though. Nunes won't keep her distance and Ronda will do her thing. I predict a return of the 1st round arm bar.
More fire.
that whif could probably break your face
Obliterator
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Her physicality never has been. Still this is the best shape she's ever been in. Bodes well for whether she was taking this fight seriously or not in camp.
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