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UFC 210 Cormier vs. Johnson 2 |OT| Embrace the Grind
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polyh3dron
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HE'S STILL MY BOY!
The ones Rogan was mad about doing.
Latvian Hitman
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Just allow and and all knees on the ground regardless and then we won't have to worry about it. Will make the fights more exciting to boot.
KefkaPalazzo
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Fucking BS.
Weidman-Moose 2 gonna be good.
Weidman-Moose 2 gonna be good.
AnotherDayAnotherDollar
Banned
Easy solution. Adopt Pride rules for knees on the ground.
Ninja Scooter
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It's not the refs fault. The ref doesn't have the luxury of multiple slowmo replays from different angles. The rule is stupid.
Rumblebones
Banned
This some bullshit.
Hopefully the rematch happens soon.
Hopefully the rematch happens soon.
The fight should never have been stopped is the point, it wasn't over.
AbortedWalrusFetus
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Obliterator
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The NY Athletic Commission is a fucking disgrace
Answer to first part: he must. He didn't stop it with one hand clearly down, but did when he thought two were.
Answer to second part: because NY.
parrotbeak
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It was a pretty good fight up until that point.
Just do away with the rule altogether. The previous rule was even worse since dudes gamed it all the time, but the current rule is more dangerous as you have people like Weidman tempting fate with both hands down and not defending at all. If you are on your feet all knees should be fine.
Knees and Weidman don't mix.
You're expecting him to know the rules better than the ref? Why wouldn't he take a 5 minute time out if the ref was telling him it was an illegal knee?
This was all on the ref and the ny athletic commission.
I don't think this fight deserves a rematch. Weidman should try and fight someone who is lowered ranked, get his confidence back. He's now 0-3, I feel bad for him but yeah, I know MMA is unpredictable but the fight was starting to go Mousasis way and if the ref had not stopped it, Weidman was very hurt with those knees.
AnotherDayAnotherDollar
Banned
Rumble, please save this UFC event for me.
It took the broadcast team multiple replays with various angles in order to agree that it was legal. Can't really knock Miragliotta for this one IMO, it was a close as fuck call.
riskybusinesstomcruise
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Man really sucks for both fighters. Mousasi was starting to turn it on that round, and the fight was really interesting. Such a shame.
Latvian Hitman
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Seconded. Been saying that for years. Makes no sense to me that you can elbow someone's face into oblivion from mount but can't knee a guy after a sloppy shot if they manage to get enough limbs on the mat first.
BLOODED_hands
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Yup. Fucking allow knees to the head of a downed opponent. They're nearly there already. Soccer kicks.... I don't know.
AbortedWalrusFetus
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Certainly hasn't earned the $5 cover I paid
AndrewDean84xX
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Toss the rules. Allow knees at all times and blows to the back of the head. Don't like the rules, don't fight.
parrotbeak
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I like both Rumble and DC so I'm not going to pick but Rumble can ko anyone and DC is 58 years old.
Ninja Scooter
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The fight was stopped because the doctor came into the ring at all. You can't stop a fight and examine a guy after a legal strike. The minute that happens the fight has been compromised and has to be stopped. And Weidman milked the hell out of it when he thought the knee was illegal. If he really was that out of sorts the fight should have ended anyway. The entire thing was simply an unfortunate circumstance created by a dumb rule.
Miragliotta thought they were illegal strikes
He pauses the fight, gives Weidman 5 minutes to recover
Replay should not have been used, ref simply missed the call (understandably so).
Commission decides fight is over since it was "stopped" already even though they were illegal strikes according to the ref.
He pauses the fight, gives Weidman 5 minutes to recover
Replay should not have been used, ref simply missed the call (understandably so).
Commission decides fight is over since it was "stopped" already even though they were illegal strikes according to the ref.
Rumblebones
Banned
Ref made a mistake, but it was a very understandable one as even the replays weren't all clear.
Fair.
What isn't fair, and what is the real issue here, is that once it was determined the knees were legal, the fight was not resumed and instead the ring doc stayed in the ring and thereby gave Weidman more time to recover.
This fuckery just goes to demonstrate how much NYSAC needs to catch up.
Fair.
What isn't fair, and what is the real issue here, is that once it was determined the knees were legal, the fight was not resumed and instead the ring doc stayed in the ring and thereby gave Weidman more time to recover.
This fuckery just goes to demonstrate how much NYSAC needs to catch up.
JasonUresti
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You conveniently left out Weidman dropping Silva in the first round and having him in all kinds of trouble again.
Weidman was simply better than Silva in their head to head matches. No shame there, everyone finds their kryptonite eventually, Weidman is a good fighter and Silva was past his physical prime.
RBelong2Us
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Just continue the fight in the same position , how does that not happen?
I'm happy whoever wins. Gut says Cormier by something past the 3rd round, but both are great guys and Rumble didn't cut off a pound of flesh backstage to make weight for this fight. Wouldn't be surprised if Cormier is in rough shape from the cut and Johnson catches him early.
Well, according to their last fight, DC can take Rumbles punches though :O
This - If he hadn't sold it and they had replay they would've been put back into position and fight continued.
Ninja Scooter
Member
Because Weidman had already been given time to recover from a legal strike. You can't put toothpaste back in the bottle.
Obliterator
Member
I'm all for knees to downed opponents in pretty much all situations unless they are flat on their back. That's an incredibly easy rule to enforce as well. As long as back isn't touching the mat throw as many knees as you want.
Weidman was probably fucked, yeah. He would have likely lost the match not long after that.
But it was still a compromised match and needs a rematch as soon as possible.
Spladam
Member
You're right, I guess I need to consider how hard it is to spot all this in the moment in the cage, and Mousasi was pretty slick about that lifting his hands as he threw the knee.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Okay but that's an entirely different argument. I'm just saying these claims by ignorant people that he somehow checked the kick in such an awesome way that he broke the other guy's leg is fucking stupid.
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