BadAss2961
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To be fair though, DC is watered down at LH. That cut to 205 is a big reason why he can't use his wrestling against Jones. Even happened against Gus (he ended up in a war), who isn't nearly as strong as Jones, but another big LH.
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UFC 214 |OT| Jones vs Cormier 2 - Dad Bod vs Coke Bod ft.
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darkwing-buck
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People hate Woodley? Is he the James Harden of MMA?
Rumblebones
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Dana is really not letting up on Woodley here. What an absolute cuntmuffin.
It takes two people to tangle. Woodley can't help that he keeps being matched up with specialists that need to be neutralised. He can't match Wonderboy's striking. He can't match Maia's grappling. What is he supposed to do? We've seen him fight freestyle fighters and put on impressive performances.
Dana don't care.
It wasn't exciting, but Woodley had to do what he had to do.
It takes two people to tangle. Woodley can't help that he keeps being matched up with specialists that need to be neutralised. He can't match Wonderboy's striking. He can't match Maia's grappling. What is he supposed to do? We've seen him fight freestyle fighters and put on impressive performances.
Dana don't care.
It wasn't exciting, but Woodley had to do what he had to do.
ldcommando
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dana has no chill
poor woodley
poor woodley
ScaryShark
Banned
Jon Jones (while stoned) hit a pregnant woman's car that injured her and literally ran away from the scene.
Daniel Cormier lost a daughter in a car accident.
MMA still has a huge dudebro frontrunner contingency so it's not surprising but it's pretty gross when people still love Jones and have the audacity to boo Cormier. This isn't WWE.
Being good at fighting > Being a horrible person for a lot of people that watch MMA sadly,
Daniel Cormier lost a daughter in a car accident.
MMA still has a huge dudebro frontrunner contingency so it's not surprising but it's pretty gross when people still love Jones and have the audacity to boo Cormier. This isn't WWE.
Being good at fighting > Being a horrible person for a lot of people that watch MMA sadly,
SunhiLegend
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GravityInsanity
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Savage
Hidden One
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Woodley is like UFCs Roman Reigns except Dana (vince) hates him.
ScaryShark
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Of course not. He used to say the same shit about GSP.
Woodley is great at what he does and a fantastic champion. Really not seeing the comparison. If you want to make a pro wrestling comparison Woodley would be someone like Dean Malenko. Technically amazing but never going to be a huge star.
ChosenPredator
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Dana White seems so disgusted with Woodley and his performance, lol.
dream
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Not sure I buy this comparison. Roman Reigns is exciting and generally has excellent matches. Woodley is shaping up to be the worst point fighter in all of welterweight history--and 170 is a division that has had legendary point fighters like Pat Miletich and Rush St. Pierre.
Hidden One
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Poor guy.I agree.
Even if Jones has lost his edge (it's far too early to say), I still don't see Brock standing a chance against him. If they fight, it's 5 rounds, Brock is gassed half-way through Round 2 and Jones just picks him apart.
If you look at Brock's last 3 fights, you can see he can't hang with genuine HWs anymore. He lost with Round 1 TKOs (punches) to two guys with shorter reaches than Jon Jones.
The only reason he "beat" Mark Hunt [on steroids] is because he managed to get him down and laid on him until the end of the third round.
Phoenix RISING
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THE LEGEND
serenewarfare
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Wow. Dana basically saying Woodley's performance cost him the GSP fight.
His payday is gone.
His payday is gone.
the best
ldcommando
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jones is up on the presser
ChosenPredator
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lol the guy saying people say Mayweather is a boring fighter to who people want to see lose, kinda made a good point
Dana buried T-Wood.
It's almost like the responsibility of a boring fight isn't on TWO people.
Wonderboy didn't make their fights interesting and neither did Maia.
Fuck the haters, Woodley is the deserved Champion. His takedown defence tonight was a spectacle and worth the price of admission alone.
SallyIsNow
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manfestival
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Dana is right on woodley. Stop defending him. Blaming the competition and the fighters that earned their spots.
ScaryShark
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Do you even MMA? Woodley did literally exactly what he should against guys who come in with basically one discipline and way to win. It's only his job to retain his championship.
It's Dana's job to make the most entertaining fight. Tonight went literally exactly the way anyone would have reasonably expected that watched Maia or Woodley before. This isn't WWE. It's not on Tyron to play up to or in to the crowd. That's absurd.
Yep. Clinical. Tyron is so fucking strong. That was dominance. He was barely touched for 25 minutes.
BigJonsson
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Sunhi always delivers
Phoenix RISING
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Edit: Double Post.
dream
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The state of this sport in 2017, my god.
Rumblebones
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Woodley fought 4 title fights in 12 months, KO'd the champ in round 1, defended against the #1 contender on a 7 fight win streak 3 months later, rematched said contender 4 months later, and then went on to fight the next #1 contender also on a 7 fight win streak 4 months after that.
Where the fuck does Dana come off disrespecting his most active champion? Woodley can put up spectacular shows if he's paired with the right opponent, as is the case with the vast majority of fighters.
Dana been undermining Woodley since he took the strap of Lawler. No shit he wants to get rid of Woodley ASAP. Hopefully Woodley knocks out Lawler again, but I bet you if he loses he ain't getting a rematch, or another shot at the title off the strength of one Top 10 opponent win.
Where the fuck does Dana come off disrespecting his most active champion? Woodley can put up spectacular shows if he's paired with the right opponent, as is the case with the vast majority of fighters.
Dana been undermining Woodley since he took the strap of Lawler. No shit he wants to get rid of Woodley ASAP. Hopefully Woodley knocks out Lawler again, but I bet you if he loses he ain't getting a rematch, or another shot at the title off the strength of one Top 10 opponent win.
Pupperbabysassy
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UFC fans in SoCal are trashy. They don't like black fighters who don't have the same vices as them. Woodley isn't a cokehead or Meth addict so he's hated there.
Smfh @ Dana. He just doesn't want his big draw in GSP getting washed in his first fight back. He figures (probably rightly) that GSP will kill Bisping and that will probably make more bank. And he's using that boring fight as an excuse to further shit on Woodley since Woodley beat Dana's great white hopes. Pretty transparent. But Dana's a piece of shit too.
shockthrill
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wait so dana took away the GSP fight from woodley
manfestival
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I enjoyed the fight. Dana is right though. Feels like your reaction to this is absurd. Everything went exactly as I predicted and I got my money. All is well in life.
serenewarfare
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GSP is gonna show up, beat Bisping, then peace out.
He don't want none of Woodley or Bobby Knuckles.
Yeah, he said in the fifth round of the Maia/Woodley fight tonight, he decided to do GSP/Bisping instead.
shockthrill
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Dana is a businessman before a fight fan, of course he is going to criticize Woodley's performance
That McGregor fight after Bisping would be a massive payday too.
ScaryShark
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Dana isn't 'right'. He's a promoter and his POV comes from that place and that place only.
It'd be like Adam Silver criticizing a NBA team for having stifling defense because the crowd didn't get to see as many dunks as they wanted.
Dana has done a lot of great things for MMA but he's unbelievably obnoxious and disrespectful to his fighters and has completely missed the mark on what he criticizes. If you think Maia/Woodley sucked then thats on him. Not the fighters. The fighters have no obligation to play up to what Dana wants from a fight. Thats not how any of this works.
lmao, he's so full of shit.
Maintenance
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Yeah, seeing this presser just confirmed to me that Stipe vs Bones isn't happening unless he changes class.
🤷 People watch MMA for different things.
Seeing a world class wrestler evade 21 takedown attempts against a 4th degree black belt in BJJ successfully is an awesome thing to see.
People are being straight up disrespectful to Woodley.
shockthrill
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but at least do something
even GSP at is most boring never had a fight as bad as this one
Woodley is playing safe, thats fine, but at least do something
serenewarfare
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And you get an interim belt and you get an interim belt and you get an interim belt.
slightconfuse
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Dana is so bad can't wait for him to be gone from UFC
Maintenance
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Bets on how long until Jones fucks everything up? I just can't see the guy changing, which is a shame. Without all that bullshit he did I would be willing to bet right now in an alternate universe he could be with both HW and LHW belts, or at least try.
shockthrill
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come on now
the guy is a prick alot of the time, but he build the UFC to what it is today
ScaryShark
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What is there to 'do'? Put himself in a position to lose? It's not like he squeaked out a win. He literally dominated a guy. He came out of a 5-round title fight virtually unscathed.
Again, why is it on Woodley to lessen his chances of winning against a guy who only does one thing extremely well and had one tactic the entire night? Dana should be blaming himself. There's a reason it took Maia forever to get a title shot and it's because this is what he is. He's amazing at one discipline but he is not a 2017 level contender. Dana made the fight. Live with it.
serenewarfare
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I mean you had to give Maia a shot. He was beating literally everyone they put in front of him. He's definitely a 2017 level contender considering who he beat. It's not like he had two wins and then a title fight.
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