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UK General Election - 8th June 2017 |OT| - The Red Wedding
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Would even that be enough?
Is there a good website to see this?
QuicheFontaine
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Great OP Dan!
One thing though - UKIP currently has zero seats, since their one MP changed to independent. However, I understand that the OP's based on the 2015 results.
One thing though - UKIP currently has zero seats, since their one MP changed to independent. However, I understand that the OP's based on the 2015 results.
PJV3
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Garrett Hawke
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I don't know whether I should vote SNP or Labour but my city will be SNP anyway. But I still want to vote, hate it when people complain about shit but don't bother voting.
The Daily Mail would claim Theresa May was eating a baby to stick it to EU bureaucrats and demonstrate British freedoms, local Conservative groups would schedule baby-eating workshops for the end of the week, UKIP would protest that the Conservatives weren't eating enough babies and Jeremy Corbyn would issue a strongly-worded statement condemning eating of all kinds.
Just put in your postcode to get your constituency if you don't already know it
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics/constituencies
blazinglord
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I voted for Labour under Ed Miliband in the last election, because I did not support Cameron and Osborne's extreme austerity programme which was obviously a cover to shrink the state to the bare minimum.
Will be voting for Theresa May this time round though, there's very few women in politics and May is more pro-government intervention than Cameron. And since Corbyn is so bloody awful, it's a no-brainer for me as a centrist.
Will be voting for Theresa May this time round though, there's very few women in politics and May is more pro-government intervention than Cameron. And since Corbyn is so bloody awful, it's a no-brainer for me as a centrist.
Welp.
Conservative , with candidate Oliver Dowden, have the following results:
29,696 total votes taken.
59.3% share of the total vote
+3.3% change in share of the votes
Labour , with candidate Richard Butler, have the following results:
11,235 total votes taken.
22.4% share of the total vote
+3.7
Looks like I've gotta vote Labour. I voted Lib Dem last time.
DOES NOT COMPUTE.
Sorry, but this is clearly ridiculous. A strongly worded statement from Jeremy Corbyn???
So you're voting for more austerity.
brokenbeans
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Awesome will do
blazinglord
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https://www.theguardian.com/busines...n-sunderland-averts-catastrophic-consequences
Plus I liked her idea of reforming corporate governance to put employees on the board. It's a pity that she didn't go through with it in the end (probably due to slim majority and headache of Brexit). But I think it's obvious that her political leanings are far more centrist than Cameron and co.
PJV3
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I struggle with the Tories becoming these people prepared to use the power of the state to shape the economy. She already backed down on workers in the boardroom stuff.
Talk is cheap if you never get pulled up for it.
Might be worth looking at previous elections too. 2015 saw a rise of UKIP because of the EU shit and a staggering drop for LibDem because of them getting in to bed with the Cons. My constituency was like this. I'm guessing they'll see a bit of a bounce back this time around so for me its an option. If LibDems have always been crap in your area though then yeah, Labour's your only choice to try and get at the Cons.
phisheep
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Wrong way round. I am (usually) Conservative, I am thinking of voting LibDem.
Bits N Pieces
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Glasgow? It's going to be really interesting to watch the SMSM over the next few weeks and see if it turns voters on or off? We've voted what, seven times in the last three years? Voter apathy is real.
Been Conservative since it was formed in 1983, bugger. Labour it is!
blazinglord
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Well there are going to be cuts, but it is obvious from Philip Hammond and Theresa May that they are less wedded to the idea of balancing the deficit, and clearly not afraid to pump money back into the economy rather than use it solely to fund tax cuts which Cameron and Osborne prioritised. Indeed, I thought Hammond's reform of the National Insurance contributions for self-employed was a sensible and long overdue policy. Pity again, they backtracked.
St. Helens North is a Labour majority of about 17,000 for Labour so I'm using my vote for protest against Brexit and voting Lib Dems.
I think political exhaustion is huge this year, this'll be the fourth year of major political turmoil and I think it's starting to take it's toll on people.
I think political exhaustion is huge this year, this'll be the fourth year of major political turmoil and I think it's starting to take it's toll on people.
QuicheFontaine
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Conservative Party seats: 431
Green Party seats: 2
Labour seats: 120
Lib Dem seats: 22
SNP seats: 55
Plaid Cymru seats: 3
UKIP seats: 0
Independently held seats: 0
Seats held by other parties: 19
BONUS:
Labour wipe-out in Scotland? Yep
More Conservative votes than Labour in Scotland? Yeppity yep
More Plaid Cymru seats than Labour in Wales? Nope
The Portillo award goes to..? Whazzat?
First resignation of the night? No
How many party leaders will resign? None
Seat for Nuttall? No
Green Party seats: 2
Labour seats: 120
Lib Dem seats: 22
SNP seats: 55
Plaid Cymru seats: 3
UKIP seats: 0
Independently held seats: 0
Seats held by other parties: 19
BONUS:
Labour wipe-out in Scotland? Yep
More Conservative votes than Labour in Scotland? Yeppity yep
More Plaid Cymru seats than Labour in Wales? Nope
The Portillo award goes to..? Whazzat?
First resignation of the night? No
How many party leaders will resign? None
Seat for Nuttall? No
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Portillo Award is something like: "most senior/high profile MP to be unseated", named after Michael Portillo, once seen as future leader of the Conservative Party, was unseated in a shock upset in 1997. The more relevant reference for the younger generation might be the Ed Balls Award.
PJV3
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It will be so worth it in the end.
I'm expecting an increase in consumption* as a result.
*the disease
Ravensmash
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https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ntral-to-debate-as-he-plots-to-win-back-seats
Was this posted yet? Farron has now come out and said he doesn't believe being gay is a sin.
Was this posted yet? Farron has now come out and said he doesn't believe being gay is a sin.
Don't worry about who won, look at who came second for the last 4 or 5 elections. If it was always Labour then you know what you want to do. If it used to be LibDem every time but only last year was Labour, then you might need to think some more.
Tories have successfully marketed themselves as the 'brexit' party, and are making this election all about that. So probably them.
I'm in Westminster... Yep. I usually vote Green or Liberal Democrat... but what's the point? Plus I'm actually living in Dusseldorf until September so I might not bother with any of it. Why don't they change the electoral system to the same one as Brexit instead... *I don't need a serious reply on why that isn't a good idea - it's just hyperbole on the awful game of baccarat that's happening in UK politics at the minute where no voter of any affliation is actually being heard or agreeing wholeheartedly with their party imho. You'll have Brexiters voting Tory but hating the Tories, Tories voting Tory but hating Brexit, Labour supporters voting Labour but hating Brexit and/or Corbyn, myself probably voting Lib Dem/Green because I care about their policies and Brexit repulses me but know they won't get anywhere.
If you actually believe that the Tories aren't going to continue their ideological pursuit of austerity then you will soon get the government you deserve.
As a N.I. resident eager to get the fuck out of the shit show that the UK is fast becoming, I hope you all keep ploughing ahead on your current trajectory. You are delivering the kind of mandate for Irish nationalism I thought I'd never see in my lifetime.
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...the DUP are the majority party in Northern Ireland and well to the right of the Conservatives?
There is no chance whatsoever that it will happen, but saw this tweet earlier and it made me dream
https://twitter.com/hrtbps/status/854582496704573440?s=08
Possibly if the UKIP voters go Conservative. If they split again then no, it'll be Labour.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoke-on-Trent_Central_(UK_Parliament_constituency)
Not that it'd ever happen (fuck, it'd be more likely to happen with Labour), but I presume if that happens the deputy leader (which according to Wikipedia is Hammond) becomes PM?
cjp
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I hope everyone takes out the time to check Calum's List.
I think in that event the Conservatives have another leadership election and whoever wins that is the new PM. But I daresay there are more knowledgeable people on here who will be able to say whether thats wrong or not!
People need to vote for the LD's like crazy for this to happen.Even if this happened one of the conservative candidates that won would probably open their seat up for her ot take in a byelection.
It's such an incredibly cheap attempt at a get out clause to try and claim you're being made a victim because of your religion. If you have shitty opinions, you shouldn't be able to handwave it away as prejudice against you because you read it in an old book somewhere.
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Deleted member 231381
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The Prime Minister doesn't have to be an MP. There's no law stipulating this. They are whoever can command the confidence of the House of Commons. Technically, if May lost her seat but the Conservatives won an enormous great majority, they could just make her Prime Minister anyway. We could make Harry Styles PM if the House of Commons thought that was okay.
In fact, technically, the Act of Settlement 1701 banned MPs from even becoming ministers, never mind Prime Minister - you could not be both an MP and hold an office of profit under the crown. But the later Robert Walpole used his influence over the judiciary at the time to have this act interpreted as referring to the offices of the crown concerned with the Crown's profits, and this has never been challenged since, meaning one of the most important aspects of the parliamentary system (the lack of separation between the legislature and executive) rests on one of the most flimsy pieces of common law of all time.
...but realistically, the Conservatives would have a super-short election to be able to pick a leader.
For more trivia: MPs are actually forbidden from resigning. You can only leave the job at the behest of the electorate, or by becoming ineligible to be an MP. So to "resign", MPs are actually appointed to the position of Crown Steward and Bailiff of the three Chiltern Hundreds of Stoke, Desborough, and Burnham - which is an office intended to manage the profits of the crown, thereby making them ineligible to be MPs. This is why you sometimes hear of MPs 'taking the Chiltern Hundreds' when they step down.
Again, this is due to Robert Walpole being a sneaky bastard and inventing most of the foundations of our parliamentary system.
Spaced Harrier
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If your against brexit and in England you have to vote libdem anything else is pointless.
The best that could happen is a lib resurgence, corbyn ousted, a Lib Dem / Labour coalition where the anti brexit labour member outnumber the pro.... and fuck it.
It's just gonna happen anyway. Shit electoral system and no opposition party apart from the SNP.
The best that could happen is a lib resurgence, corbyn ousted, a Lib Dem / Labour coalition where the anti brexit labour member outnumber the pro.... and fuck it.
It's just gonna happen anyway. Shit electoral system and no opposition party apart from the SNP.
phisheep
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Conversation with a voter this evening ...
Me: So who are you going to vote for?
Her: UKIP
Me: But why? Their only policy is Brexit and that's already happening.
Her: I think Nigel Farage would make a brilliant Prime minister, he tells it like it is
Me: So if you were in America you'd have voted for Donald Trump then?
Her: What do you think I am, stupid?
Jezbollah
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Vigilant Walrus
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On the 8th, the child of Xenu will feast.. let the blood run deep.
Norwegian_Imposter
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Thats where I am from, Billinge Represent!
That's a carbon copy of nearly every conversation I've had with a Brexiter.
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