UK police arrest woman after immigrant walks into her home

Dr.Morris79 said:
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I'm no gynecologist, but I know a cunt when I see one...
 
 
i feel for you brits. my country (germany) is also going down the toilet in a spectacular fashion, and so are france, sweden, and others. the wheels are coming off faster than expected and it's not just the uk.
 
Haint said:
What is even the argument for the UK letting in so many third world migrants? Are they trying to import labor for undesirable vocations like farm hands, construction/manual labor, janitorial, low level service work etc...? Is it true that a very large portion, if not majority, are just leeching your social systems for free stipends, healthcare, and housing every month?
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woke points
 
Three said:
Nothing to do with this incident in the OP but don't let me stop the political agendas here. You can find outrageous comments from looneys everywhere including some countries asking to kill kids because they are the enemy but those loonies are not the general state of the country.
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go back to era.
 
IDKFA said:
I don't want to fuck over Ricky Jones. I want a system that makes sense. If Ricky Jones and Lucy Connelly are both inciting violence (they both were) then both should be behind bars, no?
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You're oversimplifying this for your own views.
IDKFA said:
She did regret after, something taken into consideration with her judgement.

Was Ricky Jones just lashing out then? Just the heat of the moment. Is that all it takes to let off without prison. Saying you regret your actions straight away.
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After getting arrested she said this but admitted to the crime of inciting racial hatred. She even had posts prior to the murder so this idea that her actions were in the heat of the moment of the incident were not true either when it was multiple counts of racial hate prior to it. She went on to say that if they came after her she would play the "mental health card" too. During her defence she was absolutely just as idiotic, did not argue that it wasn't to be taken literally or that it wasn't racial hatred towards people (because it clearly was) and even pleaded guilty to the charge.
So yes it depends how your case goes.
Ricky Jones was not inciting racial violence or hatred. A little difficult to do at an anti-racism rally, he did not have any prior history of inciting violence or hatred against innocent people like Lucy. Even his idiotic speech to "cut the throats" of those who left the razor blades was at least presented as "not literal" and not aimed at innocent people who share the same race as the perpetrators. It was directed at the perpetrators. so it was a little more difficult to pin racial hate speech on the guy. You can easily say "hang/death to those who steal bikes" and claim it isn't literally asking people to kill others, and there is nothing racial about it. Say "burn the houses of Somalians" or something like that though and you've clearly got a problem. There is a difference and there is no double standard at play. That vile Abu Hamsa got the maximum 7 years prison too so it doesnt apply one way. Just be a decent person in the UK and you'll be fine in terms of these laws. these laws are there to protect the sane innocent people who aren't hell bent on dividing the people in it.

rkofan87 said:
go back to era.
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No thanks. Was never there to go back to it. Maybe you're speaking from experience?
 
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IntentionalPun said:
Wut?
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Show up next to a "Free Palestine", "Trans rights are human rights", or any kind of pro-immigration rally, particularly ones with lots of mexican flags waving; and start walking around with the US flag and see which side the police come over to "de-escalate" the situation.

Hell, I used to do gorucks and we would carry a flag, just a line of 20-40 people walking at 4am and a big flag or three and the cops come a running expecting some sort of right wing neo-nazi nonsense. It's pathetic.
 
poppabk said:
You dont think that there were riots across the country based on the spreading of false information - that her comments directly fed in to - had an impact?
Without the actual violence I doubt this ever got anywhere near a court.
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I think the riots were based on the butchering of young children (again) and it was the straw which broke the camel's back. Regardless, it seems it is specifically the rioting rather than the veracity of what was said which you actually consider the relevant factor in the extent of the punishment, which I would agree with.

If you are under the impression there wouldn't have been rioting in response to the butchering of young girls by a child of African immigrants if only he had been correctly identified as such, I suspect you may be mistaken. I suspect that is a distinction without a difference in the minds of those who rioted.
 
I'm so confused, all I ever see online are British citizens sick of this nonsense and yet it continues and is getting worse. Are the only sane people left there a small vocal minority?
 
kpopSuperstar said:
She actually used the words racial hatred? or did they? you have to take into context that kids were killed and she is furious.

It's not unrelated criminals, they are all part of the same system. The hotels facilitate mass immigration.

It's completely natural to be angry at immigrant institutions and the left when people are getting butchered in the streets.
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She had racial hate posts prior to the murder. Yes there is racial hatred in her words. Not all immigrants are criminals so asking for them to burn is racial hatred when they are only "related" by nationality or origin. Nobody asks for all Liverpudlians to burn because some guy ran over 130 people do they. why should they here? It's clearly racial as was her other racial comments prior to that crime. It's just confirmation bias.
 
Three said:
She had racial hate posts prior to the murder. Yes there is racial hatred in her words. Not all immigrants are criminals so asking for them to burn is racial hatred when they are only "related" by nationality or origin. Nobody asks for all Liverpudlians to burn because some guy ran over 130 people do they. why should they here? It's clearly racial as was her other racial comments prior to that crime. It's just confirmation bias.
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If more than 80% of certain type of crimes are perpetrated by a group of the same nationality is objectively legit to SHOUT against those. Stop this racism bollocks, because this is solely related to cultural background.

In Spain, 90% of smugglers and rapists are Moroccans and Algerians, so if I say FUCK THEM BOTH it's not because I dont like their slightly brownish skin but because I fucking despise the shitholes where they came from and their barbarian ways.

If they were Google Engineers or just plain bricklayers, I'd have nothing against them. It happens that they are mostly drug dealers and scum of the worst kind. Should be easy to understand.
 
Angry_Megalodon said:
If more than 80% of certain type of crimes are perpetrated by a group of the same nationality is objectively legit to SHOUT against those. Stop this racism bollocks, because this is solely related to cultural background.
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The statistics don't match what you're saying in the UK though. What type of crime? They are not the majority of anything. The "immigrant hotels" arent even from a specific "cultural background". They're from everywhere. Several very different countries from all over the world.
Angry_Megalodon said:
In Spain, 90% of smugglers and rapists are Moroccans and Algerians, so if I say FUCK THEM BOTH it's not because I dont like their slightly brownish skin but because I fucking despise the shitholes where they came from and their barbarian ways.
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I don't follow spanish statistics but I know that even Spain has racism problems with a group of its football fans that extends beyond "rapists and smugglers" when they're chanting racist shit at players earning millions and in no need of smuggling shit.
Angry_Megalodon said:
If they were Google Engineers or just plain bricklayers, I'd have nothing against them. It happens that they are mostly drug dealers and scum of the worst kind. Should be easy to understand.
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You're generalising a lot but I won't stop you. Just know that there is no "two tiered" law even if your poor generalisation of people were true that's what I'm trying to tell you. The statistics dont match what you're saying either, at least in the UK.
 
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Three said:
She had racial hate posts prior to the murder. Yes there is racial hatred in her words. Not all immigrants are criminals so asking for them to burn is racial hatred when they are only "related" by nationality or origin. Nobody asks for all Liverpudlians to burn because some guy ran over 130 people do they. why should they here? It's clearly racial as was her other racial comments prior to that crime. It's just confirmation bias.
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Liverpudlians? what?

What racial thing did she say?

All immigrants not being criminals mean nothing, 5% is enough to ruin societies and cause mass division that will never go away.
 
Three said:
You're oversimplifying this for your own views.

After getting arrested she said this but admitted to the crime of inciting racial hatred. She even had posts prior to the murder so this idea that her actions were in the heat of the moment of the incident were not true either when it was multiple counts of racial hate prior to it. She went on to say that if they came after her she would play the "mental health card" too. During her defence she was absolutely just as idiotic, did not argue that it wasn't to be taken literally or that it wasn't racial hatred towards people (because it clearly was) and even pleaded guilty to the charge.
So yes it depends how your case goes.
Ricky Jones was not inciting racial violence or hatred. A little difficult to do at an anti-racism rally, he did not have any prior history of inciting violence or hatred against innocent people like Lucy. Even his idiotic speech to "cut the throats" of those who left the razor blades was at least presented as "not literal" and not aimed at innocent people who share the same race as the perpetrators. It was directed at the perpetrators. so it was a little more difficult to pin racial hate speech on the guy. You can easily say "hang/death to those who steal bikes" and claim it isn't literally asking people to kill others, and there is nothing racial about it. Say "burn the houses of Somalians" or something like that though and you've clearly got a problem. There is a difference and there is no double standard at play. That vile Abu Hamsa got the maximum 7 years prison too so it doesnt apply one way. Just be a decent person in the UK and you'll be fine in terms of these laws. these laws are there to protect the sane innocent people who aren't hell bent on dividing the people in it.


No thanks. Was never there to go back to it. Maybe you're speaking from experience?
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He was let go because it didn't amount to nothing, while Lucy is seen as an instigator.

But inciting murder is frankly worse than what Lucy did. If he was a white right-wing English guy he would be in jail right now.

Imagine a conservative telling his supporters to cut the throats of leftish people. That wouldn't have gone very far.
 
kpopSuperstar said:
Liverpudlians? what?
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I'm referring to the guy who intentionally drove his van into 130 people including 4 kids. I'm making the same stupid connection of origin and ethnicity in the hope that it will hit home that a lot of the time the "butchering on our streets" is confirmation bias that exists when somebody ties it to ethnicity.
kpopSuperstar said:
What racial thing did she say?

All immigrants not being criminals mean nothing, 5% is enough to ruin societies and cause mass division that will never go away.
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She made comments about Somalian immigrants. She pleaded guilty to inciting racial hatred. Why would you plead guilty then? Unless you believe she did so to kick up a political shitstorm uprising for her conservative husbands political career.

More than 5% of the current population are criminals so was society ruined before? 33% of males born in the 1950s had been convicted by 2006 of at least one offence in England/Wales. Our national murder rate per million has actually decreased over the years. Treating people and trying to get others to treat others poorly just by this loose association is wrong on many levels.
 
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Dr.Morris79 said:
Oh god yeah, I remember that one :messenger_tears_of_joy:

Stone cold Austin and his .22. I honestly never knew you could get a S&W revolver in that calibre.. :messenger_neutral:

I spose it done that job, but even a gun nut like me from the UK, it seemed a bit.. girly.
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I never carry them for protection but have a couple .22 pistols one being a silenced Ruger MK IV and when you shoot subsonic shells, they are insanely quiet


 
Three said:
I don't follow spanish statistics but I know that even Spain has racism problems with a group of its football fans that extends beyond "rapists and smugglers" when they're chanting racist shit at players earning millions and in no need of smuggling shit.
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A clarification on this, because this is also hard to understand for anglosaxons. In my country, we have NEVER had any racial tension, no apartheid, no seggregation. That never happened. Not even with gypsys, which are the most "hated" group despite being an essential part of our history. The concept of racism based on "skin color" is foreign to us. This "race obsession" is not universal. Anglosaxons (English speaking countries) are so fond of it, but we dont give a damn. In my country it's a cultural thing (not defending it) to call you bastard, sonofabitch or even racial slurs as a "common offense", without the weight that you guys give them in your country. Only in the modern era with the influence of the globalization we are adopting this moronic mindset, which was never part of our culture.

If anything, a good part of modern Spain is antisemitic due to the leftist influence, not because people at a personal level hold any grudge against jewes. It's part of the global brain rot and they go with the flow. Fucking dumb.

By the way, when discussing the crimes commited by these groups, many dismiss the notion that those are also racially motivated. They EXPLICITLY say so. It's wild that the ones suffering all this are the racist and not those who murder and rape ONLY local people.
 
HeisenbergFX4 said:
I never carry them for protection but have a couple .22 pistols one being a silenced Ruger MK IV and when you shoot subsonic shells, they are insanely quiet


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Okay I'm not going to lie, they can be a bit special, and I want one..

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They do serve a purpose in a pinch.. As stone cold proved..

I have to admit I've been a bit of a gun enthusiast since around 4. Don't ask me why, we don't even have them here in the general populace..

I'm actually thinking of getting of my arse finally and getting a licence. A friend of mine has his shotgun and the range seems friendly 🤷‍♂️
 
If I had to own a gun, it'd definitely be one of those sexy magnums from the Resident Evil series. I was thinking about buying a bow and taking up archery, but the club near to me has closed membership signups.
 
kpopSuperstar said:
He was let go because it didn't amount to nothing, while Lucy is seen as an instigator.

But inciting murder is frankly worse than what Lucy did. If he was a white right-wing English guy he would be in jail right now.

Imagine a conservative telling his supporters to cut the throats of leftish people. That wouldn't have gone very far.
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You think she asked to burn empty hotels?
He had an out because he claimed that "they" meant the people who left the razors on trains behind National front stickers and that it wasn't literal. Not to literally kill 'rightists' of any kind. Like I said, there is nuance in either case that landed Lucy in trouble. Lucy tied the crime to innocent people based on origin, asked for people to burn where they're staying, did not defend her tweet by saying it was a silly tweet but instead said they should do the same to the police and government. pleaded guilty to inciting racial hatred. Why? Thats why she was sentenced. She even went as far as to say that if they come for her she will play the "mental health card", she did not have a good record for the judge in comparison. It's that simple. There wasn't really much of a case when she pleaded guilty anyway. You don't plead guilty if you want to defend your innocence of not inciting racial hatred. You condemn the racial hatred and apologise for the mistake but she knew what she was pleading guilty to. what did she expect for the judge to say after doing that too "oh you yourself say you were inciting racial hatred but no worries, run along now". She put up no effort in defending the idea that it wasn't racial, she even reveled in it before. This was the issue with her case.
 
The issue is with UK law is there's a number of 'open to interpretation' laws which the Police can choose to arrest you for, or not. And the CPS can choose to pursue a conviction against you, or not. Such as hate crimes, trying to cause alarm and distress, and public order offences.

Trespass is a civil offence, but how is going on to someone's house not going to cause alarm and distress? It absolutely should have been an arrestable offence in this case.

As for Lucy Connelly, she is a political prisoner. Her jail term was actual insanity and against the norm in the UK.

The Labour MP shouldn't be jailed for words either, but considering the heavy handed sentences for Southport 'rioters' who did things like shout at a police dog and receive custodial sentences - it's a case of selective justice.
 
Sonik said:
This must be false, some posters yesterday explained to me this is an isolated incident of cops making a mistake, NOT a systemic issue
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Listen, the country is fine, okay

Don't panic.

We'll grab an Uber from Muhammad, don't worry about the stains on the back seat, it's only some other mugs daughter, pick up a kebab (Don't ask if the meat is a teenager, ffs), get a Turkish hair cut on the way home and discuss how everyone's far right :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 
Dr.Morris79 said:
I own one, it's a 5.5 bb gas twat, and it's absolutely bollocks. The cocking hammer has shit the bed already and I haven't even used it :messenger_tears_of_joy:

Utter trash shit!
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Oh, that's disappointing. There's a shop in Shipley where I live which has a massive range of all sorts of BB guns and air rifles. They've got this massive sniper rifle looking thing which looks amazing, but it's over £200!
 
EerieArcade said:
Oh, that's disappointing. There's a shop in Shipley where I live which has a massive range of all sorts of BB guns and air rifles. They've got this massive sniper rifle looking thing which looks amazing, but it's over £200!
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Honestly, be wary. There is so much garbage in the UK when it comes to proper fire arms. If you do actually want a good thing that'll last, aye, it'll be over £200 🫡

And even then be careful, there is so much nonsense going on!
 
Dr.Morris79 said:
Okay I'm not going to lie, they can be a bit special, and I want one..

J1mYCqvSe1nc2yXA.gif


They do serve a purpose in a pinch.. As stone cold proved..

I have to admit I've been a bit of a gun enthusiast since around 4. Don't ask me why, we don't even have them here in the general populace..

I'm actually thinking of getting of my arse finally and getting a licence. A friend of mine has his shotgun and the range seems friendly 🤷‍♂️
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If you do make sure to practice practice practice and never stop

Make sure you know that firearm inside and out
 
Banjo64 said:
The responding police, and there was about 5 of them, didn't arrest him. He was arrested a day later. That is correct isn't it?
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I'm not sure if it was a day later or not but the police arrested him for assault afterwards and not at the time, I suspect because there was no reasonable grounds to at the time prior to showing up, before the subsequent investigation. That wasn't the initial responding police in the video though I don't think. She was apparently arrested after in a separate incident at her home having returned to the hotel with a meat cleaver, so that was incident 2 at a different time. I think they put in the assault report later after the trespassing incident too, you can hear the person outside saying they want to file a report but I'm not 100% on that. Hopefully the Met police do a good job on this.
 
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Dr.Morris79 said:
Listen, the country is fine, okay

Don't panic.

We'll grab an Uber from Muhammad, don't worry about the stains on the back seat, it's only some other mugs daughter, pick up a kebab (Don't ask if the meat is a teenager, ffs), get a Turkish hair cut on the way home and discuss how everyone's far right :messenger_tears_of_joy:
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Hey now don't knock Turkish haircuts who else is going to singe the fuzz off your ears. A little context I live in Texas
 
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Three said:
I'm not sure if it was a day later or not but the police arrested him for assault afterwards and not at the time, I suspect because there was no reasonable grounds to at the time prior to showing up, before the subsequent investigation.
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Demented looking man walks in to strangers home uninvited. Seems like an easy arrest to me. I've seen auditers arrested for standing outside a police station on a public footpath for doing literally nothing.
 
Dr.Morris79 said:
Hey, I live in a small town of 20+ Turkish barbers, and none of those fuckers can cut hair :messenger_tears_of_joy:

And I ain't trying again.
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I live in Houston, Texas and they are great barbers and singe the fuzz off your earlobes no one else does that here. I guess the good barbers came here and the rest went to your village, sorry.
 
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Days like these... said:
I live in Houston, Texas and they are great barbers and singe the fuzz off your earlobes. I guess the good barbers came here and the rest went to your village, sorry.
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It is what it is 🤷‍♂️

It would actually make you laugh though. The places they've set up are notorious for being down and out shit holes, but there they are, smack bang in the middle with at least a £750.000 pound barber setup, even the chairs must be 3 grand a piece..

It's actually fucking ridiculous :messenger_tears_of_joy:

And a total fuck you to the community

But hey, if they can get the low life kids who don't have a proper fathet peddling drugs for their empire, who can knock it eh?

Pure business.
 
Banjo64 said:
Demented looking man walks in to strangers home uninvited. Seems like an easy arrest to me. I've seen auditers arrested for standing outside a police station on a public footpath for doing literally nothing.
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He does look demented but you can't arrest people for looking demented unfortunately. The guy may not have been on the property by the time they showed up or was possibly playing victim by saying he was "being chased". Police still need reasonable grounds to suspect that a person has committed, or is committing a crime before an arrest. This can sometimes be frustrating but they need time to build reasonable grounds for arrest.

The police station auditers are just confrontations with the police as it happens in realtime. sometimes police make stupid incorrect mistakes there too and some of the auditers(social media chasers) instigate that stuff intentionally for views.
 
Dr.Morris79 said:
It is what it is 🤷‍♂️

It would actually make you laugh though. The places they've set up are notorious for being down and out shit holes, but there they are, smack bang in the middle with at least a £750.000 pound barber setup, even the chairs must be 3 grand a piece..

It's actually fucking ridiculous :messenger_tears_of_joy:

And a total fuck you to the community

But hey, if they can get the low life kids who don't have a proper fathet peddling drugs for their empire, who can knock it eh?

Pure business.
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Theyre all on the up and up over here the Pakistanis too they stick to owning corner stores. They know our cops will shoot first then worry about asking questions. Some benefit I guess
 
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