They probably would have stopped at Vienna anyways. Do you think the English wrote any songs expressing joyous relief of the Ottomons failure in the Siege? Random question I know.
In a sense they did with the crusades, as a struggle against the incursion of Islamic forces into areas that were Christian. And certainly the English have been involved in that area for centuries. And I bet that does play a bit for why this is happening.
Actually that take is rather naïve. It goes far beyond the idea of maintaining social cohesion and into preventing civil war. Western European governments fear muslim uprisings because they know that if they happen and they quash them, the optics will be terrible and will have worldwide consequences. I once saw a video of somebody explaining that a muslim man was arrested in the UK for assaulting another man with a brick, something potentially fatal. Apparently the local imam showed up to the police station and demanded the muslim be released and said that it he wasn't, he would gather all the local muslims and they would riot in the streets and so the police just let the guy go.No, no, no. You don't understand. The councils and police might have been called 'racist' if they went after the perpetrators! It's all for 'social cohesion'. It's for the greater good!
Well, since you're big on technicalities, the name of the song is "On the Relief of Vienna". It was written in 1683 when Polish Hussars came within inches of losing the Austrian capital to the Ottomans during a two-month siege. Enslavement, forced conversion and more awaited the woman and children had they failed. I'm not sure if the original listeners would trade their assured safety for barber shops and food stands. Let's try a thought experiment. Imagine a 28-year-old English man who was alive to hear On the Relief of Vienna when it was new. Drop him in modern day Birmingham for 72 hours. What would his assessment be? Do you think he's going to give a nuanced take about the vast differences between Turks and Pakis, potential benefits of cultural enrichment and exotic food options? If we go and interview any of the newcomer lads in Birmingham about their thoughts on making the UK an Islamic nation, would we find any interest?
It was either convert, accept 2nd class citizenship as dhimmi's or be killed. And Muslim men are allowed to take non-Muslim (sex)slaves.
Impossible? In this the same little island that brought order, technology and riches to the world? Deporting a few hundred thousand low class nomads would be light work for the Britannia of yore. 2-4 weeks tops. Sad to see their decedents completely paralyzed by fear and cowardice. Willing to give up everything to avoid possibly being called a meanie by strangers. Guess what? If you don’t deport them and continue to cower, they’re still going to call you racist. That doesn’t change.
Rotherham next year
If you start deporting in large numbers, the ones remaining will revolt and there are millions of them, what then? People don't realize that almost half of Londoners are foreign born at this point. That's the reality of the UK. Once you let foreigners come in en masse and take over your country, it's no longer your country, it slowly becomes theirs. Ask the native Americans if you don't believe me.
Yep. It's just a fast race to the bottom now.
So are you saying it's already over or are you saying you should wait until it's certainly too late to start trying in earnest?
The things I say might sound harsh, but I truly admire British history and culture. I think they've done so much good for world spreading orderly civilization to the far corners of the world. I myself am a diaspora baby. I cannot go 'home'. I beg of anyone in the UK with true heritage in the UK: fight. Fight like today is the last day you can fight.
Its no so much about deporting, especially the ones born in the UK, but about holding them accountable to the standards and expectations of the rest AND rooting out the destructive (or at least antagonistic) aspects of their 'native' culture. Are they learning english, are they clustering in areas and excluding everyone else, are they embracing the inclusion and diversity of the country or just replicating their specific origin area? How much social services are being expended versus the return and what is the plan to get these communities to be productive?
www.spectator.co.uk
Can the Crown get involved? Surely the King, the Defender of the Faith, can exact change or trigger a discussion, at the very least.
You can, purchase offshore processing and send them there. We would literally just transfer the people to life boats that would auto drive back to where they came from. Fuck international bullshit either take back your own control or don’t but we haven’t had an illegal immigration issue since.
Some of the world had a whinge but nothing come of it and never will, who cares what the EU says dump them back in buses onto French soil for not protecting their own borders.
Come on bro . The boss is letting this thread exist despite the politics behind it. Don't go down some insane conspiracy theory with it.
Lol the only ones calling the rape gangs a conspiracy are Muslims in denial.
UK. You gotta stop this shit. You are giving away your country under the guise of tolerance and being “not racist.”Forget about it, the UK just elected Shabana Mahmood, as the Minister for Justice. And she would rather go after the fathers of the victims, than after the people that raped children and the people that hid all these crimes for so many years.
I mean, we're literally offering to pay billions of pounds for someone else to take our territory. And when they say that's not enough, we keep offering more.
Too late to stop it now. It's gone too far.
What is the logic in this? Where does this line of pathological thinking originate from?
