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Uncharted 3 |OT| All Developers Dream, But Not Equally
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Um yeah, except for the fact that killing Hammer guy does not always guarantee that his gun will fall down. And even if it does, that area is the very location where 2 armor-wearing shotgun thugs appear. 1-2 shots from them (not to mention all the laser guys still above if you haven't taken care of them), Nate is dead and you're back to wave 2, which is totally bullshit. I wouldn't mind repeating that 3rd wave only but having to repeat wave 2 as well is an exercise in frustration. And this is not my first time with Uncharted. No wonder many newcomers are turned off by the battle.Raonak said:
cool_trainer
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Started the game and decided to just do a long marathon all night. I'm on chapter 19 now and will get some sleep and finish it up when I wake up. I'm loving the game.
Progmetal said:Finished it, and what an awesome game it was. One of the very few games that is hard to stop playing once you start.
Thank you Naughty Dog for this great serie that Uncharted 1,2&3 is.
The only downside to finishing an Uncharted game... is wanting more Uncharted games at the end.
Raonak
Banned
Replicant said:
Every time i killed him the hammer appeared.
Also, by the time you kill the hammer guy and the brute, the shotgun guys had come more near the front of the ballroom, usually on the right side, head left way and you have nothing to worry about except rouge bullets and the snipers.
Once you grab the hammer, you continue on to the door area right at the back. Theres cover there and it's under the balconony meaning no-one above can shoot.
vola. hammer the shotgun guys (2-3 shots each) kill the rest easily.
Callibretto
Member
that said, I really don't think Golden Abyss will ever top this one in term of set pieces etc. Bend will have to try to upped U3 in some other area, I hope the exploration, puzzles and combat is great in that one. because they're not gonna beat U3 in scale and set piecesKagari said:
Just beat it on crushing,
Overall I think the AI design and map design resembles UC1 a lot except they're bigger and a little more dynamic, I would rate UC3 about the same as UC1, similar design, with some improvements but 3 lacked balance and polish. It's a bit fun in a "oh this is the most optimal way to beat this level" kind of way, like a puzzle that you need to figure out, but there's also a bit less room for improvising.
think my favorite area was something between the boat and the air port, I didn't really like the combat as much in this game mostly to do with the scripted enemy spawns, sure they were in 2 but I thought they were designed a little better there and improved over the first game, I also liked the map designs there a bit more, making it a bit more fun to "explore" and try out different strategies due to more area to move around without being exposed to enemies that're placed at a far distance.
In UC3, you're a bit restricted due to the enemies placement where you would be "bottlenecked" to a small zone because you won't have enough room to avoid snipers/grenade launchers, it is also best not to walk ahead because enemies will always close up on you. The best example is the very last area and the last area in Syria, where if you walk to far ahead, you are exposed to enemies at a higher/lower elevation, in the last area, they replace them with rocket guys, not to mention for the more linear maps, the 2nd waves make it a bit annoying because more snipers would spawn on top or at a place you couldn't see when you think you're done with them, makes the battle a bit messy.
In UC3, you're a bit restricted due to the enemies placement where you would be "bottlenecked" to a small zone because you won't have enough room to avoid snipers/grenade launchers, it is also best not to walk ahead because enemies will always close up on you. The best example is the very last area and the last area in Syria, where if you walk to far ahead, you are exposed to enemies at a higher/lower elevation, in the last area, they replace them with rocket guys, not to mention for the more linear maps, the 2nd waves make it a bit annoying because more snipers would spawn on top or at a place you couldn't see when you think you're done with them, makes the battle a bit messy.
Overall I think the AI design and map design resembles UC1 a lot except they're bigger and a little more dynamic, I would rate UC3 about the same as UC1, similar design, with some improvements but 3 lacked balance and polish. It's a bit fun in a "oh this is the most optimal way to beat this level" kind of way, like a puzzle that you need to figure out, but there's also a bit less room for improvising.
Augemitbutter
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Meisadragon said:
indeed. hanging back in cover and picking out enemies one by one is the biggest snoozefest in the history of gaming. i'm glad ND is better than that.
aggressive enemies ftw.
MoonsaultSlayer
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You know, I think the over-animated, lack of control complaints (that even I, myself, had made) aren't valid once you play the game through again. ND probably tested that shit for so long it felt natural. And it's true, my second time through feels just right. I realize why it controls the way it does and why he animates the way he does. Feels good, man.
Although hands reaching to touch invisible walls is a little wonky.
Although hands reaching to touch invisible walls is a little wonky.
Callibretto
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MoonsaultSlayer said:
after I get the hang of his animation, I can expect how he will animates no matter what direction or action you input, when I can feel to have perfect control of Drake again.
Callibretto
Member
Kagari said:
it's not rare for the portable version of game is better than the console version. I know some people prefer Peace Walker, Resistance PSP, Ghost of Sparta, better than the console counterpart. if Golden Abyss can have better exploration and puzzles, I can see some people will like it better than U3 even if it will lack U3 setpieces and scale
Tried to do it four times like that and each time, after Hammer guy fell, I'd try to look for his gun. But before I could find it, those shotgun jokers appear there and double flanked me. They appear in tandem when the snipers and hammer climbed up the crates.Raonak said:
In the end I could only grab the shotgun and run to the back right away. Threw some grenades, which luckily killed one of the shotgun thugs. Then I had to melee the other shotgun guy in behind crates so sniper laser thugs couldn't shoot me. Then I could just headshotted the sniper. Either way, this battle was ridiculously cheap thanks to how it nerf your stronger weapons and give you crap ones if you have to restart the wave.
hullostranger
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mr. puppy said:doesnt work
Stand exactly on the star sign plate and you should be fine!
mr. puppy said:
There's a reason a patch is coming: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=450878
Kagari said:
yeah i saw, its just frustrating that this game is hyped beyond belief and the controls are absolutely horrible. the AI on the enemies bugging out everytime there is a firefight is even worse. i really really don't understand why people love this game except for the cinematics of it.
Kagari said:
so you're fine with the glitch enemy AI, incredibly unresponsive controls when jumping during chase scenes or whatever, or even the fact that in order to move to a new event (usually pushing triangle) you have to move around the door or device or whatever for a few seconds in order to get the stupid angle that the developers decided was needed to move forward?
VeryGooster
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Kagari said:
Despite all the hoopla about the aiming, by the middle of the game it was (sort of) a non-issue to me and I got used to it, although I did test out Chapter 4 in Uncharted 2 a little bit and yeah, so good.
I caved in yesterday and DLed the OST from iTunes.
The music has always been my favorite thing about this series.
MoonsaultSlayer
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This is a late reply but I wanted to expand on my comment.hey_it's_that_dog said:
During the
desert walk, we slowly watch our character dying of thirst and overheating. All of this could have been a cutscene. But as we as players grit our teeth just to trudge through, imagine the anguish of the character. On top of that, I'm sure the good majority of people have broken their jaws oogling at the scenery which contrasts what is actually happening to Drake. We admire the beauty that is basically the cause of Drake's suffering.
mr. puppy said:
I didn't have many glitches in my playthrough. The jumping controls feel very similar to UC2, which I was just playing last night, but again, as I said, they're releasing a patch soon and for you it might be worth waiting for. Everything else you're complaining about was present in the other games, so it's not nothing new. Uncharted as a series is heavily scripted, and I don't think there's anything wrong with that for what they're going for.
Gooster said:
And yeah, by the time I got so far into the game, aiming, melee, enemy AI... I was just used to it, and able to figure things out rather quickly. My second playthrough is going much smoother as well.
Meisadragon said:
Yes.
VeryGooster
Banned
Meisadragon said:
Yep.
The physical CD is out on the 15th, I believe.
For people having trouble with the AI... my strategy was always take out the nearest and enemy with the most threat to you first. IE, if someone has a grenade launcher, you'd better get rid of him first. Obviously next, would be the armored shotgun carrying enemies, followed by the normal ones. It's really not that difficult.
Of course it will.
Mikey Jr. said:
Of course it will.
VeryGooster
Banned
Mikey Jr. said:
Unkarted.
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Deleted member 30609
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I'm not convinced Naughty Dog will jump right back on the Uncharted-ship after the way they ended this game, coupled with the eensiest bit of franchise fatigue setting in. At least, I'm not sure there will be another one of these in 2013. Surely those guys have a bunch of other ideas that wouldn't fit into an Uncharted game ready to explode out of them, at this point.
Facism
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one of the things that really annoyed me in U3 was checkpoints at the start of fights. Sometimes they were just completely fucking unfair. The cruise ship for instance, once the lazer sighted tossers turn up on the upper balcony.
When i died, i had a MAG 5 and the ak-74u. When the game loaded the checkpoint, it gave me the para 5 and the sawn off shotty. I mean come the fuck on. Swarmed by armoured tossers with snipers watching over whilst carrying close range bollocks weapons.
When i died, i had a MAG 5 and the ak-74u. When the game loaded the checkpoint, it gave me the para 5 and the sawn off shotty. I mean come the fuck on. Swarmed by armoured tossers with snipers watching over whilst carrying close range bollocks weapons.
Facism said:
Yep, shit design is shit design.
Love how completely neutral players keep pouring in NOW and talk about the issues they have with the game with regular defenders like Kagari still making excuses for Naughty Dog. Look, I am a big fan of Sony and Naughty Dog as well and only own the PS3, but U3 really has some serious problems.
Listening to Uncharted 1's Nate's Theme now.. damn, it's a really romantic theme and the arrangement on the start menu of U3 doesn't measure up too.
Kenshin001
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Mikey Jr. said:
I'd like them to have a crack at an open world game. I think a GTA type UC set in a Central Asian city in the midst of a revolution would be cool, with different missions and objectives, exploration and puzzles to push the story, stealth and platforming to steal objects or obtain relics, combat, vehicles etc. You could have all the mechanics of an Uncharted game with more freedom. Would be a mammoth task though.
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That's the only track other than the main theme that I actually remember, and it's not there?!jett said:
(we're talking about the awesome chase music, right?)
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