Uncharted 4 review embargo lifts May 5 at 12 AM PST

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thuway

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I think Meta will most likely hing around 90-93. The main basis why:

There are too many reviewers with differing opinions on what constitutes a good game this generation. The major games that have focused on a cinematic story telling experience- the Order: 1886, Ryse: Son of Rome, and Quantum Break all fared poorly. I hope Uncharted breaks the trend.

Metacritic is more or less a gross exageration of what to expect out of a title, but I hope it brings out that critical reception and the "perfect" scores that we saw last generation. Cynicism and journalism is really dampening hardcore gaming and killing genres left and right.
 
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Why are you guys so obsessed over reviews and metacritic? It's not 2009 anymore for god's sake, wait until you can form your own opinion.
 
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thuway said:
I think Meta will most likely hing around 90-93. The main basis why:

There are too many reviewers with differing opinions on what constitutes a good game this generation. The major games that have focused on a cinematic story telling experience- the Order: 1886, Ryse: Son of Rome, and Quantum Break all fared poorly. I hope Uncharted breaks the trend.

Metacritic is more or less a gross exageration of what to expect out of a title, but I hope it brings out that critical reception and the "perfect" scores that we saw last generation. Cynicism and journalism is really dampening hardcore gaming and killing genres left and right.
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You are comparing ND to developers leagues below them...and yes that includes Remedy. ROTR is heavy on cinematic storytelling and the closest comparison to Uncharted 4 and it scored an 86(?). I don't think there is any widespread bias against games in this genre. There just haven't been many good releases so far.
 
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thuway said:
I think Meta will most likely hing around 90-93. The main basis why:

There are too many reviewers with differing opinions on what constitutes a good game this generation. The major games that have focused on a cinematic story telling experience- the Order: 1886, Ryse: Son of Rome, and Quantum Break all fared poorly. I hope Uncharted breaks the trend.

Metacritic is more or less a gross exageration of what to expect out of a title, but I hope it brings out that critical reception and the "perfect" scores that we saw last generation. Cynicism and journalism is really dampening hardcore gaming and killing genres left and right.
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I think most people asked for this, for reviews to be more critical and better using the full scale.

Ryse and The Order deserves their scores, QB seems little harsh but some guys here say it deserves it as well.

I do miss a nice big 95+ consensus though, don't know why, it's part of the fun in videogames to see a game you are anticipating scores a 96, but for the most part I think the changes in reviews this gen have been good.
 
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thuway said:
I think Meta will most likely hing around 90-93. The main basis why:

There are too many reviewers with differing opinions on what constitutes a good game this generation. The major games that have focused on a cinematic story telling experience- the Order: 1886, Ryse: Son of Rome, and Quantum Break all fared poorly. I hope Uncharted breaks the trend.

Metacritic is more or less a gross exageration of what to expect out of a title, but I hope it brings out that critical reception and the "perfect" scores that we saw last generation. Cynicism and journalism is really dampening hardcore gaming and killing genres left and right.
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Not just that, but it risks diminishing genre diversity in the AAA segment imo. We're already seeing examples of it, with more and more big games going the open world design direction. Even Uncharted 4 in a sense has been forced to adapt, with a more open linear direction. It's disappointing because I'm not a huge fan of open world design these days, I guess it's been so trendy this generation I've just burnt out on them. Not to mention I don't have that much time that I can keep playing 40-60+ hour open world games, most of which are highly repetitive and monotonous in nature.

I'm hoping Uncharted 4's balance will be a best of both worlds type compromise. Still linear, story driven and focused, but at the same time offering a bit more player freedom.
 
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Nev said:
Why are you guys so obsessed over reviews and metacritic? It's not 2009 anymore for god's sake, wait until you can form your own opinion.
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This. I don't understand why people would base their game choices on other people's opinions these days either. Reviews aren't what they used to be and half of them can't be trusted these days with their "paid for trips" and "goodie bags".

Chill. Play the game yourself.
 
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It's crazy this is out next week. I can't wait. Share button is going to take a beating.

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LostDonkey said:
This. I don't understand why people would base their game choices on other people's opinions these days either. Reviews aren't what they used to be and half of them can't be trusted these days with their "paid for trips" and "goodie bags".

Chill. Play the game yourself.
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I think most have already made up their minds about buying Uncharted 4. Wanting it to score high nothing to do with making a purchase decision...for me any way.
 
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nib95 said:
Not just that, but it risks diminishing genre diversity in the AAA segment imo. We're already seeing examples of it, with more and more big games going the open world design direction. Even Uncharted 4 in a sense has been forced to adapt, with a more open linear direction. It's disappointing because I'm not a huge fan of open world design these days, I guess it's been so trendy this generation I've just burnt out on them. Not to mention I don't have that much time that I can keep playing 40-60+ hour open world games, most of which are highly repetitive and monotonous in nature.

I'm hoping Uncharted 4's balance will be a best of both worlds type compromise. Still linear, story driven and focused, but at the same time offering a bit more player freedom.
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Well, it's not like any open world game scores big, The Division started strong but now it sits on 80, AC games are also getting much lower scores compared to last gen, latest Farcry also scored pretty low, Dying Light (considered by most as the best game made by Techland) scored only 74, Batman Arkham Knight is the lowest in the main series.

I think that open world is what the audience wants right now, most of the games I listed scored pretty low in videogames world but sold a LOT, so maybe the audience adjusted to scores being lower in general or they just don't listen to reviews as much they used to.

I agree with you that generally open world sucks (though I do love TW3 and Batman) but I'm not sure if reviewers are responsible for this trend, even though I agree there is a general feeling of linear game = not good design in videogames today.
 
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LostDonkey said:
This. I don't understand why people would base their game choices on other people's opinions these days either. Reviews aren't what they used to be and half of them can't be trusted these days with their "paid for trips" and "goodie bags".

Chill. Play the game yourself.
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You don't understand why people want to see reviews before they buy a £45 game?

Obviously we all know this will score well though
 
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Gurish said:
Well, it's not like any open world game scores big, The Division started strong but now it sits on 80, AC games are also getting much lower scores compared to last gen, latest Farcry also scored pretty low, Dying Light (considered by most as the best game made by Techland) scored only 74, Batman Arkham Knight is the lowest in the main series.

I think that open world is what the audience wants right now, most of the games I listed scored pretty low in videogames world but sold a LOT, so maybe the audience adjusted to scores being lower in general or they just don't listen to reviews as much they used to.

I agree with you that generally open world sucks (though I do love TW3 and Batman) but I'm not sure if reviewers are responsible for this trend, even though I agree there is a general feeling of linear game = not good design in videogames today.
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All these lower scoring games took an open world approach too. Ratchet has done extremely well and it's a linear experience. Tw3 is still my favourite openworld released so far I think and has reviewed well but it's backed with compelling story and excellent expansion model. Batman I enjoyed and the tank section seemed cool... But then I discovered that was the rest of the game mostly, so no surprised it reviewed weaker. FC:primal, well that has no story at all compared to previous games. I think the weak element in openworld this gen is a decent storyline component to accompany the compelling environment around you. There's still a place for linear titles, just noone choosing to make them when they see the $$$$ for season pass content or dlc money.
 
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Gurish said:
Oh you are right, forgot about it.

Why you are amazed by U2's MC? if Skyrim and other games reached it (again last gen it wasn't rare to get 90+, and it was more possible to get 95+ as well) than Uncharted 2 is surely deserves it as well.
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I'm not saying it didn't deserve it, it's the fact that a linear shooter managed to score that high is very impressive, I think UC2 is the probably the last of its kind to do so.
 
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Nev said:
Why are you guys so obsessed over reviews and metacritic? It's not 2009 anymore for god's sake, wait until you can form your own opinion.
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Seriously, too many people hinge on review scores. It's fucking sad.

I think this will fall in the 88-92 range.
 
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Seriously, too many people hinge on review scores. It's fucking sad.

I think this will fall in the 88-92 range.
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I don't think a single person in this topic has said they are waiting on reviews to decide if they want to buy this game. Not sure where you people are coming from with that angle. I think it definitely had an effect on a game like Ratchet & Clank, but it doesn't apply here.
 
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Reviews matter...they usually tell a story... not all sales are a result of critical acclaim, but it's one of many variables that affect sales.

"Everyone that cares about SFV doesn't need x amount of SP content". Game releases, gets panned for being barebones...BOOM.
 
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thuway said:
I think Meta will most likely hing around 90-93. The main basis why:

There are too many reviewers with differing opinions on what constitutes a good game this generation. The major games that have focused on a cinematic story telling experience- the Order: 1886, Ryse: Son of Rome, and Quantum Break all fared poorly. I hope Uncharted breaks the trend.

Metacritic is more or less a gross exageration of what to expect out of a title, but I hope it brings out that critical reception and the "perfect" scores that we saw last generation. Cynicism and journalism is really dampening hardcore gaming and killing genres left and right.
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yeah i agree. like ive said before, the game would have to be absolutely incredible for it to reach as high as 95 in 2016. im not sure if a linear, cinematic experience is what the majority of reviews like anymore.

game reviews have changed massively (for the better) since 2011, so itll be very interesting to see what happens with U4
 
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Review thread will be an absolute shitshow. I'm expecting better than 3, not as good an adventure as 2. Definitely not fully living up to expectations.

83 metacritic.
 
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thuway said:
I think Meta will most likely hing around 90-93. The main basis why:

There are too many reviewers with differing opinions on what constitutes a good game this generation. The major games that have focused on a cinematic story telling experience- the Order: 1886, Ryse: Son of Rome, and Quantum Break all fared poorly. I hope Uncharted breaks the trend.

Metacritic is more or less a gross exageration of what to expect out of a title, but I hope it brings out that critical reception and the "perfect" scores that we saw last generation. Cynicism and journalism is really dampening hardcore gaming and killing genres left and right.
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Couldn't disagree more.

This narrative that reviewers have gotten harsher has been built up by people who had anticipated games that failed to meet expectations. The truth is, those games just weren't very good.

I wish people would stop making excuses for this game just in case it doesn't meet expectations. If it's a great game the scores will reflect that. End of discussion.

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Review thread will be an absolute shitshow. I'm expecting better than 3, not as good an adventure as 2. Definitely not fully living up to expectations.

83 metacritic.
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Should read the impressions thread.
 
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I predict a 93+ metacritic score after the dust settles.
 
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