Uncharted 4 review embargo lifts May 5 at 12 AM PST

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I'm not sure if the reviews will be as perfect/glowing as I thought anymore. I've been playing for about 6 hours and I'm sure it gets much better, but what I've played so far is just good, but not mindblowing (well except the graphics are mindblowing). It takes a while longer to get to the "meat" of Uncharted gameplay, unlike U2, which has break-neck pacing from the first 5 minutes, and I think this may influence some reviewers.

Uncharted 2 doesn't get good until Nepal. Nothing close to breakneck. It is the same for The Last of Us as well. The first couple hours are..... not great.
 
the breakneck pacing of UC2, where the first hour of the game is about sneaking into a museum, and the second is "My First Uncharted Adventure" with Sully.

My first uncharted adventure with sully is pretty fun tho. tutorialing your way into the museum is slooooooow. Yeah game doesn't really start until you hit Nepal.
 
you should play UC2 again, sometimes

I literally played it 2 days ago up to the middle of Nepal.

You get rocket launchers and grenades and a density of action-packed gun fights sooner in U2 in comparison.

I admit 5-minutes was an exaggeration but U2 sets the treasure hunt into motion very very quickly compared to U4....
 
Even that doesnt make any sense, talking about the "meat" of the game.

I think some people have just misremebered what UC2 actually was. Like they remember the train and the helicopter and the tank and convoy, but they dont remember how setpiece free everything after the intro until, IDK, that 20 seconds in Nepal where you're running into the screen shooting in a Crash Bandicoot reference. Or after the train there's like a hour of Nate in the village and screwing around with a bunch of platforming/traversal with minimal action with Tenzin for a hour. Or there's a Monastery chapter late in the game without any plot or big set pieces, just a series of fights and traversal sections with Elena, until that one lame puzzle moving the boxes.
 
Even that doesnt make any sense, talking about the "meat" of the game.

I think some people have just misremebered what UC2 actually was. Like they remember the train and the helicopter and the tank and convoy, but they dont remember how setpiece free everything after the intro until, IDK, that 20 seconds in Nepal where you're running into the screen shooting in a Crash Bandicoot reference. Or after the train there's like a hour of Nate in the village and screwing around with a bunch of platforming/traversal with minimal action with Tenzin for a hour. Or there's a Monastery chapter late in the game without any plot or big set pieces, just a series of fights and traversal sections with Elena, until that one lame puzzle moving the boxes.

Thanks. Good post.
 
Even that doesnt make any sense, talking about the "meat" of the game.

I think some people have just misremebered what UC2 actually was. Like they remember the train and the helicopter and the tank and convoy, but they dont remember how setpiece free everything after the intro until, IDK, that 20 seconds in Nepal where you're running into the screen shooting in a Crash Bandicoot reference. Or after the train there's like a hour of Nate in the village and screwing around with a bunch of platforming/traversal with minimal action with Tenzin for a hour. Or there's a Monastery chapter late in the game without any plot or big set pieces, just a series of fights and traversal sections with Elena, until that one lame puzzle moving the boxes.

Just curious, have you played U4 yet? I don't really want to risk getting into impressions that might feel too specific here so I will refrain.

I'm having trouble quantifying the pace between the two. I'll just go ahead and try to finish the game first before fussing further over the overall pacing.

I just think the first few hours of U4 are slower than U2, and I think some reviewers will notice that.
 
Terrible terrible comment, this is why we can't have nice things.

You should embrace this review model so you know way before the games comes out how good or bad they are and you can judge it and make your decisions without having to be spoiled.
Having a screenshots embargo does literally zero to help with that. Its just dumb, especially with all the footage ND already released of the game so far
"We dont want spoilers" my ass
 
I think this is going to score the same as Metal Gear 5. A 93. The story is not as good as Last Of Us and the gameplay isn't quite Metal Gear. Also, in certain chapters there seems to be a bit of padding in the game that effects the pacing.

That's a plus for me then cos MGS5 gameplay was not for me - extremely repetitive I thought.
 
Having a screenshots embargo does literally zero to help with that. Its just dumb, especially with all the footage ND already released of the game so far
"We dont want spoilers" my ass

Sony knows what has been released so far, and they don't want anything else about it spoiled before release. It would work well, if so many people didn't have stolen or broken release date copies out in the wild atm.
 
I fear that this will get low 80s to high 70s. Just cause I feel like reviews have been a tad harsher this gen... But I feel like if my expectations are low, than it will surpass it.

I feel like ive seen this in every thread now where the games actually turn out to score better than expectations
Ratchet and Clank being the most recent example

So this is a good omen guys.
 
Sony knows what has been released so far, and they don't want anything else about it spoiled before release. It would work well, if so many people didn't have stolen or broken release date copies out in the wild atm.
Put in the embargo that you can only take screenshots of a certain part or scene. This is not a strange new concept and its done all the time. Not allowing any non-official screenshots until release is shitty.
Really weird to see people trying to spin this as a good thing. If it was a Ubisoft game there would be a shitstorm.
 
Put in the embargo that you can only take screenshots of a certain part or scene. This is not a strange new concept and its done all the time. Not allowing any non-official screenshots until release is shitty.

What is the big deal? Why do you need new pictures? If you are that desperate to see something new I'm sure you can find it outside of reviews with all the leaked copies out there. Otherwise you are making a stink over nothing.

Edit: You are being completely irrational. No point in trying to reason with you.
 
Put in the embargo that you can only take screenshots of a certain part or scene. This is not a strange new concept and its done all the time. Not allowing any non-official screenshots until release is shitty.
Really weird to see people trying to spin this as a good thing. If it was a Ubisoft game there would be a shitstorm.

I don't see it as a good or bad thing. I know the game looks good, I don't need to see new images personally, I'd rather see them in the game.

With Ubisoft we'd be wondering about how big the downgrade is ATM, that's why there would be a shitstorm.
 
I think I'm the only one who loved the museum part of Uncharted 2. I loved everything about it, even on multiple playthroughs. Maybe it was the banter which was awesome.

Flynn was a great character.
 
I think I'm the only one who loved the museum part of Uncharted 2. I loved everything about it, even on multiple playthroughs. Maybe it was the banter which was awesome.

Flynn was a great character.

Same. Plus the convo they have leading up to it, the sewers, the escape, the capture and that hilarious prison scene. Just great. Sets the tone well with a heist type opener, that eases you in gently and provides a mellower pace.
 
Same. Plus the convo they have leading up to it, the sewers, the escape, the capture and that hilarious prison scene. Just great. Sets the tone well with a heist type opener, that eases you in gently and provides a mellower pace.

Indeed. I just love how ND tackles the first quarter of their games, specially since Uncharted.
 
I just started UC2 and played through the section you all are talking about. I liked it. The character interaction was cool and funny. It also set everything up nicely.
 
I think I'm the only one who loved the museum part of Uncharted 2. I loved everything about it, even on multiple playthroughs. Maybe it was the banter which was awesome.

Flynn was a great character.

Same. Plus the convo they have leading up to it, the sewers, the escape, the capture and that hilarious prison scene. Just great. Sets the tone well with a heist type opener, that eases you in gently and provides a mellower pace.

Indeed. I just love how ND tackles the first quarter of their games, specially since Uncharted.

I am with the both of you as well.
 
Put in the embargo that you can only take screenshots of a certain part or scene. This is not a strange new concept and its done all the time. Not allowing any non-official screenshots until release is shitty.
Really weird to see people trying to spin this as a good thing. If it was a Ubisoft game there would be a shitstorm.

If they did such a thing, there would be no chapter in which we could take screens from. You'll see screens and video footage on Monday morning. Enjoy reviews tomorrow, enjoy your weekend, and then watch new footage on Monday.
 
What is the big deal? Why do you need new pictures? If you are that desperate to see something new I'm sure you can find it outside of reviews with all the leaked copies out there. Otherwise you are making a stink over nothing.

Edit: You are being completely irrational. No point in trying to reason with you.
Lmao, I am the being irrational? Now that's precious. I know some of you are fanboying hard, but there isn't a single excuse you can come up with to now allow any non-official screenshots whatsoever. Its a shitty practice and should be called out as such. The only reason people are glossing over it and making crappy excuses is because its a ND game.

If they did such a thing, there would be no chapter in which we could take screens from. You'll see screens and video footage on Monday morning. Enjoy reviews tomorrow, enjoy your weekend, and then watch new footage on Monday.
But there would be?
 
Lmao, I am the being irrational? Now that's precious. I know some of you are fanboying hard, but there isn't a single excuse you can come up with to now allow any non-official screenshots whatsoever. Its a shitty practice and should be called out as such. The only reason people are glossing over it and making crappy excuses is because its a ND game.


But there would be?

Sony & ND have shared bits of footage from chapters, but never a full chapter. It would be a pain in the ass for Sony to dictate specific points of a chapter - like jeep driving, and it would only open the door to tons of leaked footage. This way they regulate it and then open the door for footage sharing on Monday.
 
Lmao, I am the being irrational? Now that's precious. I know some of you are fanboying hard, but there isn't a single excuse you can come up with to now allow any non-official screenshots whatsoever. Its a shitty practice and should be called out as such. The only reason people are glossing over it and making crappy excuses is because its a ND game.


But there would be?

What is so shitty about it? I seriously don't understand why you need new images tomorrow.
 
Sony & ND have shared bits of footage from chapters, but never a full chapter. It would be a pain in the ass for Sony to dictate specific points of a chapter - like jeep driving, and it would only open the door to tons of leaked footage. This way they regulate it and then open the door for footage sharing on Monday.
Once again: they could regulate it just fine. Embargos have been able to be highly specific and it seems to have worked just fine before this. It won't lead to anymore leaked footage that will happen regardless one way or the other.

What is so shitty about it? I seriously don't understand why you need new images tomorrow.

You don't see why only oficial screenshots being allowed to be shared before release is shitty?
 
Once again: they could regulate it just fine. Embargos have been able to be highly specific and it seems to have worked just fine before this. It won't lead to anymore leaked footage that will happen regardless one way or the other.

How would it work? Explain to me how you would regulate the content of each chapter and dictate what can be shown.
 
How would it work? Explain to me how you would regulate the content of each chapter and dictate what can be shown.

Those websites sign an agreement saying that they can only share so much footage until launch. "Only record chapter X to Y" and stuff. This is quite usual for games with such high level of story spoilers.
 
So, I took my way home from work to assess all your predictions.

Well, we have a clear trend:

Altogether, I counted 139 predictions. If someone for example predicted 90-94, I took the average (92). I did not incorporate predictions like "below 90" or "between 75 or 100", though.

Okay, long story short, here are the results of my little survey:

n=139
mean=92,5
median=93,5
max=99
min=77
Top 3 mentions:
94: 32
95: 28
93: 15

In less than 12 hours we'll know how good NeoGAF is at predicting :).
 
How would it work? Explain to me how you would regulate the content of each chapter and dictate what can be shown.

You can make screenshots of this section, this section and this section over here. You are allowed to show this and this, no more than that.


Wow that was hard. Lets not pretend the game is a abstract piece of art where you can't somehow notice the different sections of it.



This has been done countless times without issues man, its not Rocket science.


There won't be any vídeo reviews before release and no non-official screenshots, and thats indeed shitty. No two ways about it.
 
Those websites sign an agreement saying that they can only share so much footage until launch. "Only record chapter X to Y" and stuff. This is quite usual for games with such high level of story spoilers.

And when Chapter 1 has content they don't want shown, what then? There isn't some fucking conspiracy to hide the game from people. The game is a narrative driven game and Sony doesn't want story content being shown in clips ahead of release. It's pretty damn simple.

You can make screenshots of this section, this section and this section over here. You are allowed to show this and this, no more than that.

Wow that was hard. Lets not pretend the game is a abstract piece of art where you can't somehow notice the different sections of it.
It's not that simple. You can show "Environment X in Chapter Y, but only in this one corner and not that bookshelf because it has story elements." That's a mess. Easier to deny the privilege to any screens being taken.
 
Once again: they could regulate it just fine. Embargos have been able to be highly specific and it seems to have worked just fine before this. It won't lead to anymore leaked footage that will happen regardless one way or the other.



You don't see why only oficial screenshots being allowed to be shared before release is shitty?

I thought the embargo for media would end on Monday? Even it is Tuesday we still got the reviews early so no I don't see a problem.
 
Once again: they could regulate it just fine. Embargos have been able to be highly specific and it seems to have worked just fine before this. It won't lead to anymore leaked footage that will happen regardless one way or the other.



You don't see why only oficial screenshots being allowed to be shared before release is shitty?

Game comes out Tuesday, watch the footage on Monday, your making the biggest deal out of something that is a non deal.
 
Bernardo, I heard some reviewer bitch about "this part you can show and this you can't" approach of publishers.
Being able to show at least some parts until certain date > being able to show absolutely until certain date

And when Chapter 1 has content they don't want shown, what then? There isn't some fucking conspiracy to hide the game from people. The game is a narrative driven game and Sony doesn't want story content being shown in clips ahead of release. It's pretty damn simple.
Once again, they can define what they allow from chapter 1 to be shown. Once again, its not a abstract picture.
 
I think it is fair to regulate what you can take screen for review of not.

I don't want my experience being spoiled.

Every publisher/dev needs to make embargos more clear of what can show or not... it is the best.
 
Also, who's on the fence for buying this ? I mean, come on. I wish I could erase everything from my brain and still would buy this day one without even having seen footage of it. It's Naughty Dog.
 
Metacritic should only register the perfect scores and terminate the rogues.

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Seriously. UC2 takes a while to get going. Climbing the train, lots of cutscenes, the platformimg and climbing in the sewers etc. You definitely aren't getting right into the action.
Every Uncharted has been slow to start. You don't even get into your first gunfight in Uncharted 3 until chapter 4 or 5. The first Uncharted starts with a gunfight, but you don't get into another for several chapters. And then of coarse Uncharted 2 like you mentioned. Its strange that people think the previous Uncharted games are wall to wall action.
 
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