I think you can shortcut droids after learning some electricity spells. I haven't tried it myself though because I've learned it after I completed the section.
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I think you can shortcut droids after learning some electricity spells. I haven't tried it myself though because I've learned it after I completed the section.
Moff
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that's right, it only shortcuits them for one round, though, and its a very expensive spell. and even then, you can't enter ventilation shafts while in combat so you need to fight them either way once they see you. there aren't doors or exits everywhere either. and then come more droids, more stun grenades etc.
are there many sections like that in the future? because if yes I will stop now and maybe restart later with a stealth character
i have both a steam controller and xbox1 controller for my gaming pc
think steam controller would do the trick? might pick up this game today
bati
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That's why I always carry some dex food with me on 3 dex builds
. Lockpicking is one of those skills I never skip.I don't think so, it's a PC game through and through, especially in the UI department, which means lots of small precise mouse movements in the inventory. I don't know if I'd be willing to submit myself to gamepad torture, even though the game is spectacular.
Not really. You can easily go loud in the GMS compound, I always kill those robots. Note that you can abuse their AI if you're in a pickle, they don't have hands so you can slam the door in their face (if they had a face). You should have enough AP to open the door, fire once and close the door again.
You need to buy EMP Grenades... if that's not possible, just evade them.
Just a precaution about the rest of the game though: stealth is definitely a must if your build isn't meant for direct combat. You may have to restart, unfortunately, since the game is very unforgiving.
Just played this for two hours. I'm genuinely impressed when you spend like 30-minutes on character creation, you know are in for a good role-playing game.
Currently playing a build with a focus on stealth, pistols, lockpicking/traps/hacking etc. Seems to be working well so far. Excited and keen to play more.
The atmosphere is so good, and it accurately captures the "fallout" experience better than Bethesda ever did.
Currently playing a build with a focus on stealth, pistols, lockpicking/traps/hacking etc. Seems to be working well so far. Excited and keen to play more.
The atmosphere is so good, and it accurately captures the "fallout" experience better than Bethesda ever did.
Moff
Member
shortly after that passage I found a decent 9mm gun and robots are no longer a problem.
but those first few robot passages are still very tough, EMPs and closing doors don't help a lot because you are still in combat, and while you are in combat you cannot use trap doors or ventilation shafts.
after 10 hours now I have to say that this is an absolutely excellent game.
as another poster said earlier, this game is not really a fallout, it's much better. this is a straight up 2D Deus Ex.
and it works incredibly good. the level design is absolutely outstandig. i don't think I have ever seen level design like that in 2d. the way the different levels and sections are connected and can be accessed through lockpicking/hacking/ventilation shafts is really impressive.
I really hope this is a success and the developer can do more games like that, maybe in a different setting.
loganclaws
Plane Escape Torment
I just want to say that this game is so so so good. It has that "magic" ingredient that makes you want to explore the world and the game rewards the player's exploration in an amazing way. I wish we had more games like this. I am 36 hours in and have yet to visit any of the major locations aside from Junkyard.
Vlodril
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My usual way is stepping on them
(i don't think so unless youo can get some food or items that raise your perception maybe).The Illiterati
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I picked this up. I want to go Stealth/knives/social. Lockpicking and hacking to go along with it. Is this possible? Alternately is a total social build viable?
Pancakes
hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
You're going to have a really bad time doing that. And no, you need combat skills in this game.
Moff
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I'd say social are by far the points I wasted the most.
I am not going to say it's useless, but it's not worth it.
first of all it's two skills: persuasion and intimidate, so twice the points.
but occasions are very rare and it doesn't feel like it changes alot, maybe you can skip a small fight.
but the worst thing, although I alwasy put the maximum allowed points in both persuasion and intimdate, and I have 10 of the synergy base stat willpower, both social skills only work about half of the time.
it's trash.
definitely pick up lockpicking instead
loganclaws
Plane Escape Torment
Dexterity and perception are very important stats for almost any character build, don't neglect. Strength and endurance are least important.
As a PSI build, reload after you step on one and then throw a fireball/grenade at it >_>
that's lame. really they should have put some sort of psychic prediction spell.
There are goggles that spot traps.
The Illiterati
Member
Alright, stealth and knives it is. Thanks!
This does disappoint me a bit, since I might have imagined a game where I could largely avoid combat (Deus Ex style) and/or talk my way through situations. There are too many games where combat is forced I feel like.
I have goggles that increase perception, but I've read that there is also goggles that increase detection - is that it?
bati
Member
Yes. Goggles come in the following variants:
- increases perception by 1
- increases detection by XX%
- increases critical chance with ranged weapons by XX% (looks like 15% is cap)
- increases damage with special attacks (basically anything that shows up when you press F key) by XX%
All of them also come with a huge downside, -25% to dodge skill. If this is your dump skill then it's not really a downside.
You can avoid nearly all combat with stealth. It really is a 2d Deus Ex game.
I've increased traps skill to 20, put the goggles on and the fucker still can't see shit. Figures, he is almost blind with perception set to 3. So I was wondering if I should dump all my points from current level up into traps it just purge them with fire but such way misses the point of my stealth build. I really hate traps.
AndyMoogle
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Another hotfix was released a few hours ago.
loganclaws
Plane Escape Torment
Agreed, though do keep in mind that this game was in development for a very very long time.
Started over to rebuild a more focused character. Went with Nerd Commando's Scientist Build.
Hopefully the build pays off sooner than later.
Hopefully the build pays off sooner than later.
bati
Member
Don't forget that it sells for 15 bucks. I felt like I robbed the developer when I bought the game in EA for 8 euros so I bought a few copies for my friends to compensate. Best value for my money in a long time when it comes to RPGs.
Oh hm, you may be bugged.
After you finish about the 6th round or so of the Arena, the Ogliarchs are supposed to approach you with more missions.
Pancakes
hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
Fighting psionic enemies later in the game is incredibly obnoxious. The basically destroy your health pool in one rotation thanks to mental breakdown and subsequent thought control spells. Balance is very strange in the this game.
Is there a way to disengage from combat or reset the situation instead of temporarily when loading into another area? The first (very early spoilers)
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stealth section in GMS was pretty annoying since getting caught once basically meant the floor was eternally fucked because I had nothing to reliably kill robots
loganclaws
Plane Escape Torment
Yes, you can break line of sight by turning a corner and then re-stealth. There is even an achievement for it.
I guess enemies are aware of your last known position then? I tried running around a corner to re-stealth, (I hit stealth when I couldn't see them anymore) but they still seemed to know exactly where I was and even flanked me.
But other than trying to re-stealth is there any way to reset a floor or will they always instantly aggro if you re-enter and area where you have retreated from during combat? It's annoying that even if you enter a zone stealthed they will instantly break it.
Figured it out, I had to learn about the Acid Hunters from Buzzer before it triggered.
Just add a fabric to the optional slot for leather/riot armor or tactical vests.
bati
Member
If you get far enough and successfully hide for ~2-3 turns they'll lose sight of you.
Oddity or bust, makes exploration soo much more fun.
autoduelist
Member
Oddity experience sounds like a very unique and interesting potential solution to common rpg progression problems. I very much like it, in theory, at least.
Even for heavy combat based builds? I plan on killing everything and using lock picking a lot
Guess I need to get that stealth movement point feat then.
Unless by that you mean you'll be avoiding looking through lockers and what not, you'll be fine. Oddities also drop off enemies so combat isn't completely divorced from levelling.
Yup, it's the way it's supposed to be played AFAIK. It includes enemies, for some you need to go out of your way to collect their oddities and other bits.
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