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United Airlines violently drags a doctor off a plane so employee could take his seat
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Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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This is an important distinction. I'm baffled at how many people here think every opinion is a binary control tactic on the world at large. I can know I wouldn't have done this in that situation while believing that this shouldn't happen to people, regardless of their own behavior.
FinaruDensetsu
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Well there is some for the police for sure. You can see that there were two other police officers there who didn't go to those drastic measures, but the third alpha male officer decided I'm gonna be the hero.
Any Questions
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Nope. Violence totally not acceptable.
bloodydrake
Cool Smoke Luke
No its "On a Plane" order must be maintained.
I couldn't care less what happened at the intersection of a street someone sits down and protests that's different.
He literally did nothing. He was just fucking sitting there.
can't wait for your future where you're cool with armed security cams merking people for holding up a mcdonald's line
guybrushfreeman
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Order was not maintained. A person was physically assaulted
I mean, you seem to just be empirically wrong. You've granted that this was quite possibly the best course of action available to the guy.
If the specific thing he's being asked to do is beside the point, then it seems like you should be able to come up with reasons why complying in all cases is obligatory that don't lean heavily on analogies to situations where the airline has a good reason to make a request and compliance is cheap.
Skellig Gra
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Dat economy plus upgrade.
bloodydrake
Cool Smoke Luke
the difference is "on a plane" i agree with authoritarianism while on a plane ...probably on a sub too for that matter.
spirit hasnt failed me yet
Thebeardofknowledge
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Fuck united and fuck anyone victim blaming.
100%TrophyMaster
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I can't believe people are defending the airline. Ridiculous situation and United looks like shit for this.
guybrushfreeman
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Apparently not though. You're perfectly comfortable with a random (literally random) person being physically assaulted on a plane
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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This makes no sense. Does this apply to all enclosed spaces where one could abuse their power?
You can pay extra so you don't have a risk of being forcibly volunteered off the plane.
The people defending UA have probably never worked in corporate America before, or don't understand how it works. United Airlines doesn't care who's right or wrong. All they care about right now is mitigating the liability and PR damage as fast as they can. Their legal team most likely have the settlement drafts ready to go, and are prepared for significant counter offers by the doctor and his attorney.
If you're arguing that the doctor was at fault, then you're missing the point, or you're just arguing to argue. It's not about who's at fault. UA knows they're liable while the doctor was on their plane. They also know that they are getting crucified in the court of public opinion. This is all about moving to settlement as quickly as possible for them.
What you'll see afterwards are things like mandatory refresher customer service training driven from UA corporate, review of incentive practices to encourage passengers to deplane, escalation management training, etc.
If you're arguing that the doctor was at fault, then you're missing the point, or you're just arguing to argue. It's not about who's at fault. UA knows they're liable while the doctor was on their plane. They also know that they are getting crucified in the court of public opinion. This is all about moving to settlement as quickly as possible for them.
What you'll see afterwards are things like mandatory refresher customer service training driven from UA corporate, review of incentive practices to encourage passengers to deplane, escalation management training, etc.
perineumlick
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You do realize that the airline created the chaos don't you? The passenger wasn't breaking any rules, or causing any disruption. He was physically manhandled off of a plane that he paid to ride without violating any of it's rules. What the fuck bro?
"They bought their tickets! They knew what they were getting in to! I say, let 'em [get their face busted up by the cops for staying seated]."
Royce McCutcheon
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As a black man, I'm not surprised at all, same story new faces
FinaruDensetsu
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He submits to it because his safety is paramount above all else. Like I said these kinds of defenses stem from cowardice.
Lan Dong Mik
And why would I want them?
Goddamn that shit is not cool.
How much do you guys think he's gonna he's going to get from United in the inevitable lawsuit? 100 mil or so? Fuck United, hopefully they go bankrupt.
How much do you guys think he's gonna he's going to get from United in the inevitable lawsuit? 100 mil or so? Fuck United, hopefully they go bankrupt.
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Vilix
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Coming soon:
Now that's what makes good television.
guybrushfreeman
Unconfirmed Member
What the fuck? Of course he's a fucking victim. Have you even seen the photos? Not a victim? Jesus fuck me christ
How about walking down the street?
Could I interest you in a fully taxpayer paid vacation to Rikers Island, citizen?
FinaruDensetsu
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That he's fine with because he's not stuck in a plane with that person where perhaps his convenience or safety will be affected.
Dash_Riprock
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Welcome to Trump's America, GAF.
guybrushfreeman
Unconfirmed Member
It should've never involved law enforcement to begin with. Yes, it's still physical assault when law enforcement does it too
CherryWoodFuton
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Dude just posted that the passenger deserved to get his lip bloodied because he didn't give up his seat
I can't
I can't
poppedcollar69
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ummm maybe united could have bought it's employees airfare on another airline's flight if they couldn't find volunteers???
Shouta
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https://twitter.com/kaylyn_davis/status/851471574385307648
Don't know if it's been posted but seriously, fuck United for this. This is indefensible.
Don't know if it's been posted but seriously, fuck United for this. This is indefensible.
Glass Shark
Banned
What the fuck does this even mean
guybrushfreeman
Unconfirmed Member
Anyone defending this needs to look at that. No one deserves that because of an overbooked flight. There was so many other options. This is just horrifying
Every time I see such ridiculous posts like the ones from "bloodyshame" I start typing, but them I just give up, people are just stupid.
perineumlick
Member
How about the airline finding other accommodations for their employees without physically assaulting paying customers? How many cowards do we have in here that would stand for this behavior? Wow.
Audioboxer
Member
Probably spend a good bit of time and patience explaining over and over the plane isn't going anywhere till you leave and we may have to remove you if you don't comply. If you want a "reasonable" response to your question. Not go quickly to dragging people up aisles. This isn't a bouncer ejecting a rowdy drunk off a plane.
However, this is precisely why the airline should just have backed down instead of gritting their teeth and chalked this passenger up to someone it's more hassle than it's worth to deem as randomly selected. Eventually another 2 passengers would probably have begrudgingly accepted being picked if the message from the airline was repeated over and over that the plane isn't taking off till 4 people accept compensation and leave.
It's the airlines fault so delays on the run way and penalties the airport might charge them for that are their responsibility to pay. The time taken to have people leave by choice or leave by being picked is for the airline to shoulder. No one should ever be dragged off a plane unless they are violent/drunk/etc. Even then there is a responsibility not to hurt them.
RoninChaos
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The thing that bugs me the most is I think in any other situation other people would have stood up to try and stop this. But nobody is trying that shit on an airplane because they'll just get labeled as a terrorist. The fact that we have some clowns on here arguing for the right to use force is even crazier. United wanted this man off the plane so they could bring in 4 united employees that were needed for another flight. It wasn't cause this guy had a bomb or was threatening the passengers. This happened because United couldn't coordinate getting 4 of their employees some where else and they called the cops who fucked this guy up because they failed to plan accordingly. Anyone defending this needs to take a long look in the mirror and realize "hey, I'm an asshole".
bloodydrake
Cool Smoke Luke
I'm saying who gets to decide on the plane whats a justifiable reason or a good reason? The pilot and crew who are responsible? or a passenger?
Its irreverent if the passenger didn't like the idea..they chose him and made a decision his best option was to get off the plane of his own accord.
I guess they could have just cancelled the flight and had everyone leave the plane then said..."just kidding you can all come back on...except him." That might have worked out better in retrospect but he was still wrong for not listening to the Police tell him to get up and leave or they would force him to.
Planes are different and special places where might does make right. But only planes and any additional arbitrary places I name in the next few posts!
Disoriented and repeating himself, hit to head must been nasty :/
TimHortons
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$800 to NOT fly to Kentucky? No volunteers?
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