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Hizdahr presumably wanted to poison Denearys, and open Mareen to slavery again. She made a poor judgemet call to marry him, but she did it for the people. But i still think it´s a very bad judgement call.

Why would Hizdahr poison Dany when she just agreed to peace and it was achieved. The actual poisoner is probably the Shavepate, who when Danerys married Hizdahr, was stripped of his position, and could gain the most from this. Hizdahr also suggested the locusts right in front of Ser Barristan and others, it is a sloppy plan, put together fast. The Shavepate also controls the Brazen Beasts, as was said by him when he and Barristan form a coup. The Brazen Beasts were the ones guarding Dany that day.

I am going to note, that these are not my original thoughts, but of someone else's that put a lot of time and effort into. It's called Untangling the Meereenese Knot. I am going to provide a link for you, because it makes a lot of sense, especially on a re-read.

http://meereeneseblot.wordpress.com/essays/

 

[PHOENIXZERO]

Yeah, Hizzy is likely a not the one behind it and there'll be a misdirect with Grandpa Smelly being played like a mark.

 

[Euron]

All the Northern stuff is really good. And I actually really like the Dany plot with the exception of Daario, after reading that Meereenese Blot blog. The Tyrion and Quentyn travels through Essos are really what drag it down, and I say that as someone who really liked Brienne's travels Feast. The Essos stuff just sort of felt like GRRM wrote up all the world building stuff and felt like he had to throw it in somewhere.

Daznak's Pit is an awesome chapter. I can't wait to see it play out on screen. The show generally adapts big moments from the books pretty faithfully and in some instances even improves them.

ADWD could have been my favorite book in the series had the climaxes made it in. I really feel like the Battle of Winterfell, needs to happen on screen before Jon's Assassination for the pink letter to make sense to most show watchers.

If it is indeed true that (Possible TWOW Spoilers)

Spoiler

Stannis defeats the Freys using the frozen lake and then fakes his own death

I can imagine that happening in episode 9 or 10 this season. And since the show needs a bigger location for a "battle in the snow" this may actually happen.

 

[CassSept]

thats mentioned in ADWD though, davos is on his way to look for him on skagos.

Well, implied, it's never said outright that Rickon is at Skagos so that's possible he could have missed it.

 

[NeoGiff]

Dear god go back and read the first 3 books. You missed a lot.

This this this this THIS!

 

[Iksenpets]

Why would Hizdahr poison Dany when she just agreed to peace and it was achieved. The actual poisoner is probably the Shavepate, who when Danerys married Hizdahr, was stripped of his position, and could gain the most from this. Hizdahr also suggested the locusts right in front of Ser Barristan and others, it is a sloppy plan, put together fast. The Shavepate also controls the Brazen Beasts, as was said by him when he and Barristan form a coup. The Brazen Beasts were the ones guarding Dany that day.

I am going to note, that these are not my original thoughts, but of someone else's that put a lot of time and effort into. It's called Untangling the Meereenese Knot. I am going to provide a link for you, because it makes a lot of sense, especially on a re-read.

http://meereeneseblot.wordpress.com/essays/

Yep, Hizdahr is just the fall guy. I don't even think the poisoning was intended to kill. Belwas may be a big dude, but he ate a whole plateful of the things. That is not a deadly poison. I think Skahaz fully intended for Dany to survive so that she would destroy Hizdahr's family and the other major houses in retaliation, leaving the Shavepate as the strongest guy left standing in Meereen.

I'm going to miss Skahaz in the show. He blends into the background on a first reading of the book, but that's sort of the point. I think he's one of the stronger new characters of the last two books.

This this this this THIS!

He needs to see how different book!Stannis is from show!Stannis in the earlier books so he can fix his Stannis opinion.

 

[NeoGiff]

He needs to see how different book!Stannis is from show!Stannis in the earlier books so he can fix his Stannis opinion.

Yep. The comment that our man Stan is still influenced by Melisandre set off all the alarms in my head.

 

[WaffleTaco]

Yea I am wondering how they are going to set that up, unless they just say Hizdahr did it in the show.

 

[Szeth]

He needs to see how different book!Stannis is from show!Stannis in the earlier books so he can fix his Stannis opinion.

If someone didn't like book Stannis post ASoS I highly doubt the first three books would change their minds. Can't wait for Stannis to die so I can laugh at the internet and their weird love of him.

 

[Brazil]

Where is Rickon Stark? What happened to him? I only read books 4 and 5, last i saw him on the show he was with Bran long time ago.

Jesus Christ you people.

 

[NeoGiff]

Can't wait for Stannis Jaime to die so I can laugh at the internet and their weird love of him.

Spoiler

I love Jaime too.

 

[MrPing1000]

Gilly and Samwell were having dinner in a restaurant I was in tonight (in Belfast).

I have never seen or read GoT. My cousin was excited though.

 

[Brazil]

Gilly and Samwell were having dinner in a restaurant I was in tonight (in Belfast).

I have never seen or read GoT. My cousin was excited though.

They're probably at it right now.

 

[Incandenza]

Gilly and Samwell were having dinner in a restaurant I was in tonight (in Belfast).

I have never seen or read GoT. My cousin was excited though.

Did they say anything about masts or swamps?

 

[ZeroRay]

Looks like he's taking a page out of his fake buddy, Kit's book.

 

[WaffleTaco]

Looks like he's taking a page out of his fake buddy, Kit's book.

Fake buddy?

 

[ZeroRay]

During season 1, the actor who played Jon hung around and became friends with John Bradley just so he could play his character better. Kit then proceeded to date Rose Leslie and then broke up prior to season 4 airing.

There was a video where John Bradley talked about it. Pretty funny.

 

[kirblar]

Gilly/Sam are on their own little adventure in S5, unless they deviate massively from the books, so them eating along makes sense.

 

[Kola]

Hotel Belvedere

Been there last week by coincidence. The job HBO did was amazing. In stark contrast to the grandezza of the surrounding towns and villages of the Dalmatian coastline, this is now - once again - such a desolate, wrecked place you can't imagine they were shooting at this venue. Squatters and stray cats occupy parts of the hotel, windows are broken in, a few days earlier someone hanged himself there...

 

[RedShift]

Does anyone have any good GoT Miis? When Smash Bros comes out I'm pretty much going to turn it into a Smash of Ice and Fire.

Going to play as Robb and have the sword fight with Joffrey that should have been

They're probably at it right now.

Fat

Pink

Mast

 

[CassSept]

Fat

Pink

Mast

 

[Kyougar]

Does anyone have any good GoT Miis? When Smash Bros comes out I'm pretty much going to turn it into a Smash of Ice and Fire.

Going to play as Robb and have the sword fight with Joffrey that should have been



Fat

Pink

Mast

 

[NeoGiff]

That's more of a skinny brown crossbeam.

 

[Valhelm]

Yep, Hizdahr is just the fall guy. I don't even think the poisoning was intended to kill. Belwas may be a big dude, but he ate a whole plateful of the things. That is not a deadly poison. I think Skahaz fully intended for Dany to survive so that she would destroy Hizdahr's family and the other major houses in retaliation, leaving the Shavepate as the strongest guy left standing in Meereen.

I'm going to miss Skahaz in the show. He blends into the background on a first reading of the book, but that's sort of the point. I think he's one of the stronger new characters of the last two books.



He needs to see how different book!Stannis is from show!Stannis in the earlier books so he can fix his Stannis opinion.

The poison was absolutely meant to kill somebody. Strong Belwas almost died, but he's enormous. As Daenerys is probably less than half his weight, that quantity of locusts would certainly kill her.

Personally, I'm of the mind that Galazza Galare poisoned the locusts. This Reddit post is pretty rudimentary, but gives a good run-down of why the Green Grace seems to not be working in Dany's interests. Given her aristocratic associations, she intends to restore the standing of the Masters.

 

[PhoenixDark]

The fact that Selmy knows he's horrible at the game tells me he's making a huge fuck up. Dunno if the Shavepate is the Harpy (I think it's the Green Grace) but I definitely think he is tricking Selmy. The Brazen Beasts are manning the walls of Meereen while the Unsullied are lined up alongside the walls. Seems like it would be very easy for the Brazen Beasts to annihilate them by dumping hot oil from the walls...and if they were to shut the gates, Barristan and his army would be locked outside the city and flanked.

 

[Forkball]

The poison was absolutely meant to kill somebody. Strong Belwas almost died, but he's enormous. As Daenerys is probably less than half his weight, that quantity of locusts would certainly kill her.

Personally, I'm of the mind that Galazza Galare poisoned the locusts. This Reddit post is pretty rudimentary, but gives a good run-down of why the Green Grace seems to not be working in Dany's interests. Given her aristocratic associations, she intends to restore the standing of the Masters.

Green Grace is certainly the Harpy. It makes too much sense. She can easily have discourse with both sides, and symbolically she is an interesting inversion of Dany. The Masters are all men who oppress others, but here we have a woman who abides by their morals. Has she been cast on the show? Just get the actress who played Olenna to play her, she's not doing anything right now.

 

[Real Hero]

Barristan will be betrayed but our hero Victarion will save him and win the favour of the most beautiful women in the world.

 

[Valhelm]

Green Grace is certainly the Harpy. It makes too much sense. She can easily have discourse with both sides, and symbolically she is an interesting inversion of Dany. The Masters are all men who oppress others, but here we have a woman who abides by their morals. Has she been cast on the show? Just get the actress who played Olenna to play her, she's not doing anything right now.

She hasn't, so I doubt she'll appear. The "Harpy" thread will just be faceless killings. The show doesn't have enough time to go into them.

 

[Dany]

Gilly and Samwell were having dinner in a restaurant I was in tonight (in Belfast)..

Aw, that sounds cute.

 

[Euron]

Fat

Pink

Mast

There's absolutely no way that this scene will NOT make it into the show. And it will be glorious.

Spoiler

Or it will just end up being the next "your sister" and cause meltdowns in every book thread on the internet.

And "nipples on a breastplate" needs to be said at least once on the show. And "mayhaps"

 

[WaffleTaco]

During season 1, the actor who played Jon hung around and became friends with John Bradley just so he could play his character better. Kit then proceeded to date Rose Leslie and then broke up prior to season 4 airing.

There was a video where John Bradley talked about it. Pretty funny.

Well...I'm not sure how I feel about that lol

 

[Fuzzy]

The poison was absolutely meant to kill somebody. Strong Belwas almost died, but he's enormous. As Daenerys is probably less than half his weight, that quantity of locusts would certainly kill her.

Like was said, Belwas got very sick from eating the entire bowl. I agree that if Dany had eaten the entire bowl herself then she would've died but there's no way in hell she would've eaten more than a couple of them. She would've gotten sick but still survived.

 

[Fuzzy]

Watchers: Two casting calls hint at Tyrion’s season five storyline

 

[Showaddy]

Watchers: Two casting calls hint at Tyrion’s season five storyline

Don't know why I expected Aegon & JonCon, should have known better lol

 

[Chopper]

Watchers: Two casting calls hint at Tyrion’s season five storyline

I don't get it. A stand in for Dinklage?

And will Clea be the whore he sees before bumping into Jorah?

 

[NeoGiff]

I don't get it. A stand in for Dinklage?

And will Clea be the whore he sees before bumping into Jorah?

Just for long shots (possibly involving CGI) I'd imagine. He'll most likely have the same duties as

Spoiler

Lena's double for the Walk

i.e. to avoid having the actors on set for extended periods when they're not needed.

 

[WaffleTaco]

I'm pretty sure the whore Tyrion sees, he fucks her, sees her disgust and then fucks her again.

 

[Brazil]

I'm pretty sure the whore Tyrion sees, he fucks her, sees her disgust and then fucks her again.

Let me help:

Surprisingly, it’s also noted there is no sex or nudity in the role.

 

[WaffleTaco]

Let me help:

I was talking about in the book and responding to another poster how they were wondering if it was the whore he talks to before getting captured.

 

[endre]

I was talking about in the book and responding to another poster how they were wondering if it was the whore he talks to before getting captured.

How about the girl to whom Tyrion talks to while staying at Illyrio's residence?

 

[RedShift]

Is she possibly a Penny replacement, or is it not that big a role?

 

[Showaddy]

Is she possibly a Penny replacement, or is it not that big a role?

Wouldn't have thought they'd need a Penny replacement, Tyrion can chat to Varys for half the season and then Jorah for the other half.

 

[Valhelm]

Clea will just be a quick exposition character that Tyrion meets in Pentos or Volantis. She'll say something about slavery and the city.

If Aegon is going to be in the show, she might look Targaryen and be an example of the Valyrian phenotype.

 

[NeoGiff]

Where are all the fellow Euraario believers? Have I got

Spoiler

bad

news for you.

 

[Iksenpets]

Where are all the fellow Euraario believers? Have I got

Spoiler

bad

news for you.

!!!

 

[Valhelm]

...What's the news?

 

[Iksenpets]

...What's the news?

I thought he had the inside scoop on a Euron casting, but now that I've had a moment to compose myself it's probably more likely that it's just news about Daario still filming in Meereen, so he's not leaving for the Iron Isles.

 

[NeoGiff]

I thought he had the inside scoop on a Euron casting, but now that I've had a moment to compose myself it's probably more likely that it's just news about Daario still filming in Meereen, so he's not leaving for the Iron Isles.

Yeah that's all, sorry to burst your bubbles. He's still under the command of Dany in season 5.

 

[WaffleTaco]

Lol damn

 

[WhereAreMahDragonz]

I thought for a split second that he got re-recast and laughed.