Basileus777
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They can just shove her into the Winterfell plotline too.
But Victarion has already been replaced by a throwaway line in Season 4 about how Dany captured a fleet.
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They can just shove her into the Winterfell plotline too.
The discussion side of the series, at least on this board, is definitely running out of steam from me. I'm still as invested and interested as I ever have been, but the discussion among book readers has become so toxic that I just am not all that interested in discussing the episodes online much anymore. I almost wish it was just a TV show without the baggage of the books, or that I hadn't read the books so I could participate in the other thread, because I love posting with TVGAF for other shows.
I don't know if other people feel similarly to me, or the leak is affecting things, or maybe book-readers are more irritated about the changes and less interested in talking.
badcrumble
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I'm definitely of the opinion that it makes some amount of sense to just have her take over Victarion's role and send her off to Essos by the end of the season, but there's also the matter of Dany *already* having a fleet of ships and the fact that it's probably easier to find a dragon horn in Essos than it is in Westeros. It's kinda possible that Yara's run out of things to do.
I dunno. I'm a book reader, but not a book chauvinist. I'm super excited to see where this season goes precisely because I don't really care where the ending happens first, I'm just glad to see the story begin moving through (and eventually past) AFFC/ADWD. If GRRM won't give that to me, I'll delightedly take it from Benioff and Weiss.
BobTheFork
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Well I had assumed she would show up to interact with Theon at Winterfell at some point but it would be a bit strange after 'who let the dogs out' last season. Technically, I think Balon is still alive too so it's just a mess. It's the biggest disappointment of a plot in the show to me. Not just based on the books, but how they were introduced and what has become of them since is lame.
Decent enough start to the season and they did a pretty good job with Mance Rayders death. Much more emotional than I was expecting. Still it is a shame to see Ciaran Hinds most likely finished with the show. Great acting from him during his burning scene.
The flashback was also quite good. The casting for young Cersei was perfect.
The flashback was also quite good. The casting for young Cersei was perfect.
Yeah, that's a big question mark- at a minimum you need to kill off Balon. I suspect they looked over what it would take to do the Eurarrio twist on TV and just decided to let that be a books-only thing.
Basileus777
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There's also the part where Euron doesn't exist, so what the hell would a Victarion replacement do when Dany doesn't need ships? I suppose Balon could send her.
badcrumble
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Ciaran Hinds went out well, but man, what a waste of an excellent actor that was.
Yep I really wished he appeared more in the show. Such a great actor.
Though I can always choose to blindly believe he's coming back like his book counterpart haha
Cpt.Underpants
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Yes, kid-who-shot-Ygritte
dsp
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This thread seems to be less active than previous years, the other one is actually getting more posts. Is the fear of the show spoiling the books real?
The disinterest from book readers is real
WrenchNinja
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Is Olly just a stand in for Satin
Basileus777
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He's taking on Bowen Marsh's role. The season will end with Olly giving a nod over Jon's corpse.
I don't know how Jon doesn't kick his teeth in.
Maybe cuz Ygritte killed that kids parents.
Cpt.Underpants
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badcrumble
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I think Jon doesn't because he takes the Night's Watch seriously and also because he knows it's ultimately his own fault that Ygritte is dead. He chose his side.
Ygritte shot an arrow right through the back of his father's skull in front of the kid and then the Mangar killed his mother and told him that he was going to eat his parents. Because you know the Thenns are cannibals in the show.
Cpt.Underpants
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I'm gonna bet my left nut
she's gonna get killed this season along with her father
graffix13
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Yeah. I like that kid.
How was he suppose to know Jon and Ygritte had a 'thing'? Also, who's to say Ygritte wasn't about to put an arrow through Jon's head?
Crows before Ho's.
I don't see anyway they implausibly spared her last season only to kill her now. That story in season 4 would've been 10x better if they had allowed her to be killed off, so there must be something important they're saving her for. I just have no idea what it is.
Nah ma, I'm convinced Euron and Vicky and all the Greyjoys are gone for good in the show. Yara may show up to have her plot resolved but the Greyjoys at large are done. Afterall, if their only purpose is to bring Dany to Westeros then Daario has already got that covered in the show with those ships he captured. Thus, Euron and Victarion are superfluous fluff to the show.
Basileus777
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Balon is going to be the last man standing.
Why? It's pretty clear D&D are done with the ironborn. The Kingsmoot in season 6 makes no sense whatsoever as it is too late, and Dany already has her ships so no Vic. And insert Euron=Daario joke in here too.
As for the killed part, maybe, but no one cares about the ironborn in the show. In the books no one cares too, but in there they are the hidden "evil": no ones cares about them until Vic with his ships and Euron with his magic shenanigans start messing things. I don't think George has given us so many chapters on so many ironborn characters for nothing. I don't know the numbers, but I would guess after the Starks and Lannisters the Greyjoys have the most chapters of all, much more then Dornish people for sure.
Jibbajabbawockky
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I just cannot fathom how cutting a badass Viking warrior with a LAVA arm seems like a good thing. Victarion and Euron just seem like characters made for being interesting on TV. And they're getting cut? Eh.
I'm just getting the impression that D&D have the rough plot points for how the story is going to go but the problem is that we're left with their own original material to fill those gaps. And the vast majority of their original content thus far on the show has been pretty unremarkable.
I'm just getting the impression that D&D have the rough plot points for how the story is going to go but the problem is that we're left with their own original material to fill those gaps. And the vast majority of their original content thus far on the show has been pretty unremarkable.
BobTheFork
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I would think they should have Balon die just to tie up the leeches, but viewers would have to be reminded who Balon is again and then if you show him die and nothing happens after that..I don't see the point.
bengraven
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Even after five years, it's pretty annoying how some people demonize the section of the fanbase who have actually invested 10-15 years in the property beforehand just because they read the books before the watchers heard of them.
The division between fans since the Red Wedding has been one of the worst cases of fan-isms I've seen in 36 years of being a geek.
Enosh
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bengraven
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Ironically the people who made them cut the Iron Islands are now the ones who want the show to go on longer, so maybe later...?
At the very least both parties will basically be on the same playing field very soon. I've gotten tired of the back and forth between both parties. The sooner the show catches up the sooner we can move on. The only people left will be the people actively scouting out Winds snippets.
Moff
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as far as I see, only the portion of the book readers who intentionally and unintentionally spoil the fun of non-readers are demonized, and they deserve it.
Basileus777
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Is there any reason to believe that the Iron Islands being cut wasn't D&D's decision? I'm not seeing where you are getting this statement from.
Did I miss a scene last night or did you just spoil something from a leaked episode?
I'm glad they're finally making the big cuts. No Iron Islands, no fAegon, no Dorne dude I already forgot about that should have never fucking existed in ADWD in the first place. Trim that fat, HBO.
Cpt.Underpants
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oh god, glad I didn't see that
*phew*
*phew*
Trim the fat but keep Missandei/Grey Worm romantic undertones and Loras sex scenes
Enosh
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victarion isn't fat he is just big boned!
man this is just depressing me now i mean if there was something more interesting than crazy vikings doing crazy shit instead but nooo, we get fucking grey worm and missandei talking about why unsulied visit brothels, and then the fucker says he doesn't know, they are your fucking men, ASK THEM
Moff
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using characters you already have on sets you already have is cheap. and without the occasional romance, sex and violence I guess the show wouldn't be nearly as popular as it is right now. and I think especially with the reception AFFC and ADWD had, its more important than ever to focus on the things that made the show popular, because somehow you have to keep the audience interested during that period.
not fast enough for gutshot
*looks it up*
I was thinking about Quentyn Martell, but pretty much all of the Dorne crew can eat it.
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