No date given yet, except what I posted on the last page: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=129500114&postcount=696
I suspect this weeks livestream might have some information on 4.5. I'll be sure to mention it here if they say anything.
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No date given yet, except what I posted on the last page: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=129500114&postcount=696
I suspect this weeks livestream might have some information on 4.5. I'll be sure to mention it here if they say anything.
JordanN
Banned
I think I'm going to give up lightmass now.
With the way games are headed, I rather be proficient at real time lighting than baked. I also realize the more bigger my environments get, the longer render times are going to take. That's going to get real annoying soon.
I'm happy the current real time GI solution supports indirect illumination, so that's good enough for me.
With the way games are headed, I rather be proficient at real time lighting than baked. I also realize the more bigger my environments get, the longer render times are going to take. That's going to get real annoying soon.
I'm happy the current real time GI solution supports indirect illumination, so that's good enough for me.
Do you have to do anything special, like checking properties or something, to enable the current real time GI solution?
JordanN
Banned
You have to make just one tweak to the ConsoleVariables.ini file (found here).
"Force Precomputed lighting" has to be disabled in the world settings(because it obviously stops using lightmaps). In your directional light, you have to check off "Affect Dynamic Indirect Lighting" and set "Dynamic Shadow Distance" to 10.000.
That's it! You have global illumination in real time.
You can continue playing with the settings in the directional light as well as post process volume.
Many thanks! It's better than nothing until when and if the Lionhead GI gets in, I imagine.
Treechopper
Member
I'm having a blast just looking through the docs and source code seeing how professionals architect their code.
By no means have I exhausted the resources given to me yet, but do the docs talk about how they implement certain features or is it more reference? I'd love to know how features look from theory to implementation.
By no means have I exhausted the resources given to me yet, but do the docs talk about how they implement certain features or is it more reference? I'd love to know how features look from theory to implementation.
JordanN
Banned
It's kind of a mix of both. The docs give you a run down of how to use each of the engine's features and some examples to go with them.
If you're more interested in the origin of how each feature gets implemented, there is a section of the website containing whitepapers/pdf of certain topics.
Beyond that, development of the engine is on-going and discussed on the internet. You can find Epic's developers posting on the forum, discussing upcoming features of the engines or already existing ones. There are also developer live streams held every week that gets posted to Youtube, that also goes into a lot of depth of the engine's features, the future of engine, etc.
CA is the new lens flare. People will throw it on for the sake of being "next gen" while ignoring the real scientific properties behind it (i.e a camera defect based on how light reaches the lens).
Although, not all CA is bad. I think it can be done tastefully like in The Order.
Nothing in that pic says "obnoxious". And in every video I've seen, 99% of the time it's not even noticeable.
It is still over done in that shot.
CA is like lens flare. People are just using it because it is the new popular thing. If the whole point of big budget games is to mimic blockbuster movies then CA should be hard to find. If I can see it in every game scene then the devs aren't doing it right.
Unreal Engine 4.4.3 Hotfix out:
https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?41188-4-4-3-Hotfix-is-Live!
https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?41188-4-4-3-Hotfix-is-Live!
CA is the new lens flare. People will throw it on for the sake of being "next gen" while ignoring the real scientific properties behind it (i.e a camera defect based on how light reaches the lens).
Although, not all CA is bad. I think it can be done tastefully like in The Order.
Nothing in that pic says "obnoxious". And in every video I've seen, 99% of the time it's not even noticeable.
That's far from "tastefully".
Treechopper
Member
Thanks for the information. From where I'm sitting they're really doing a fantastic job supporting this engine.
CA is the new lens flare. People will throw it on for the sake of being "next gen" while ignoring the real scientific properties behind it (i.e a camera defect based on how light reaches the lens).
Although, not all CA is bad. I think it can be done tastefully like in The Order.
Nothing in that pic says "obnoxious". And in every video I've seen, 99% of the time it's not even noticeable.
Nope, its not done tastefully here. Tasteful is like set 0.5-0.7 in CryEngine, its almost invisible even on screenshot, but it still there.
The only time when You can go higher when game has view via lenses or there is some vision distortion.
TheGuardian
Member
Area shadows are cast by a light source with a given shape/size, instead of an infinitely small point light. So you get a correct penumbra (that gradient going from fully shadowed to non shadowed) that matches that light size/shape.
I haven't had much time to play with this thanks to my work... I have been testing some tessellation. Those chairs and other objects are UE4 included items I just dropped in.
Here it looks quite jaggy. I'll need to smooth it a bit and add something between the tiles and probably make the gap smaller.
Here is another picture where I added some other tile textures with tessellation.
I can change the amount of dirt the textures have inside the editor thanks to substances. Substance designer is pretty cool program to have. I am still learning the basics from that program too. This is kinda of hobby for me
Here it looks quite jaggy. I'll need to smooth it a bit and add something between the tiles and probably make the gap smaller.
Here is another picture where I added some other tile textures with tessellation.
I can change the amount of dirt the textures have inside the editor thanks to substances. Substance designer is pretty cool program to have. I am still learning the basics from that program too. This is kinda of hobby for me
shacklesmcgee
Member
Substance Designer is the future, I absolutely love it.
hunchback
Member
I feel incredibly stupid right now. I'm having a lot of trouble getting the Unreal Tournament components installed into the UE4 engine. I tried following all of the instructions for Git hub, but I just get errors everywhere and now UE4 won't even run.
I have experience with the Source engine and have made UT maps with the old editor. Do you think I'm in over my head or should I do a clean install and go without the UT tournament files? I posted here first because you guys are generally nicer than other forum's. Thank you for any info you might provide.
I have experience with the Source engine and have made UT maps with the old editor. Do you think I'm in over my head or should I do a clean install and go without the UT tournament files? I posted here first because you guys are generally nicer than other forum's. Thank you for any info you might provide.
s_mirage
Member
CA is the new lens flare. People will throw it on for the sake of being "next gen" while ignoring the real scientific properties behind it (i.e a camera defect based on how light reaches the lens).
Although, not all CA is bad. I think it can be done tastefully like in The Order.
Nothing in that pic says "obnoxious". And in every video I've seen, 99% of the time it's not even noticeable.
It doesn't? I'd say that's actually a particularly obnoxious example. A game set in 1886 yet apparently the player is viewing everything through a digital camera with a defective lens. At least Crysis' CA made some in universe sense. I'm sorry but 99 times out of 100 it just looks shit.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
CA has, as far as I know, nothing to do with digital photography, and everything to do with imprecise lens optics. Which IMO makes perfect sense that the lenses would be less than perfect in a 19th century game camera.
Although, I think they have reduced CA in this game significantly in the latest footage released.
Maybe I'm not looking hard enough, but is there a way to do parallax mapping in UE4? I saw some suggestions to use the bumpoffset node, but it only brought out the texture slightly.
Here's the texture I made in Marmoset with parallax mapping:
And here it is in UE4 with bumpoffset:
Here's the texture I made in Marmoset with parallax mapping:
And here it is in UE4 with bumpoffset:
s_mirage
Member
Fully aware of that, however that looks nothing like the output from a 19th century camera.
SuperEpicGuy
Banned
The "cinematic" film grain looks pretty obnoxious to me. And for the love of God, I can't imagine how mimicking a fundamental design issue in cameras makes a game look better. At all.CA is the new lens flare. People will throw it on for the sake of being "next gen" while ignoring the real scientific properties behind it (i.e a camera defect based on how light reaches the lens).
Although, not all CA is bad. I think it can be done tastefully like in The Order.
Nothing in that pic says "obnoxious". And in every video I've seen, 99% of the time it's not even noticeable.
Tomorrows live stream will be about 4.5!
https://forums.unrealengine.com/sho...ation-Retargeting-and-More!-Live-from-Epic-HQ
https://forums.unrealengine.com/sho...ation-Retargeting-and-More!-Live-from-Epic-HQ
4.5 preview release out any time now, 4.5 release notes as well soon.
Some features:
- UMG a full feature now
- hot reload
- new tutorial system
- automatic naming issues in the content browser solved
- more straight lines in blueprints now (better alignment)
- EXR screenshot feature
- subsurface scattering
- new project templates: twin stick shooter and advanced vehicle template (did I hear loopings :O?)
- animation retargeting manager
- html5 export?
- improved foliage lightning in the works (might be finished in a week, if you want it for 4.5 they will help you getting it into 4.5 as its most likely coming for 4.6)
- they are working on improving large worlds (nav mesh streaming support)
Video of Epics Showdown demo (VR) if you haven't seen it yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dVAYmbIdfU#t=100
Some features:
- UMG a full feature now
- hot reload
- new tutorial system
- automatic naming issues in the content browser solved
- more straight lines in blueprints now (better alignment)
- EXR screenshot feature
- subsurface scattering
- new project templates: twin stick shooter and advanced vehicle template (did I hear loopings :O?)
- animation retargeting manager
- html5 export?
- improved foliage lightning in the works (might be finished in a week, if you want it for 4.5 they will help you getting it into 4.5 as its most likely coming for 4.6)
- they are working on improving large worlds (nav mesh streaming support)
Video of Epics Showdown demo (VR) if you haven't seen it yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dVAYmbIdfU#t=100
Have they said anything about adding it to the marketplace like they did with Couch Knights? I wouldn't mind trying it myself.
Dunno about that, but I would recommend checking out the free Couch Knights sample from the marketplace as that is a full VR demo with all code and assets.
WHOAguitarninja
Member
It's not really the fault of lens optics, to be specific. Chromatic aberration comes from the fact that when light hits a surface with an index of refraction different from the one it's leaving, it will bend at slightly different angles according to its wavelength. The best lens in the world is going to suffer from it to some degree. It can be partially corrected for in software in many cases, so its not a huge problem, but if you have thick framed glasses and you look out the top of them at a high contrast edge, you're likely to see some chromatic aberration.
It's practically automatic assuming you don't have a terribly custom camera. There's a built-in Rift plugin that pretty much just works (Direct Mode with a mirrored display) if you run your game in fullscreen. You'll need to set a single world scale value to make the positional tracking scale fit your world well and you'll want to set up a reset orientation button (which is very easy).
This was interesting, need to get the demo scene later on.
Also the video linked in that article is pretty nice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eA5XHQr7o0
It's by Alden Filion who is an artist at DICE.
plagiarize
Banned
I had no experience with UE4 or developing for VR. I have found it very easy to implement Rift support, and somewhat trickier to tweak it to my liking (detaching it from the character so turning your head doesn't turn your body, that type of thing), but it's getting there!
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Yes, of course - there would not be color video cameras then in the first place, but it's IMO a creative liberty that makes sense (then again I'm pretty sure they toned it down some in the latest footage I've seen)
As others have mentioned its trivial. Judging by the demos at Oculus Connect the engine is going to shine in VR.
Still needs a lot of work, but is surprisingly usable. The biggest missing pieces are animation and a sane way to re-position stuff through code, IMO. Content scaling is also missing (and it's absolutely necessary for mobile projects), but it's coming in 4.5.
Someone posted the plane scene a while ago, the same guy did a night version now which looks quite decent as well.
Source: https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?36510-Hangar
Source: https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?36510-Hangar
VisceralBowl
Member
Does anybody know the console command to turn off depth of field?
VisceralBowl
Member
Thanks!
I think there will be a top-down sample in the next release. These tutorials might help you in the meantime:
http://youtu.be/VtMwSduToZg
http://youtu.be/VtMwSduToZg
Just saw the archived live stream on Youtube for 4.5.
Man, these guys are hyped up about it, you can tell they love what they do and are super passionate.
That's a big plus in my book, cause lets be honest Unreal Engine 4 is a super fucking cool framework, them being so open about the development makes it even more <3
And thus I'm really curious to see what Valve has in store. They are the only ones who can cut into UE4's popularity every other engine released just can't keep up.
Man, these guys are hyped up about it, you can tell they love what they do and are super passionate.
That's a big plus in my book, cause lets be honest Unreal Engine 4 is a super fucking cool framework, them being so open about the development makes it even more <3
And thus I'm really curious to see what Valve has in store. They are the only ones who can cut into UE4's popularity every other engine released just can't keep up.
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