Unreal engine 5,5 mega light tech demo

I skimmed through, looks like a pretty huge upgrade. And wow, running on PS5??? The sooner all devs decide to go all in on Unreal the better. Special thank you to Unity for shitting on all of their customers and helping to pave the future for us.
 
RetroGamingUK said:
What's the frame rate and resolution?
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When will third party UE4 and 5 games not have nasty asset pops during camera cuts?

Jusant, an otherwise smooth performing (with VRR at least) 60fps game that's light on textures still has big visible pops after camera cuts in cutscenes.
 
Look, I don't know if they compare on technical level but the first impression I have is this

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Good for gaming's future either way that we move away from baked lights.
 
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This is the dumbest marketing name ever. I read the title as 5.5 Megalights.
Imagine my disappointment when the demo showed no signs or mention of 5.5 Million light sources. :messenger_angry:
 
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Lemme know when it's in an actual game that has a soul. It feels like most of the games using UE5 either perform poorly on modern hardware or seems so cookie cutter and "samey".
 
I don't think people realise how amazing the textured area lights are, that's just incredible.
Alan Wake 2 has something similar, but it wasn't nearly as accurate and "real" as this solution.
In short it's how moving light sources (like a TV/monitor) in the real world would project and bounce of surfaces.
Honestly the most impressive part of the whole presentation for me, funny that they only spent like 2 seconds on it.
 
Msamy said:
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Lol Megalights? If you ever needed an Epic Games seal of approval.

The lighting density is amazing, reminded me of their early games done on Unreal Engine 3 that used to equally have that quantity of lights but it's much more accurately rendered in this demo.
 
Looks fantastic, but developers are taking too long to keep advantage of these features.
Is there a 4K source?
 
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Needs moar JPEG VP9..!

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When you compress something so much it becomes art.

Jokes aside this looks really good. Hopefully they can cough up a high quality encode.
 
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The fact that this is running on a PS5 is truly astounding. I was just bitching about how some devs have not matched the OG PS5 UE5 demo let alone the Matrix Awakens demo, and now they drop this.

I was laughed at for saying this a couple of years ago, but i think its time we all realize that everyone should adopt UE5 going forward.
 
Bitstream said:
I skimmed through, looks like a pretty huge upgrade. And wow, running on PS5??? The sooner all devs decide to go all in on Unreal the better. Special thank you to Unity for shitting on all of their customers and helping to pave the future for us.
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I wouldn't put too much stock in to it. That quality of level work in the demo is done by guys who have a lot of experience with PC development, the old school id software, the old school Valve Software, that skill isn't taught anymore for level artists.
 
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SlimySnake said:
The fact that this is running on a PS5 is truly astounding. I was just bitching about how some devs have not matched the OG PS5 UE5 demo let alone the Matrix Awakens demo, and now they drop this.

I was laughed at for saying this a couple of years ago, but i think its time we all realize that everyone should adopt UE5 going forward.
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UE still has an obvious flaw dating back to the start of UE3 and Gears of War despite huge increases in memory and SSD streaming.

The Matrix playable demo ran at a horrible smeary low framerate and resolution despite being a tech demo with limited content and interactivity.

Everyone using the same tools and renderer means all games have the same issues and Epic has the same power and leverage over competing developers they hate Apple/Google having over them.
 
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Running on PS5 sure gets everyone hyped up again. Remember the OG Nanite/Lumen demo? How many games did we get of that scale and fidelity? Don't be fooled again. You'll get more remasters and you'll love it.
 
Sony said:
Running on PS5 sure gets everyone hyped up again. Remember the OG Nanite/Lumen demo? How many games did we get of that scale and fidelity? Don't be fooled again. You'll get more remasters and you'll love it.
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Wukong fully lives up to the original UE5 demo. It's more to do with the devs than the engine imho
 
Sony said:
You'll get more remasters and you'll love it.
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I'm personally not againts Remasters like from 90 to 2010(because need proper work on modern systems), but like Horizon/last of us etc, it's joke remasters

How many games did we get of that scale and fidelity?
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I think devs need times for learning how optimize, their projects
 
Shin-Ra said:
UE still has an obvious flaw dating back to the start of UE3 and Gears of War despite huge increases in memory and SSD streaming.

The Matrix playable demo ran at a horrible smeary low framerate and resolution despite being a tech demo with limited content and interactivity.

Everyone using the same tools and renderer means all games have the same issues and Epic has the same power and leverage over competing developers they hate Apple/Google having over them.
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Nah it mostly ran at 1440p reconstructed to 4k using TSR and looked fine on consoles.

The framerate issues were only during driving and were related to CPU bottlenecks that were fixed in UE5.4. Alex saw gains of 50-80% while traversing. people forget that the engine was still in beta when the matrix awakens demo was released.



if other devs dont want Epic to have a monopoly, they can make their own engines. We have seen studios attempt at leveraging the mesh shaders and RT capabilities of these consoles and fail miserably in comparison. Git Gud. Nice try but time to give Epic some cash. They have earned it.
 
SlimySnake said:
The fact that this is running on a PS5 is truly astounding. I was just bitching about how some devs have not matched the OG PS5 UE5 demo let alone the Matrix Awakens demo, and now they drop this.

I was laughed at for saying this a couple of years ago, but i think its time we all realize that everyone should adopt UE5 going forward.
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I think most companies should. And even then, they can't focus enough to make games to look this good.
 
It looks great, and makes me want a new Uncharted

Weird choice to show emissive light casting off what are essentially TV screens in desert cave environment. I thought it was crazy bad pop-in at first.
 
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Probably 720p 30fps, TSR to reconstuct to 1440p
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Nope. most UE5 games run at 1440p 30 fps using TSR to construct at 4k. Just like the original PS5 UE5 did. Some drop to 1296p during load but mostly average out at 1440p internal resolution in the 30 fps modes.

the drops to 720p are exclusive to 60 fps modes.

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The quality mode is perhaps the most straightforward, with roughly 1440p internal resolutions (we measured 1224p to 1584p) upscaled to 4K with FSR 3.
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. Based on a limited range of samples though, quality mode on PS5 and Series X is ~1296p,
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I did notice that the quality mode runs at a 1440p internal resolution on PS5 though
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Tekken 8 - 60 fps mode

. In reality, they often hang closer to 1440p or slightly above.
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Looks good, very promising.
To be honest wasn't really impressed initially, until those shadows, realizing nothing's baked.
 
SlimySnake said:
I was laughed at for saying this a couple of years ago, but i think its time we all realize that everyone should adopt UE5 going forward.
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I expect that to happen soon, at least with 90%+ of the industry.

However, I really wish Epic focused on optimizing the engine as opposed to just adding new features. As it stands, the issue is that UE5 is too heavy. At this current rate, I expect it to really come into its own and garner mass adoption next-gen, not even this gen.
 
Very impressive. At some point it's going to be real time everything.
 
Reizo Ryuu said:
I don't think people realise how amazing the textured area lights are, that's just incredible.
Alan Wake 2 has something similar, but it wasn't nearly as accurate and "real" as this solution.
In short it's how moving light sources (like a TV/monitor) in the real world would project and bounce of surfaces.
Honestly the most impressive part of the whole presentation for me, funny that they only spent like 2 seconds on it.
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Why is it that impressive, taking into account this was done almost ten years ago on 2013 hardware, and at 1080p native resolution and stable 30fps?

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I am certainly glad this sort of stuff can now be easily implemented by everyone, but I found the engine being able to handle all those real-time lights with shadows on top considerably more impressive.
 
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