Yselacrey00
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Because a PS4 game costs 59.99 and a PS5 game costs 69.99
But if I remember correctly, everyone here was praising Sony for raising the prices. People here said it didn't matter to them to pay more for a "premium" experience lmao.
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Update regarding Horizon Forbidden West (PS4 versions now have entitlement to free PS5 upgrade, other games will have $10 upgrade fee)
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But if I remember correctly, everyone here was praising Sony for raising the prices. People here said it didn't matter to them to pay more for a "premium" experience lmao.
Yselacrey00
Banned
Don't you get bonus for preorders ?
MasterCornholio
Member
HFW has a 60FPS mode on the PS5 right?
Does the PS4 version have one as well?
Crossgen games tend to be much better on the newer platforms. I can still see why some might want to pick up a PS5.
Yselacrey00
Banned
Dude, it's going to be the same game with better resolution. Although I would expect a lot more than that for a game coming out a year after the PS5 release.
Jaysen
Banned
In Sony’s own words, Horizon was considered a launch game. Launch doesn’t mean the day a console comes out. It refers to a window of time after that launch, which is why Sony now says that when Horizon got delayed, it got moved out of the launch window. There’s no reading comprehension issues here. Again, Sony themselves admit this. And the defense the fanboys are giving for this is that Sony is now lying to appease people who “read it wrong”. That’s just utter stupidity.
saintjules
Gold Member
Eh I get what you mean, but Microsoft still doesn't have the tier of games that Sony is pushing (yet).
MasterCornholio
Member
I think the PS5 version has a 60FPs mode confirmed for it. Plus there might be other changes besides resolution.
Yselacrey00
Banned
As soon as Microsoft gets some fucking games. That's the only thing keeping Sony afloat but this holiday season it will be a huge win for Microsoft. Too bad they are so fucking clueless thanks to their clueless manager Phil Spencer. They have like 30 studios and the only things they come out with are Halo and Forza.
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Ass of Can Whooping
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When did Sony ever claim Horizon was a "launch window" game before this?
Umbasaborne
Banned
I would have agreed with you up until flight sim and forza horizon 5. Halo...it remains to be seen. Sadly im convinced that that game will come out with a great multiplayer mode, and a boring half cooked campaign
Banjo64
cumsessed
Shouldn’t even be an ongoing discussion over semantics, Sony admitted they promised Horizon would have a free upgrade. Case closed.
Last year we made a commitment to deliver free upgrades for our cross-gen launch titles, which included Horizon Forbidden West.
Last year we made a commitment to deliver free upgrades for our cross-gen launch titles, which included Horizon Forbidden West.
With all due respect I think you’re mad. My PS4 ramped up to serious decibel levels when I played God of War on it in May. Couldn’t get beyond half an hour, then decided to pull the trigger on a DE. £360, great decision. I dread to think what the next GoW and Horizon will make a PS4 scream like.
Yselacrey00
Banned
It's the same, 60fps, 4k, HDR are not proper upgrades. Those things are a given just for the power difference between consoles.
At the end of the day if those are the only differences then it will be the same game but prettier.
MasterCornholio
Member
Well Sony is releasing games as well so I don't think that's going to hurt them. Now if the quality of Sony's games goes into the dumpster then I can see things getting really bad for them. We have to wait and see if that happens though.
Umbasaborne
Banned
The map in horizon zerod dawn made my launch model ps4 pro sound like it was about to take flight
MasterCornholio
Member
Isn't that what a cross gen games are? Like Demons Souls for example.
I guess it depends on what the additional visual features are.
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Yselacrey00
Banned
He's right. I bought my.ÑS5 in November and I have yet to play a single PS5 exclusive Game. All I've been doing is playing the PS plus collection games.
FranXico
Member
"Targetting" late 2021 is launch window? No, they promoted the game since before the console launched, but they never said it's a launch game. They also showed that Ragnarok teaser, does that make it a launch window game too?
Launch window is, by definition, a game launched close to the console launch. Summer 2021 or beyond is not launch window for a console launched in late 2020.
Don't call out stupidity, please. It doesn't have the effect you think it has.
Yselacrey00
Banned
No. Crossgen games were really different last gen. They were almost two completely.different games because the developers actually cared. They would utilize the power of the new console to do a game that wasn't possible on last gent consoles and then they would do a last gen game with all the limitations.
Now they just up the resolution, framerate and then call it a day. And now those things don't even make much of a difference. Playing at 4k or 1080p, 60 fps or 30fps is not a big differentiator factor.
sainraja
Member
I don't think anyone really "praised" a price increase. Some of us have been gaming long enough to know that game prices have gone up in the past. If you don't know, the standard price for new games use to be $49.99. The new price now is $69.99. When next gen only games are the norm, that is the price we are going to see across the board.
Concern
Member
I played God of War, Days Gones, and GoT all on my launch Ps4 lol. Sure it can get loud but I play with the platinum headset on so its not like I notice it as much.
You went Digital Edition? Thats a bitch since digital deals usually take longer to come than physical. Unless you gameshare which would make it easier on the wallet.
sainraja
Member
The time you are referencing was also the time when the hardware between the last gen and new gen console was very different. See PS3 to PS4.
Yselacrey00
Banned
Dude, these people were saying the PS5 had the best "launch lineup" ever when the only games released were a PS3 remake (Demons Soul's) and a PS4 expansion with updated visuals (Miles morales) . They even tried to include ratchet even after it released 7 months later.
MasterCornholio
Member
Honestly I would need to see a comparison between HFW on the PS4 with the PS5 version before coming to that conclusion. It's always possible that the developers developed some features just for the PS5. Kind of like how Insomniac developed RT Reflections for the PS5 version of Miles Morales for example.
It doesn't always have to be a simple resolution or framerate bump.
PropellerEar
Member
Old port and unreleased games
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
As far as first party goes yeah this was their best lineup
But that's just because their launch lineup has always been shit up until now
Banjo64
cumsessed
Gamesharing right now with a family member, but before that I was always just happy to wait a couple of years until the exclusives hit sub £30 in the sales. Single player games don’t become bad with time in my experience
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
This is the reason you never offer something for free, it will bite you in the ass and people will abuse it.
While I agree they should offer it as free upgrade because that's what they originally said, I do believe the games should be the same price too.
A lot of the outrage is from people with PS5 and don't need to buy the PS4 version and just wants to save 10 bucks.
While I agree they should offer it as free upgrade because that's what they originally said, I do believe the games should be the same price too.
A lot of the outrage is from people with PS5 and don't need to buy the PS4 version and just wants to save 10 bucks.
PropellerEar
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Banjo64
cumsessed
Christ I hope you’re joking lol
FranXico
Member
"Doesn't count. It's just a demo." Maybe people also dismiss it because it's, you know, completely free.You played Astrobot, didn't you?
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Umbasaborne
Banned
Jesus fucking christ is everything a console war to you people?Old port and unreleased games
PropellerEar
Member
Phil Spencer was part of XBox one launch also internally big supporter and fan of it.
Concern
Member
Gamesharing right now with a family member, but before that I was always just happy to wait a couple of years until the exclusives hit sub £30 in the sales. Single player games don’t become bad with time in my experience
Definitely not. Unlike multiplayer games which can die down or get ruined with updates. I gameshare on both consoles so its pretty easy on both ends.
Only Playstation exclusives I bought day one were Infamous, The Order, and Bloodborne that I can remember off the top. The rest I waited for deals or just rented them.
Playing a single player game at 1080p/30fps over 4k/1440p/60fps doesn't really bother me. If it were multiplayer, I'd be more inclined to upgrade earlier.
Jaysen
Banned
Lol so don’t believe Sony’s own words then? You get how ridiculous that sounds right? They’re telling you they were wrong. Of all times to stop listening to them, why now I wonder?
Jaysen
Banned
It’s ok to stop fanboying for Sony. Even briefly. Unlike some of you, they can handle the L once in awhile.
Fake
Member
IDK if this help Don Mattrick at all.
you can find and preorder the ps4 version on the webpage and presumably in the app (havent checked).
TLZ
Banned
Is this is a serious post? So the only thing keeping Sony afloat is MS not having games? Not because Sony is a popular global brand? Not because they make games people love? Nothing? Just because MS don't have games? That's it? That simple? So people all around the world are craving for MS games waiting for that moment to happen when they all jump ship to their Lord and saviour Jesus MS Christ? And until that happens they have no choice but to deal with the Sony devil?
mcjmetroid
Member
Hahaha wow. 10 dollars to upgrade for future titles am I reading that right?
Wow
Wow
FunkMiller
Member
Right decision.
Though why the Ps5 version is still 10 bucks more than Ps4 is now fucking idiotic.
This whole thing has been a shitshow and could have been easily avoided, were it not for naked greed.
Though why the Ps5 version is still 10 bucks more than Ps4 is now fucking idiotic.
This whole thing has been a shitshow and could have been easily avoided, were it not for naked greed.
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wvnative
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It's possible it's just being reworked and will be back up soon, but as of last night, only the PS5 version standard edition or the deluxe edition were listed on the store for me. Slightly different topic but while browsing I also noticed you can't buy the PS4 version of Battlefield 2042 either, which is total BS since it isn't cross gen play so some PS5 owners have a legit reason to still want to buy the PS4 version to play with friends.
These are the first batch of games I've noticed that don't allow you to buy the last gen versions on the PS5, disturbing if this becomes a trend.
Mr Moose
Member
Standard Edition
PS4- Horizon Forbidden West™ (PS4™)
PropellerEar
Member
No wins for you here.
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Yselacrey00
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I tried but got real boredYou played Astrobot, didn't you?
