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[Radical_3d]

I know people fear this but Xbox has not been keeping Sony in check. It is Xbox that has been paving the way for digital only and price increases in both hardware and subscriptions. They have given Sony the greenlight.

I didn't consider it that way. It's interesting because it's true that Xbox opened the gates of pay for online play, but still I don't see how their 12TF machine for 500$€ of 2020 is rising up the prices.

 

[T-Reks]

I feel like even if I was single, with no wife and kids, no social life and all I did was play video games after work….this would STILL be too much money a month.

Yeah it's too much for me

 

[Punished Miku]

Ubisoft+….classics and Fortnite crap. Gee thanks, totally worth the price increase. I think it's time to sell my series x.

Edit: I would consider it worth if it was full on Ubisoft+, not just old stuff.

It is all crap. Same old shit that hit PS+. I looked and already owned every game I would be interested in. Tried Starlink for 10 min and deleted it. The Ubisoft stuff is mostly trash. I'd try Avatar or Shadows but they're of course not there. No one with GP needs this old crap.

 

[reinking]

I didn't consider it that way. It's interesting because it's true that Xbox opened the gates of pay for online play, but still I don't see how their 12TF machine for 500$€ of 2020 is rising up the prices.

The reason I do not fear Sony pulling a full Spencer is simple. Microsoft can afford to blow up Xbox. They can take those studios, roll them into Microsoft Gaming Studios and be the largest publisher in gaming. Or, they could simply write them off. Xbox is a side hustle for them that never accomplished what it set out to do. Sony cannot afford to blow up the PlayStation brand. It would damage the entire company. I do think prices are going to rise because that is the current world we live in. However, I believe Sony would follow Nintendo down the lower specs road to chase a userbase than they will follow Microsoft to chase $1000+ consoles.

 

[justsomeguy]

Well, this is probably the end of the road for my ultimate subscription... I've been an xbox owner since the original, subscribed to xbox live like nov 17, 2002. Finally found a way to somewhat alienate me, lol.

I don't mind that they raised the price, just that they raised the price so much

Same here if I didn't have access to a friends & family 50% discount but I still feel alienated for what they're doing.

There's a bunch more games added to the service with the Acti Blizz purchase. So it's probably still decent value for what you have access to IF you had infinite time for gaming. But most gamers don't, and $30/mo - 6 full price games a year - just seems nuts.

I suppose one of the lower tiers may still offer value if you give up games day 1, but wasn't that always the game pass unique selling point?

As others have said, this seems designed to funnel people off the service, back to the traditional world of day 1 revenue from sales.

And as my friends at MS have said in the past, so much of this seems driven by the CFO, who put a bunch of financial rules in place about internal profit margins etc. That's basically driving a lot of the weird Xbox decisions over recent times, no doubt including this one.

I do still really like the Xbox ecosystem , but all attempts to differentiate itself from PlayStation are now gone. The answer to "Why buy the next gen Xbox" was always going to be game pass. But now why bother?

The only thing they've got left is removable controller batteries. I'm sorry Phil, that's not enough .

 

[FIREKNIGHT2029]

 

[MatrixReloaded101]

$360 to rent games for 1 year ….

 

[Tacrovy]

 

[justsomeguy]

Just realised how they can make $30/month better value - increase all games to $80 . (Oh wait didn't they try that?)

 

[Serianox]

Jesus the pricing for pc game pass that I've been a sub for a long time went from 36 to 70 local currency almost doubling it. Immediately stopped the sub it makes no sense to keep it for mostly indie games and from time to time playing some of the bigger games from Microsoft when the sub cost alone is pretty much the price of said indie games on their own and the first party stuff just isnt interesting enough on their own to keep my interest in the service.

 

[demigod]