Alucardx23
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Day 1 upgrade for me
Upgrade to Windows 10?
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You don't have to use the Xbox app and I believe you can disable cortana.
ieptbarakat
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Even though Windows 8/8.1 may be more efficient, certain games had to have compatibility depending on the engines/cheat protections to make them run properly. Naturally this is a per developer basis and abandoned games require the community to fix them. So make sure to search the forums of your most played games to see if there is any game breaking issues from playing on Win10 before you make the upgrade.
Be prepared for a rocky start if you upgrade day1.
Be prepared for a rocky start if you upgrade day1.
it was a win7 key i got from a busted laptop of mine. the guy who told me you have to upgrade from within win7, only after you install win10 that you can choose where to reinstall it. i could back up win 7 and move it over to another drive
Benchmarks seem to show Win10 uses less memory and uses CPU better than Windows 8.1. WDDM2.0 is meant to be way more efficient as well FWIK.
TouchMyBox
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Uhh, there are much easier ways for them to punch holes in their OS's security than giving away a new version and forfeiting the potential revenue it would have brought in.
Chubzdoomer
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I'm sure this has already been discussed, but how's the performance in Windows 10 versus 8.1, particularly for AMD? Is there a noticeable improvement in most games, or is it roughly the same?
(I also realize DX12 is supposed to bring about huge changes, but no games use it yet.)
(I also realize DX12 is supposed to bring about huge changes, but no games use it yet.)
MiguelItUp
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Personally I'd go ahead and "reserve your copy", all it does is ask for your email address in which they'll email you when it's up and ready. I think it's going to make people forget Windows 8 was even a thing. Not to mention DX 12? Ohhhh, yes please!
That's good to hear. I might do the switch.
I just hope upgrading from 8.1 is pretty much treated like a Service Pack, and not some massive, clean install thing. I am not willing to pour through all of the programs I use via and retweak each and every one from a reinstall, and I do know most of my games even require registry and config edits to have them running for my setup.
tl;dr - Clean installs are only for new computers.
I had this issue as well, going from 8.1 to 10. No LAN driver. So I rolled back and still had the problem, got it fixed thankfully.
Roughly the same from what I've played. The only games I cannot play and test performance are asian games that come with crappy anticheat software like gameguard. But that is mostly because they have not added windows 10 to the whitelist.
Wanted to play Black Desert and PSO2 so bad and was forced back to windows 8 for it
No it's free because they want people to finally leave windows 7
There's upgrade paths from Windows Update for 7 and 8.1. Clean installs are always recommended but you can upgrade.
Goddamn PIN login better be there at launch.
Also, can I expect to gain a few fps in existing games dx9-d11 with wddm2.0? I have no idea how it works.
Steve Youngblood
Member
Yeah. I actually didn't have any issues myself necessarily. I was on 10 Insider preview for about a week before I rolled back to Windows 7 because I decided to pick up a 980 Ti and there are no current drivers for that card on Windows 10.
You should be able to use Windows 8.1 drivers on 10, but after the latest update I wasn't able to install Windows 8.1 drivers anymore.
Alt-tabbing from a fullscreen process is a real pain, driver issues, crashes, and general stuff to expect from a preview OS.
Iorv3th
Member
What things specifically did you have trouble with? I am likely going to wait a few weeks to see how everything goes before moving over from 7.
Does it have something similar to compatibility mode in windows 7?
Well hope that's fixed. I'll take the wait and see approach as I alt-tab a lot.
Steve Youngblood
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Yes, it's worth keeping in mind that the newest thing on the block may not be the most stable thing on the planet for gaming. Or is only positive stuff allowed?
That last line was a rhetorical question just in case it wasn't clear. Grief's posts were perfectly fine. The post of your's I quoted isn't.
virus_of_life
Neo Member
Hey does anybody know that, if I am currently running windows 8.1 pro, and I sign up for the preview, I will be able to get windows 10 pro when it fully releases or will it forget that I had 8.1 pro?
Mihos
Gold Member
It's free so that it won't kill PC sales in the months leading up to release. It is only free for the first year for Windows 7. Same as what they do every time for computer purchases prior to a new OS coming out. This one is different because it is extended to previous OS users and not just new hardware/retail OS purchases, but it is an accounting trick so they can recognize revenue differently in regards to Windows 8 sales. That is why it is classified as a marketing and promotional activity instead of a free update.
They are also looking to get everyone onto the same Windows store and push MS services.
Here is a better explanation
http://www.computerworld.com/articl...ows-10-is-inoti-an-upgrade-its-marketing.html
Pro/Ultimate -> Pro. Home/Premium -> Home. Enterprise -> Enterprise.
TouchMyBox
Member
I'm not sure if this is full of shit or not, but here is a DX11 game running faster in Win10. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzFe5OOHZko
If nothing else it's a good idea to grab a key so you can update when you are satisfied with stability. Windows 7 extended support doesn't end until 2020 so there's no rush if that's a concern for anyone.
Yeah I've been trying it out in the insiders program. Certainly cures the bad taste 8 left in my mouth in terms of the UX. It's basically a similar interface to 7 with all of 8's genuinely good performance improvements underneath. Best of both worlds so far.
It's still a bit rough at the moment but that's to be expected.
It's still a bit rough at the moment but that's to be expected.
Why would they want just that?
Easier but probably more detectable than if it was integrated with a new OS right?
Rebel Leader
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I think that i accidently reserved was win 10.
hpe it doesn't upgrade me i want to stay on 8.1
hpe it doesn't upgrade me i want to stay on 8.1
Because it's not a product they're actively developing or selling and not directly integrated with any of the services that they're hoping to turn into revenue streams.
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SteveO1683
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Without a doubt I will be jumping to 10 the first month it is out.
TouchMyBox
Member
Because Windows 7 doesn't have the Microsoft Store, and doesn't support any of their Modern Apps that they are putting all of their effort into developing. They can't sell you their new razor blades if they don't give you the new razor handle.
Also Windows 10 has DirectX12, and if people don't upgrade to DX12, then DirectX is definitely going to die to Vulkan. I bet Microsoft doesn't want that.
If they wanted to, I bet they could easily put up Windows 7 for sale. They don't want to, and really want you to upgrade...
Don't worry about that.
When you "reserve" you just get queued to automatically download the Win 10 installer once it releases.
Once it's done, you then choose when you want to run the installer to actually install Windows 10.
CaptainABAB
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With the release so close (7/29), it might not make sense to install the Tech Preview at this time.
If you're adventurous and able to work around tech issues, feel free to install it on 7-29.
If not, wait a few months and see what the general consensus is.
If you're adventurous and able to work around tech issues, feel free to install it on 7-29.
If not, wait a few months and see what the general consensus is.
John Caboose
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Brutal? Please. They're just pointing out pre-release (your current experience and basis for advice) vs actual final version (that OP will get).
For gaming there's native game DVR which is really cool, and a fully featured Xbox app/DirectX12 support
All of the annoying Windows 8 stuff is gone or better integrated and the new start menu is fairly customizable.
The upgrade is free so why not? Lots of under the hood changes and performance improvements too, and actual great improvements to window management
All of the annoying Windows 8 stuff is gone or better integrated and the new start menu is fairly customizable.
The upgrade is free so why not? Lots of under the hood changes and performance improvements too, and actual great improvements to window management
They certainly could, but they've got a shiny new product so why would they want to sell you last season's model?
Mainstream support for Windows 7 ended this year. It still gets security and stability updates but it's not going to be getting any new features going forward. It's the same as the console cycle - we could support the PS3 and 360 for another 10 years, but what would the incentive be to move forward?
Chinbo37
Member
I haven't seen that ? Is that true ?
What kind of stuff for the window management?
TouchMyBox
Member
It has been true since the introduction of windows 8.
When I don't want to associate a Microsoft account with a windows install, i pull the ethernet cord when booting for the first time.
virus_of_life
Neo Member
Thanks.
Win 8.1 fixed many of the issues with Win 8, and Win 10 is the best of 7 and 8.1.
Its fast, its sleek and because of the free incentive MS is giving out its going to be absolutely massive.
I was not happy with Vista nor the original Win 8, but Win 7 and Win 8.1 have been great, MS has shown the ability to listen and fix problems.
And Win 10 really is a project that has been shaped by community feedback
Its fast, its sleek and because of the free incentive MS is giving out its going to be absolutely massive.
I was not happy with Vista nor the original Win 8, but Win 7 and Win 8.1 have been great, MS has shown the ability to listen and fix problems.
And Win 10 really is a project that has been shaped by community feedback
Steve Youngblood
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We're less than two months away from the final version release. I understand that some may think it's unnecessary that pre-release software isn't as stable as post-release software, but seeing as how Windows 10 is readily available now via Tech and Insider previews, I don't think it is all that unnecessary. It's easy to get carried away with the hype of the shiny new thing around the corner, and getting both sides of the story from people who have actually used Windows 10 can be helpful. It might even be prescient for the July 29th release. Who is to say that every issue people are reporting will be fixed in the next 50 days?
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