mikezilla2
Member
so i take it we still arnt out of the woods on this one ?
Upgrade to Windows 10?
- Thread starter Kagoshima_Luke
- Start date
There's nothing you "should" turn off. You should read the descriptions of the options offered to you, and decide for yourself whether you're OK with certain features and the trandeoffs which come with them. For example, if you want to use Cortana, you naturally need to allow Windows to send Microsoft some data which is inherently necessary to enable Cortana to work.
Or Wi-Fi Sense - the article you linked to basically says "here's why Wi-Fi sense is safe, but you should turn it off anyone because other people spread debunked nonsense about why it's so evil"
Or the "Choose how updates are delivered page". The page simply recommends you turn it off, but it doesn't tell you that you can keep it enabled for your local network while disabling it for the Internet - if you have a lot of PCs on your network, then this can help you a lot. Why download hundreds of updates for each PC in the household when you can just download them once and share between all PCs on your local network?
drotahorror
Member
Anything privacy related and unneeded apps are things I want to turn off. Cortana will be gone, the search bar in the bottom left can hopefully be turned into something that only searches your computer and not the internet.
dgrdsv
Member
Open the task manager and restart the Windows Explorer process at the bottom. Happens quite often, a known issue.
LostDonkey
Member
On my desktop it's totally fine, never had a single problem.
But on the Mrs laptop...
More often than not windows will boot up and no icons load at all on the task bar. Start menu doesn't work. It's as if it's frozen but I can still right click the start button and restart/shutdown, which I have to do to get everything to load up. Pain in the A.
drotahorror
Member
Just like the XB1 my PC downloads horrifically slow from the MS Store. I don't get it. Every other service maxes my connection, on any other device.
This has been the case with 2 different routers too. One cheap one from my ISP and a really expensive one.
This has been the case with 2 different routers too. One cheap one from my ISP and a really expensive one.
You could probably fix it by resetting the start menu. This is how I fixed my issue of some apps not being indexed by search. Problem is that resetting the start menu is an annoying and fairly advanced process that requires knowing how to navigate a command prompt.
I don't have time to go into fine detail right now, but the gist of the procedure is to create a brand new user account, log into the new account, shift+restart into administrator command prompt, delete "C:\Users\broken_user\AppData\Local\TileDataLayer\Database", copy "C:\Users\new_user\AppData\Local\TileDataLayer\Database" over to "C:\Users\broken_user\AppData\Local\TileDataLayer", reboot, and delete the new user.
So if you go from 7 to 10 what happens to all your installed programs? What happens to anything you may have installed on a second or third hard drive?
I've been backing up stuff for weeks preparing to move to 10 but haven't got any information on any other precautions I need to make.
I've been backing up stuff for weeks preparing to move to 10 but haven't got any information on any other precautions I need to make.
In most cases, all installed programs will remain intact.
However, there is the possibility than an "incompatible" program will be removed, so making backups is a good idea. Removed programs will also be kept in a "Windows.old" folder, so be sure to dig through it after upgrading.
It's a good thing you're making backups, as it gives you the option to do a clean install of Windows 10 if something goes wrong.
drotahorror
Member
I would do a clean install. If you upgrade you'll keep everything on your OS drive, course you'll delete everything/forma if you do a clean install (only on the drive you want windows on). Since you have more than 1 hard drive and have backed a lot of things up there's no reason imo to do an upgrade and deal with potential issues.
After you get fully updated in W10, check your task manager (ctrl+shift+esc) and see if your CPU usage is abnormal.
Before I reverted back to W7 last year, when I upgraded to W10 my CPU usage was sitting @ 95-100% and the clock speeds were running at max too.
I ended up having to flash my bios. So that's one thing to be on the lookout for.
Also, and I'm not sure why this problem isn't fixed. If you run @ 125% dpi scaling or higher in your display settings, most programs (like steam, installers, etc) will be 25% bigger and result in everything looking blurry. Windows 10 does not scale things correctly if you go higher than 100% dpi scaling. I have a fix for this but I'm not at home. It requires a few lines of code in a notepad, save it as a cmd file and put in a startup folder. Can find it sometime if anyone needed it.
^I was shocked that this is still an issue. Also there is no fix at all if you run multiple monitors with higher dpi scaling.
Downloads for both systems come from established CDNs like Akamai and such, so they should be able to max out your internet connection with no problem. If you look in Task Manager on Windows 10, how fast is it downloading? And how fast is your connection?
petran79
Banned
All the programms remained intact on all drives. Start menu too.Some things were fixed too, eg Assasin's Creed 2 would not run on W7 with the existing username.
But some other issues appeared. Eg Windows Store would not boot at all. I had to create a new user in W10 to solve the issue.
Also Windowsblinds had issues since it messed the taskbar and I had to disable it.
Also Firefox browser started crashing when I launched any downloaded .exe from the download manager. Removed it and installed Seamonkey instead.
But the main issue was that by upgrading the system and keeping the old OS to another folder, HDD became fragmented and much slower.
Except disablig the unnecessary services like Windows Search Index (use Everything instead) and Cortana, I also had to defrag the HDD by using a good and commercial defragmenter. Took almost 15 hours. I also deleted the old W7 folder as I have it on the laptop too. Now W10 runs around the same speed as W7, though a little slower.
How many devices do you have?
A workaround is to open the Notifications, expand the notification settings, and enable Quiet Hours. This will mute all notifications, and you can always check them manually.
I've done this. It used to work, but now Windows Explorer just doesn't start after I hit the restart button. It'll stop, but then hangs on starting. My taskbar just goes black and has the loading wheel. I've waited upwards of an hour for it to resolve, but it never did. Now when it happens, I just restart, but having to do that 2-3 times a day is annoying.
I'll look more into this one. Is there a step by step guide for this?
I would just switch back to Windows 7, but I use the streaming from Xbox One so often that I don't know if I would be able to switch easily.
Iorv3th
Member
I had the problem on my laptop when I first upgraded. Forgot what all I did but I know I did a SFC /scannow and chkdsk /f haven't had a problem with it after that. Been 8 months.
drotahorror
Member
Connection is 20Mbps.
I did as you said and watched in the task manager the speed fluctuates constantly. 20 (Mbps), 10, 22, 6, 20, 8, 18, 10, 18, 12,
I have a feeling that's what it does on my xb1 too. Both seem to download at similar rates.
I just started downloading a random steam game and it sits at 2.4MB's and never budges.
Thanks. I'm just afraid a clean install would take way too long to restore and reinstall everything, even for just the stuff on the OS drive. If makes any difference my OS drive is an SSD and it's only 128GB.
Iorv3th
Member
Just make sure you have enough free space available. After it updates test and make sure everything works. Then if you don't want to go back to windows 7 delete windows.old through disk cleanup (it took up about 40GB on my ssd).
Jesus. I need to make some space. No way to move it somewhere else?
Templar Wizard
Member
I have a question about streaming from xbox one to win 10.
Does the window HAVE to be fullscreen? or can I resize? I just cant seem to find it
Does the window HAVE to be fullscreen? or can I resize? I just cant seem to find it
dgrdsv
Member
That's strange. Do you have any antivirus or something running when doing this?
I'll try to explain the tricky parts. Disclaimer: I haven't fully tested these commands, hopefully it all works.
After creating a new user, navigate to the C:\Users\ folder. Take note of the folder representing your current user and the folder representing your new user.
Shift+restart into administrator command prompt: open Start > Power, hold the left Shift key when you click Restart. Click Troubleshoot > Advanced options > Command Prompt. Once the computer reboots, log in as your primary user.
Backup the Database folder: Enter these commands into the command prompt one line at a time, replacing broken_user with your username. I'm assuming you installed Windows on your C drive as well.
Code:
C:
cd "C:\Users\broken_user\AppData\Local\TileDataLayer\"
rename Database Database_backup
Code:
mkdir Database
cd Database
xcopy "C:\Users\new_user\AppData\Local\TileDataLayer\Database\" .
Code:
exit
Xplatformer
Member
Well...i've bitched about Windows 10 in the past...but after doing a full wipe and clean install... this is a pretty sweet OS.
Aesthetic glitches aside (should be a fookin' dark theme option for us Home users) I've used this baby for a week and it's been damn rock solid. Me like.
Doubt I'll ever go back to 7.
Aesthetic glitches aside (should be a fookin' dark theme option for us Home users) I've used this baby for a week and it's been damn rock solid. Me like.
Doubt I'll ever go back to 7.
DonMigs85
Member
It's lighter on the system as well and feels pretty snappy even with a mechanical HDD thanks to the memory compression feature.
drotahorror
Member
I'm having some issues with windows 10 on my tablet. It normally starts in that big tile mode but now it goes to desktop mode.
I can't click on anything, can't click on notifications, start button, nothing. I can right click though by holding my finger down on anything. It still won't open the action center but I can get into the task manager.
Dunno what to do. I can't get into tablet mode or really do much of anything.
Looks like I had to do this
1. Open the Task manager. Here’s a tip: Press CTRL+Shift+ESC.
2. Click File > Run New Task
3. Make sure you have a check mark beside “Create this task with administrative privileges”
4. Type Powershell
5. Type the following in the Powershell prompt:
Get-AppXPackage -AllUsers | Foreach {Add-AppxPackage -DisableDevelopmentMode -Register "$($_.InstallLocation)\AppXManifest.xml"}
6. Close the Powershell window
7. Reboot
Can't believe I did that first try typing on a tablet.
I can't click on anything, can't click on notifications, start button, nothing. I can right click though by holding my finger down on anything. It still won't open the action center but I can get into the task manager.
Dunno what to do. I can't get into tablet mode or really do much of anything.
Looks like I had to do this
1. Open the Task manager. Here’s a tip: Press CTRL+Shift+ESC.
2. Click File > Run New Task
3. Make sure you have a check mark beside “Create this task with administrative privileges”
4. Type Powershell
5. Type the following in the Powershell prompt:
Get-AppXPackage -AllUsers | Foreach {Add-AppxPackage -DisableDevelopmentMode -Register "$($_.InstallLocation)\AppXManifest.xml"}
6. Close the Powershell window
7. Reboot
Can't believe I did that first try typing on a tablet.
I've only ever done fresh installs of OSs.
A fresh install of the OS, and a download of the latest drivers from the manufacturers website. I can't remember ever having a problem ever with a computer after doing this.
I think I'm gonna pull the trigger this weekend. Pretty much everything on the C drive is backed up.
Man I really hope I don't have to do a clean install. A couple things on the C drive would be too much of a hassle to reinstall. Example: I have Steam installed on the C drive but all the games are on other drives. I have no idea what that would do.
Man I really hope I don't have to do a clean install. A couple things on the C drive would be too much of a hassle to reinstall. Example: I have Steam installed on the C drive but all the games are on other drives. I have no idea what that would do.
Sanctuary
Member
It shouldn't do anything from simply upgrading. It's supposed to leave the registry association with your installed programs alone for the most part. Regardless, why not just backup your Steam game saves and do a clean install anyway? Simple OS upgrades may, or may not be good, depending on how long it's been since you did a fresh OS install of what you're currently using, as well as how often you install or uninstall things.
For starters I wouldn't want to reinstall all the games (among a few other programs on my C drive). Games are huge these days, I barely have the hard drive space to back them all up, and I can't exactly redownload them all with my internet speed and data cap.
When I got a new laptop, I simply copied over my steamapps folder which allowed me to keep my Steam games without reinstalling everything.
But yeah other programs will probably require some setup after a clean install.
Xplatformer
Member
I'm not sure you need to do anything before the wipe.
My Steamapps folder is on my D: drive. When I did my clean install of Win10 all I had to do was (in Steam) direct the steam app to the Steamapps folder on the D drive. When I clicked on each game title I think each took about 30 seconds to sync, but I didn't have to redownload anything.
There have got to be instructions somewhere on the internet that cover doing a clean install without having to reinstall games that are on an extra hard drive.
I had the same experience, what Graphics card do you have?
[Intel i7 870, GTX970, Win10 Pro]
I powered off the PC, and just swapped all my drives back and booted back into 7.
Sidenote: I didn't have to 'upgrade' with Win10 Pro from a Windows 7 Ultimate key. it let me do a clean install on a fresh drive.
Spacejaws
Member
Be careful if you are using junction links. I have the majority of my steam games backed up on an external drive with all the junction links to them so if I see an update I can hook up the drive and it will patch them. I then have a smaller repository of games I'm currently playing on my lappy's drive (although most work off the external. Played Dark Souls to completion off a 128GB usb pen drive).
So as I've said they patch fine but if I did a verify or I have to have it scan for currently installed files 90% of the time it proceeded to redownload all files and even if I deleted the downloded data, moved the files into my steamapps folder and tried again it still scanned all the files But continued to download everythin anyway. I had to do this for my 3tb library and it was a bitch when a game failed to recognize and needed to download 40gigs again.
Oh shit. I think I have a junction link for iTunes. All my downloaded iOS apps (30+ GB worth) are stored on a secondary drive. Hopefully I'll just be able to make the link again.
Apparently, the battery is also dying, along with a couple other hardware issues according to the diagnostic I ran. Its better to just get a new one overall.
Most issues with Windows 10 come from upgrading. A laptop that comes with Windows 10 pre-installed should be totally fine.
infiniteloop
Member
Is there a way to figure out when the Windows 10 upgrade happened? Trying to troubleshoot an issue for the in laws.
I'm trying to do the upgrade through Windows Update but I can't get the update to show up. I think I canceled it once months ago but the "windowsupdatebox" thing and the tmp file were still in there. One of the guides told me to delete that stuff and make Windows Update check again to redownload Windows 10 but I can't get it to do that.
You can grab the update directly from Microsoft. This is the same thing Windows Update uses: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
Got the program. Doesn't do anything.
Can't really recommend doing a win10 upgrade. The few I've done have had really strange issues. The clean install route is highly recommended. To get licensed though you have to do an ugrade first, then your PC will be marked by ms as having a valid license. If you jump right into a clean install you won't be activated.
Win10 is a good OS. Sometimes it can act junky, but it scales to modern hardware very well. My largest gripe is the continuation of 2 control panels and the orginization of what is under each. That's a mess and comes off as low rent Linux distro like. But otherwise just accept your software-as-a-service future. Nothing you can do about it anyway.
Win10 is a good OS. Sometimes it can act junky, but it scales to modern hardware very well. My largest gripe is the continuation of 2 control panels and the orginization of what is under each. That's a mess and comes off as low rent Linux distro like. But otherwise just accept your software-as-a-service future. Nothing you can do about it anyway.
Similar threads
- Poll