There is a parry... kind of. There is a skill you can unlock where if you time a block properly you will stagger the attacker
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There is a parry... kind of. There is a skill you can unlock where if you time a block properly you will stagger the attacker
It doesn't seem too useful early on, since majority of the attacks are magic and grabs, or is there a skill that will allow me to parry/reflect magic attacks later on? (Using Reina)
TyrantGuardian
Member
I've been playing this on the highest difficulty (because I'm a stupid moron) right of the bat and there are certainly pros and cons to this game. I just beat the fourth boss, which took me about two hours of retries. There's a lot of things to learn about each encounter, and most attempts gave me lots of new ideas, so... off to a good start. However, there are certain problems that become amazingly frustrating quickly.
Unlike, say, Super Meat Boy, it rarely felt like my deaths were fair and completely my own fault. Instead, the boss randomly decided to forego certain things in his pattern for no apparent reason, the wall grab falling to register because it requires a pretty counter-intuitive input and the worst part of all... There's a hugely punishing cooldown on the only defensive measure you have - the cancel dodge. This meant I had to play around the boss and stay passive for several seconds at a time because any offensive move is quickly punished if you cannot i-frame out of it. This becomes a huge problem because the boss pretty much requires you to stay on him with permanent aggression in order to not get overwhelmed by adds etc. Literally a single fuck-up (due to some quirk of the controls) would completely ruin your momentum and destroy any chance of further pressure on the boss itself. In the end, I managed to do a flawless attempt, but it honestly didn't feel very satisfying at all.
Such a shame, because a game like this is something I've long dreamed about. It kind of feels like the devs didn't really design their game around being able to perfectly play through the hardest difficulty, which you can tell that games like DMC (an apt comparison when it comes to difficulty) certainly were. Still, I'll keep playing it because it is so challenging. Definitely worth the sale price.
Unlike, say, Super Meat Boy, it rarely felt like my deaths were fair and completely my own fault. Instead, the boss randomly decided to forego certain things in his pattern for no apparent reason, the wall grab falling to register because it requires a pretty counter-intuitive input and the worst part of all... There's a hugely punishing cooldown on the only defensive measure you have - the cancel dodge. This meant I had to play around the boss and stay passive for several seconds at a time because any offensive move is quickly punished if you cannot i-frame out of it. This becomes a huge problem because the boss pretty much requires you to stay on him with permanent aggression in order to not get overwhelmed by adds etc. Literally a single fuck-up (due to some quirk of the controls) would completely ruin your momentum and destroy any chance of further pressure on the boss itself. In the end, I managed to do a flawless attempt, but it honestly didn't feel very satisfying at all.
Such a shame, because a game like this is something I've long dreamed about. It kind of feels like the devs didn't really design their game around being able to perfectly play through the hardest difficulty, which you can tell that games like DMC (an apt comparison when it comes to difficulty) certainly were. Still, I'll keep playing it because it is so challenging. Definitely worth the sale price.
man, fuck Magus, I give up, can't beat her when the angel dude spawns, I couldn't find a way to even attack it without getting hit since it hovers above Magus below a platform at all times while I'm dodging all the swords 
Plus it takes forever to get her health down to that stage.
I've retried enough that I'm going to unlock the 40 retries achievement soon :lol
Plus it takes forever to get her health down to that stage.I've retried enough that I'm going to unlock the 40 retries achievement soon :lol
man, fuck Magus, I give up, can't beat her when the angel dude spawns, I couldn't find a way to even attack it without getting hit since it hovers above Magus below a platform at all times while I'm dodging all the swords
I've retried enough that I'm going to unlock the 40 retries achievement soon :lol
I just brute forced the angel, in focus mode if available. Maybe you're just lacking in dps?
Yeah, probably spent too much points on the wrong stuff
I watched a few videos and they just hack away at the boss and its life goes down like 5 times quicker :lol
DrROBschiz
Member
Looks rad!
Is the developer on twitter so I can request a Vita port
Is the developer on twitter so I can request a Vita port
It's come in handy for some boss fights, especially once you get their patterns down. I have tried deflecting projectiles though. I read through the skills though and nothing mentioned it
Bought this game during the Winter Sale, and I'm really liking it so far. The art style is a little uninspired, as are the story and characters, but the combat and Metroidvania structure are enough to keep me playing through to the end most likely.
It could have used a little more polish in terms of art assets and controls, but its core design is very solid and enjoyable. I'd recommend picking this up even at full price on Steam to anyone who likes Metroidvanias.
Oh, I forgot to mention the music! It's really good. All of the tracks are suitably moody yet pulse-pounding at the same time, just how a game done in the Castelvania style should be.
It could have used a little more polish in terms of art assets and controls, but its core design is very solid and enjoyable. I'd recommend picking this up even at full price on Steam to anyone who likes Metroidvanias.
Oh, I forgot to mention the music! It's really good. All of the tracks are suitably moody yet pulse-pounding at the same time, just how a game done in the Castelvania style should be.
The best part about getting the highest rank isn't just that you, well, get a higher rank, but that you also get more exp from the boss kill AND a better stats reward.
PandaPedinte
Member
man, fuck Magus, I give up, can't beat her when the angel dude spawns, I couldn't find a way to even attack it without getting hit since it hovers above Magus below a platform at all times while I'm dodging all the swords
I've retried enough that I'm going to unlock the 40 retries achievement soon :lol
I was also having problems against her so I changed my playstyle and started to use more spells against her. When she enters the defensive stance use an ofensive spell to break it and continue with a combo. When the angel appeared I just ignored it and kept focusing in the crystal and in Magus, imo it's better to hit her two or three times and take your time to dodge the swords and the angels projectiles than land a 10 hit combo and not have the time to dodge the other attacks.
masterlobo
Banned
I saw the trailer and while it looked cool something was very off-putting to me
The SFX.
Some of them are literally taken from the RPG Maker's RTP. I have extensively used RPG Maker, and therefore I am so tired of those sound effects (they've recycled some of them for years).
Anyways, the game does look nice. I just wanted to post this little bit of trivia out.
The SFX.
Some of them are literally taken from the RPG Maker's RTP. I have extensively used RPG Maker, and therefore I am so tired of those sound effects (they've recycled some of them for years).
Anyways, the game does look nice. I just wanted to post this little bit of trivia out.
witchedwiz
Member
I'll bite on the next sale i guess
Ingueferroque
Banned
I bought it, should I wait to play it? Or is this 'finished' besides the upcoming free DLC?
Glad people are recognizing this. It's a lot of fun. I'm not the hardcore S-rank hunter that so many people in here seem to be, but it's working out just fine for me. It's definitely lacking polish in some fairly trivial areas (backgrounds vary wildly in quality, lack of tutorials/explanation for a lot of mechanics, magic casting is a little wonky, and I think the font looks a little amateurish), but it hasn't been anything that's slowed me down or really hampered my enjoyment of the game. Definitely worth it.
I think the art style is extremely well executed, even if it is a little uninspired. I'm actually a little hesitant to even call it that because I do really like it overall, and I generally hate the anime look. Has to be doing something right if I find it enjoyable.
I think the art style is extremely well executed, even if it is a little uninspired. I'm actually a little hesitant to even call it that because I do really like it overall, and I generally hate the anime look. Has to be doing something right if I find it enjoyable.
Thanks to that jerk Gotchaye I've developed a condition where I have to S-rank every boss I come across in my first playthrough (on Hard). The exceptions are the first boss, since I wasn't gunning for S at the time and don't want to restart yet (got an A on him so the reward was still decent), and the Yeti whom I fought at level 3 with default equipment and thus didn't do very well in the time ranking.
It's a sickness, but boy is it fun.
It's a sickness, but boy is it fun.
Thanks for the bump; wouldn't have known about the sale otherwise. I've had my eye on this for awhile. Always down for a quality Metroidvania, plus the soundtrack is fantastic. One of the best (and longest, at 3+ hours) indie soundtracks I've ever heard.
http://zackparrish.bandcamp.com/album/valdis-story-abyssal-city
http://zackparrish.bandcamp.com/album/valdis-story-abyssal-city
Thanks for the advice, she'll pay on my new playthrough!
Iorv3th
Member
I have noticed some frame rate drops when jumping during certain parts.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
Was a console version ever hinted at? I can't remember.
Yes, I'm using a 360 pad. You can change the button scheme as well.
I think the best way to take them down is by running right in their face and blocking, after they do a shield bash you have to dash right behind them, you should be able to get a few hits in.
I preferred using the keyboard because the 360's d-pad is so utterly terrible and I don't like using analog sticks in precision-heavy 2D games with digital movement. But that's just me, 360 pad works fine otherwise and is very easy to set up nowadays.
http://www.valdisstory.com/lostcrew
Are these playable DLC characters? there are so many :O
ed: Ah nvm they're all assist characters.
Are these playable DLC characters? there are so many :O
ed: Ah nvm they're all assist characters.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
I think this game is really cool, but just one pickle...I think the story telling could've been a little better.
Other than that, it's a cool game.
Other than that, it's a cool game.
I saw the trailer and while it looked cool something was very off-putting to me
The SFX.
Some of them are literally taken from the RPG Maker's RTP. I have extensively used RPG Maker, and therefore I am so tired of those sound effects (they've recycled some of them for years).
Anyways, the game does look nice. I just wanted to post this little bit of trivia out.
I'm not familiar with RPGM, so it shouldn't bother me. I was playing Guacamelee, and as someone with several hundred hours in Quake 3, the jumping "grunt" sound being exactly the same fucked with me the entire playthrough.
It's FRAPS
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
I'm glad this sell got the game some more exposure 
OniBarubary
Banned
As am I!
Very cool that it's getting a lot more play and press.
What's really funny is I went Magic-Heavy on my first playthrough and had next to no problems with bosses up until the Raven.
Aaaaaaaah ha ha ha ha.
Fuck the Raven.
Very cool that it's getting a lot more play and press.
What's really funny is I went Magic-Heavy on my first playthrough and had next to no problems with bosses up until the Raven.
Aaaaaaaah ha ha ha ha.
Fuck the Raven.
PandaPedinte
Member
My hate for Mana Caves is only surpassed by my hate against Guardian Temple. Spoilers ahead
did anyone killed Dhistahn in the Sewers? I decided to not kill him and he appeared later in the fight against Azudor only to bring more headache for me. Is it possible to kill him preventing Azudor to suck his power?
Jawmuncher
Member
Definitely in the same boat.
Went in blind and i'm really enjoying it thus far.
It's R for M+KB but doesn't show up in the controls menu for some reason. Not sure if there's any unused buttons left on the 360 pad, if there are you could just bind that to R with JoyToKey or a similar program.
I just ran into an eye of alagath dude and he kicked my ass
You can change your button configuration though, I have cancel mapped to O on a dualshock
You can change your button configuration though, I have cancel mapped to O on a dualshock
PandaPedinte
Member
Has anyone tried a pure Luck build? Sounds fun and I may do it once I start a new game.
Unbound By Death
Member
Missile, is that you?
Heh my thoughts as well.
RB wasn't bound to anything so I set that to cancel. Working well for me so far.
OniBarubary
Banned
I was going to. Normally whenever a game gives me a luck stat I do a completely separate luck game for it. Dunno which character it would work best with though.
Also, I was sorta annoyed at the dash cancel at first as I kept randomly hitting it but later on I became quite used to it. Sliding my thumb from down to a direction is wicked easy and gives me pretty good control now. That being said, I may reassign it and give it a Mega Man style dash position since I'm also really used to Megaman X style dashing.
Ah well. Time to find more crew members. Gotta catch 'em all so Wyatt can make sarcastic-ass remarks at them.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
This game definitely has the best boss battles of any game of it's type that's for sure
Pejo
Member
Loving this game so far. Picked it up due to the steam sales and have been chipping away at it. My biggest problem a few hours in, is finding where i'm supposed to go next. I wish there was a better map system, as well as a notification of which rooms still contain treasure similar to Super Metroid.
Some of those jumping switch puzzles had me in full on rage mode though.
Some of those jumping switch puzzles had me in full on rage mode though.