Thanks, good to know! I really love the art style and atmosphere of the game, just a bit put off by the initial fights. I'll keep at it.
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Thanks, good to know! I really love the art style and atmosphere of the game, just a bit put off by the initial fights. I'll keep at it.
afternoon delight
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Going to stay out of this thread till I hit double-digit chapters but I fucking love this game already. The combat is so crisp, so satisfying.
Tank boss level in chapter 7.
Holy hell this game. What a fight. Haven't actually beaten it but I came so close, after having recovered from a major screw up halfway through.
That said, the invncible lady who arrives is pretty cheap. And impossible to plan for unless you have played the level before - one of my guys got fucked cause I left him in the area she arrives at. And then most of my team got wiped out by her in like one turn (this is what I was able to recover from).
Holy hell this game. What a fight. Haven't actually beaten it but I came so close, after having recovered from a major screw up halfway through.
That said, the invncible lady who arrives is pretty cheap. And impossible to plan for unless you have played the level before - one of my guys got fucked cause I left him in the area she arrives at. And then most of my team got wiped out by her in like one turn (this is what I was able to recover from).
Elfforkusu
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Yeah, I would say Chapter 5 is the start of the game giving you some interesting options to play with.
It continues to open up from there. The back half of the game is completely insane strategy-wise. The best SRPG gameplay hands down, IMO.
I just wish it had randomized enemy placement...
CertifiedFP
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Eh, I don't think random enemies is what the game needed, it needed AI that played to actively win, rather than rest on it's laurels and attempt to defend for 20 turns.
LurkerPrime
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Protip for Chapter 16: You are probably fast enough.
That is all.
That is all.
Lamest mission in the game. I was actually confused in my second run (
botched my first because I thought I could leave the Edelweiss in the "wrong" path.
LurkerPrime
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So, I beat the game. It's a lot of fun, even on the standard difficulty. Some of the later missions drag a bit, but other than that it's a wholly enjoyable game. They did a good job with the credit sequence - it is no afterthought.
I'm particularly pleased that the game answered one of the Big Questions posed throughout the journey.
If only they had answered some of the other questions..
From the stuff established throughout and how it ends, they seem to have perfectly set up the franchise for a prequel or two, near and far. Very sad that this never happened.
If it helps even one person it will have served its purpose.
I'm particularly pleased that the game answered one of the Big Questions posed throughout the journey.
Who is Irene Koller, author of the Gallian Front?
Who exactly is the Old Gentleman is the most prominent, but Yaeger and even Drill Instructor beckoned for a more prominent role in the future.
From the stuff established throughout and how it ends, they seem to have perfectly set up the franchise for a prequel or two, near and far. Very sad that this never happened.
Probably not. Nonetheless, I think it's rather easy to misunderstand how the mission's gimmick works, hence my protip.
If it helps even one person it will have served its purpose.
Like a lot of the more prolonged missions, I'd guess that it's a lot more interesting on Hard/NG+ whatever.
Probably the most important tip of the game. lol
Just such a poorly designed mission. I guess they just couldn't figure out how to incorporate the "theme" of running away from a tank properly. Maybe if there were more intercepting enemies?
I can assure you, it's not. It's getting even lamer.
Btw. Story missions don't change in NG+ and there is only one difficulty for them.
LurkerPrime
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Oh, so they're the same? That's unfortunate.
I don't understand what NG+ changes, in this case. Does it just change the level of enemies, not their placement or number?
Yeah... I was totally expecting ambushes around every turn, especially after I began to outpace
the Marmota.
Then again I was playing it "the easy way" because
I let Zaka get run over in the beginning. He's so awesome for that stuff.
I think there's no real way to salvage the mission just because of how the game is designed - As in, in the final game, moving your army's CP cost scales with your army size. It's probably one of those things where a mission concept got unfortunately negatively affected by iterative balance/design changes but the mission was already in the game, assets/programming and all so they just gave it bare minimum token enemies and called it a day.
LurkerPrime
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Nice thanks for the tip. Just got it from there for $12.
LurkerPrime
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So... that Selvaria DLC. I'd be upset if I had purchased that separately. Far too brief and inconsequential for my tastes.
Is the Edy DLC roughly the same in structure? I don't know that I can stand hearing her voice to begin with...
There are missions where enemy reinforcements arrive from "off-screen" so they'll appear out of nowhere. IIRC the mission briefings give some degree of warning when it will happen.
Then again I completely lucked out during chapter
when it happened. If I had gone with my "take the high ground" strategy the entire mission would've been a wash.
Sometimes failure is the path to success.
Is the Edy DLC roughly the same in structure? I don't know that I can stand hearing her voice to begin with...
There are missions where enemy reinforcements arrive from "off-screen" so they'll appear out of nowhere. IIRC the mission briefings give some degree of warning when it will happen.
Then again I completely lucked out during chapter
seven
Sometimes failure is the path to success.
Here's an odd question. I played it originally when it first came out and didn't beat it. I'm curious what chapter I was on and how many there are in total.
The chapter I was stuck on
The chapter I was stuck on
I remember it being a big city, with train tracks and you had to stop a train in the distance on another set of tracks.
LurkerPrime
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Well, reaction fire is still more powerful than in the console version, which just means that you have to plan better. One problem would be the big trenches on Naggiar where you can drive your tanks in, but barely out. Not that you need to, but it's a bother no less.
All in all the game is good playable with 60 fps though.
Thanks, it sounds manageable enough. I'm guessing the reaction fire buff works both ways. I remember reading some impressions where the tank had issues with inclines. Do you have to wiggle your way out of trenches or something?
Yep, the inception fire works both ways. Makes Shocks more useful.
And well, the Shamrock can wiggle her way out, but the Edelweiss just has big trouble getting out of it. I never managed it.
LurkerPrime
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CertifiedFP
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Anyone have a video or more advanced guide for how that trick to kill all three Batomys radiators at once works? My infantry mortars can't muster up the splash to hit all of them at once - And even then it's barely any damage, and the Edelweiss mortars don't do jack to them at all. Are orders involved in this?
SatelliteOfLove
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I found myself fighting the urge to treat my Lancers like place kickers and "bench" them when they shanked too many shots. I was getting seriously superstitious past chapter 8, lol.
StarCreator
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Shocktroopers are much better for defensive purposes during enemy phases and are a little meatier for punching through defended positions that happen to be within their movement range.
OldAsUrSock
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Scouts make way for the shocktroopers to steamroll through. You really only need one or two shocktroopers per battle because the first turn or two will be for scouts.
Haha same. For example, Largo sucks, but Elyse and Jann are my champs.
Lol I havent been playing right then. I havent used scouts the whole way through - rely on Shocktroopers entirely.
Three more missions to go until the game is over. Tried and failed twice on the mission I'm on - but I have some ideas. I would try using scouts but they are under leveled - less than 11.
Ah well. 3 missions to go, I'll just power through.
StarCreator
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I just did a 70 minute or so stream of the game; I had the PS3 version set up for visiting family to play and it got me in the mood to finally start a PC playthrough. Recording of tonight's play is here: http://www.hitbox.tv/video/362014
It's about as goofy as you expect someone who doesn't really remember the maps at all trying to complete them in as few turns as possible anyway.
It's about as goofy as you expect someone who doesn't really remember the maps at all trying to complete them in as few turns as possible anyway.
SatelliteOfLove
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That's exactly who I settled on! I only break Largo out when I need the extra CP, Capt. Bancho there can ride pine with his Darcsen-hating ass, and Beatnik Boy always flubs his game-winning shots.
I guess my problem was thinking shocktroopers would be the core of my army, so, at first, I put like 4 of them in the battle, only to see my 2 scouts and snipers destroy everyone. Chapter 15 battle 2 right now!
The Awesomest
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I've got a problem. When I first met the Old Gentleman, he offered to teach me Retreat for some 6,000 EXP, which was more than I had, so I declined. I declined the second time he offered as well. Now I'm on chapter 7 and every other time I've visited him, he says he can't remember any orders to teach me. Did I break the old man?
The game answers this one pretty explicitly, I thought.
The game answers this one pretty explicitly, I thought.
Which is what the post you quoted says. :V
LurkerPrime
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I -think- the availability is randomized after every battle (including skirmishes?) which means that it's a roll of the die to see what you can get.
I never even saw that order until one of the last chapters, so expect it to pop up later on... if you hold the Old Gentleman's favour.
Haha, the game's really deceptive like that. I totally thought Shocktroopers, not scouts, would be the core of my army as well.
How wrong I was.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
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I wish a Final Fantasy Tactics sequel would release that follows the gameplay formula of this game.
That was my first thought after playing this game for the first time years ago. Directly controlling your character's turns really felt like an evolutionary step for the genre, and I hoped it would inspire other games to build on this style of play. FFT would be a perfect fit.
LurkerPrime
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I'd settle for another Valkyria Chronicles game that did the same thing.
Or an FFT sequel that wasn't advanced in any way...
I'd settle for a lot of things.
Heh, as a followup to my post earlier in the thread about scratching that itch I am 99% close to getting NAtURAL DOCtRINE just after new years because I hate myself and want to suffer.
edit: for the lazy: It's a similar first-person-tactics thingoo but ridiculously unforgiving set in a more fantasy universe.
edit: for the lazy: It's a similar first-person-tactics thingoo but ridiculously unforgiving set in a more fantasy universe.