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Valve Officially announces Source 2. (+ Steam Link + Steam Lighthouse)

Mabase

Member
So they announce Source 2 and that's all fine and dandy but was there a showcase of the games using said engine?

Good point. If Valve wants people to adopt Source 2 for the Vive launch (which is in less than a year), then either it must be very simple to port stuff over from other engines, or they're banking on other engines being enough in the first year or so.
 

cripterion

Member
Everything is still on going. They'll announce stuff over GDC via the universe page. Source 2 is looking to start by transitioning the active games to it for easier content creation. Doubt the graphics will be getting overhauled there. They'll showcase the full engine either at GDC to devs, on the universe page or some other time this year. Nothing is available yet

Yeah I remember news on Neogaf that they had a version of Left 4 Dead 2 running on the engine.

I would just like to see some footage :/
Feels like Valve hasn't released anything (besides Dota 2) for ages.
 

Nzyme32

Member
Good point. If Valve wants people to adopt Source 2 for the Vive launch (which is in less than a year), then either it must be very simple to port stuff over from other engines, or they're banking on other engines being enough in the first year or so.

How do you reach these conclusions. All they discussed was the aspect of it being much better for content creation that the original engine. Valve doesn't need anyone to adopt it, its just an engine at no cost - any money made is through Steam with a final product as any other game.

Info isn't complete yet and we already know that Dota2 and likely the other active games will transition to it. A new game is assured since it is the engine Valve will use, but the info is yet to come; even the universe page the press release points to is not updated
 
Man, lots of important announcements. I will buy the Steam Controller as soon as it becomes available as it solves a very real problem with my gaming habits. I want a controller that will allow me to play mouse&keyboard games from the couch and the controller is exactly what I need.
 

Mabase

Member
How do you reach these conclusions. All they discussed was the aspect of it being much better for content creation that the original engine. Valve doesn't need anyone to adopt it, its just an engine at no cost - any money made is through Steam with a final product as any other game.

True, but see the bigger picture and not just the monetization: Valve (unlike the other VR vendors) will -ideally- be able to offer

- the VR hardware
- the VR software (even if it's only ports and not Gordon Freeman 3)
- the VR controllers
- the VR Steam machines /Hardware
- the distribution model (Steam)

It only makes sense to push/entice its own

- VR middle ware, Source2

onto third parties, to ensure that all of these components work well with each other.

Knowing Valve Time® this will probably not all work flawlessly, immediately and right out of the box (then again, what does?), but Source 2 can (but actually MUST) connect the underlying infrastructure in an easy and cheap way.
 

Rivitur

Banned
No valve GDC press conference today after all... Just talking about"fundamental elements and practical considerations for using collision detection and physics simulations in games”
 
why is the Steam Stream Link only limited to the LAN :( could have taken a page from PS4 and enable wifi streaming too. Works perfect on the Vita/TV.
 
To anyone intrested in Source 2's potential features Facepunch members made a doc after the Workshop Tools Alpha went live last year.

At what time should I be not working and watching a liveblog tomorrow? I need to plan my day.

I don't care about the valve games ... Where is the controller? Where? When? And steam link is awesome. Will definetly pick that one up because building a dedicated streaming PC is more expensive and I have a good desktop anyway. No need for a second gaming PC.

The best bet to expect infos and updates to start coming is in the morning. I don't know when the show floor is opening, but dev sessions start at 9:30 am PST and the Steam daily store update is at 10 am PST, so I think that's a good time to start looking around for Valve-made announcement/updates. But the infos will be coming the whole day with press, dev and gamers hands-on and all that.
 

Lucifon

Junior Member
Steam Link...a little streaming box? Where is it in the UK store? Link just goes to Steam Store homepage.
 

JaseC

gave away the keys to the kingdom.
Steam Link...a little streaming box? Where is it in the UK store? Link just goes to Steam Store homepage.

The store page was taken down. It may reappear later, once Valve's sorted out purchase options.
 

Nzyme32

Member
Steam Link...a little streaming box? Where is it in the UK store? Link just goes to Steam Store homepage.

Store page was taken down. I get the impression they'll have to make a new section of the store for hardware. Probably more info on all of it today and tomorrow
 

EVH

Member
Weren't the meetings from Valve to talk about physics? Maybe they show the physics systems for Source 2?

I really want to see Source 2 running. The day it comes out as a form of Valve game is the day I buy a new laptop.
 

RiverBed

Banned
The Source 2 news, which came via press release, confirmed that the engine would be made available to all budding game and graphics developers for free, and that it would receive a Vulkan-compatible build (previously known as Next Generation OpenGL). However, the news was otherwise incredibly light on details, meaning no license-cost information, no release date, and no new or upcoming games attached to the engine.http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/...team-link-streaming-box-free-source-2-engine/

Backside pic:
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Palculator

Unconfirmed Member
Could you please explain further? Pretend you're talking to an infant child.

The stream is not sent over the internet but over your local network. The speed is not tied to your internet speed.

Edit: Think of it like your ping is much lower at a LAN party than over a regular internet server.
 
Could you please explain further? Pretend you're talking to an infant child.

It uses Steam In-Home Streaming. It's between devices on the same network, either wired or wireless or both. So, either connected by Wifi router or by ethernet cables, or powerline or a mix of them. The streaming goes through that and not the internet.
 
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Deleted member 125677

Unconfirmed Member
Definitely getting the Steam Link if it has good performance! :D
 

Dmax3901

Member
The stream is not sent over the internet but over your local network. The speed is not tied to your internet speed.

Edit: Think of it like your ping is much lower at a LAN party than over a regular internet server.

It uses Steam In-Home Streaming. It's between devices on the same network, either wired or wireless or both. So, either connected by Wifi router or by ethernet cables, or powerline or a mix of them. The streaming goes through that and not the internet.

So what determines the speed of the streaming?
 

Xyber

Member
Could you please explain further? Pretend you're talking to an infant child.

Internet speed doesn't matter for local streaming. You have a 1Gbit (or 100Mbit on older hardware) link between your PC and router (if wired), that's the connection it uses for local streaming.
 

ekim

Member
btw: is the text in the OP coming from a press release?

When can we expect to see the Steam controller?
 
Very excited about all the engine news for the past few days. Hopefully we will see Source 2 climbing up there with Unity and UE, which didn't really happen with Source.
 
btw: is the text in the OP coming from a press release?

When can we expect to see the Steam controller?

Yes, it's press release.

and this is my guess

The best bet to expect infos and updates to start coming is in the morning. I don't know when the show floor is opening, but dev sessions start at 9:30 am PST and the Steam daily store update is at 10 am PST, so I think that's a good time to start looking around for Valve-made announcement/updates. But the infos will be coming the whole day with press, dev and gamers hands-on and all that.

Very excited about all the engine news for the past few days. Hopefully we will see Source 2 climbing up there with Unity and UE, which didn't really happen with Source.

I'm not expecting it since those two have bigger teams dedicated to their engines, that's their main thing.
 

sprinkles

Member
I will definitely get a Steamlink or two for the living room (to remove the long ass HDMI cable from the office) and the bedroom TVs. Only downside is the long wait until November.

I am curious about the tech of Lighthouse. Will the consumer version of the Rift be compatible?
 

Khaz

Member
Yes, 50 bucks makes it an instant purchase for me.

I guess you could put a Raspberry Pi in a nice box and have the same functions and more... for less. You'd have to configure it though, Steam Link is probably plug and play.
 

Seanspeed

Banned
It uses Steam In-Home Streaming. It's between devices on the same network, either wired or wireless or both. So, either connected by Wifi router or by ethernet cables, or powerline or a mix of them. The streaming goes through that and not the internet.
OH. I was confused about that as well.

I think I'm gonna pick up this Steam Link w/controller but figured I'd probably want to turn the res down to 720p or so to get 60fps(which I'd be fine with for many games). Sounds like 1080p might be a bit easier, then. A 200MB Powerline connection should be more than enough, right(I get little to no loss through this connection to my living room where the router is)?
 
Does anyone know if Steam Home Streaming (and therefore, Steam Link) works with Steam games that are in the background on the PC? (Games running in window mode, but hidden under other windows)

For example - a family member wants to play a Steam game on my PC, but they want to play it in the living room. So they use the Steam Link to play the game there. But the game is now taking up the entire screen on my PC in my bedroom, which I need for work. If I run the game in windowed mode and put it in the background (not even minimized, just hidden under other windows), would the game still be running fine streamed to the Steam Link?
 
OH. I was confused about that as well.

I think I'm gonna pick up this Steam Link w/controller but figured I'd probably want to turn the res down to 720p or so to get 60fps(which I'd be fine with for many games). Sounds like 1080p might be a bit easier, then. A 200MB Powerline connection should be more than enough, right(I get little to no loss through this connection to my living room where the router is)?

I have no idea how good powerline is, ask in the streaming thread.

Does anyone know if Steam Home Streaming (and therefore, Steam Link) works with Steam games that are in the background on the PC? (Games running in window mode, but hidden under other windows)

For example - a family member wants to play a Steam game on my PC, but they want to play it in the living room. So they use the Steam Link to play the game there. But the game is now taking up the entire screen on my PC in my bedroom, which I need for work. If I run the game in windowed mode and put it in the background (not even minimized, just hidden under other windows), would the game still be running fine streamed to the Steam Link?

It locks the host down.
 

Seanspeed

Banned
Does anyone know if Steam Home Streaming (and therefore, Steam Link) works with Steam games that are in the background on the PC? (Games running in window mode, but hidden under other windows)

For example - a family member wants to play a Steam game on my PC, but they want to play it in the living room. So they use the Steam Link to play the game there. But the game is now taking up the entire screen on my PC in my bedroom, which I need for work. If I run the game in windowed mode and put it in the background (not even minimized, just hidden under other windows), would the game still be running fine streamed to the Steam Link?
I was under the impression that this is not possible and that yes, it means you cant use your PC for something else.
 

Nzyme32

Member
I was under the impression that this is not possible and that yes, it means you cant use your PC for something else.

Correct. Way back in january 2013, Gabe's original vision was that a computer would act as a server for multiple game calls simultaneously to other devices. Gradually since most of that is happening, I think that is an eventual goal
 

LiquidMetal14

hide your water-based mammals
I think I will buy this and a Steam pad. For 50, as an AIO, it's super attractive. If it does everything my laptop did to do in home streaming then I can't look at this is anything else but a bargain.
 

Roshin

Member
Very tempted to say yes to these considering the addition of Music and Videos to Steam and the recent app type inclusions suggesting the ability to purchase new media. Hoping to see streaming services too, then it will assuredly be my smart TV companion

On a whim I added Chrome, Kodi, Spotify, Battle.net, Origin, and iTunes to Steam. They all launch fine, with the exception of iTunes. I'll have to look closer on that one. From a streaming point of view, I'd say it looks very promising.
 
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Deleted member 102362

Unconfirmed Member
The store page was taken down. It may reappear later, once Valve's sorted out purchase options.

And added genuine rebates items.

If I can use Steam wallet to get the controller, then I think I will.
 
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