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Valve Officially announces Source 2. (+ Steam Link + Steam Lighthouse)
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And yet totally ignorant about it.
As if all they did was copy paste WC3 Dota into Dota 2.
Or players are 'scared' of more maps. No, if you actually knew anything about the game, you would know the entire game is balanced specifically around how the map is set up and all the mechanics it entails.
Also Custom Maps, and how excited the population are for those. So really you were talking a bunch of crap.
SteveWinwood
Member
its close enough for the people coming in here and complaining they dont have anything to show
what do you want a stupid render of a fairy woman dancing with a bird
Zeyphersan
Banned
I would pay a small convenience tax on my next computer if I didn't have to find all the parts and build it myself. Like I've built a lot of computers, I can easily do it, but at some point you just gotta ask yourself if you want to put in the work to gather all the parts, put them together, and possibly troubleshoot, or do you want to buy a box
I'm sorta at the "buy a box" stage of my life, even if it's more expensive. (Depending on how much more expensive)
Being the best (Dota 2) in its respective genre doesn't mean much when said genre is utterly horrible. I know people enjoy it and that's great, but for a lot of Valve's traditional fans (ie fans of HL, CS, TF, etc) it's frustrating seeing them put so much focus on Dota and microtransaction content. I mean I get it. It makes a lot of money. But at the same time I feel pretty ignored as a longtime Valve fan, and I doubt I'm the only one that feels that way. They need to find a better balance.
As for TF2 and CS:GO, they're both very good games but TF2 was imo much better when it stuck with a simple formula before they totally restructured the game into a money printing machine. It was fine at first, but they went too far with it. Unfortunately CS:GO seems to be going in the same direction...
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Welp.
Zeyphersan
Banned
As long as it's free to make an account, indefinitely.
SteveWinwood
Member
literally every single fraction of valves fanbase feels ignored
tf2 has like 3 people on it and everyone was disappointed with that last fan update, hats, whatever
csgo bitches about servers every day, cheating, skins, the market
dota complains about new content (the lack of it) all the time, hats, balance, and theres like 10 people on that team right now
heavy steam client users talk about upcoming (har har) features and bugs endlessly
well half life...
each one of them incorrectly thinks each other game is getting all of the attention
all of these games get amazing post release content regularly at a pace that is remarkable just 3 years ago, and theyre still the best in the business at it
compare it to anything around it at all and its insane that everything else is such a joke
we surround ourselves in these bunkers of incredibly hardcore people and echo chambers of negativity and of course now we think EVERYBODY hates x or y when its like the couple hundred people that browse whatever website and mostly because they think everyone else cares when most of the hundreds of thousands of players that play the game dont even know its an issue (because its really probably not)
so to sum up i think everyone in those communities are rotten babies who lack perspective, criticism is fine (and encouraged!) but is rarely actually made and instead of well meaning, intelligent, and specific analysis of problems you get general bitching and complaining that do nothing except make the whole conversation obnoxious and terrible for everyone around
also just play on vanilla servers in tf2 there are a bajillion of those
Half Life fans are the 'original' Valve fans, so they are the most ignored and the fans of their newer games aren't as important, since all of those games aren't 'Original'.
Is the argument in various forms, i see alot of Valve threads.
Gave Newell appears at GDC and smiles to the crowd.
Starts his speech with ...
"In addition to Source Engine 2 we have a game currently running to show you on it....it is Half....."
Crowd leans in anticipation. Laptops open and journalist foaming at the mouth ..
"Way done to completion . We will show you it at another time".
Starts his speech with ...
"In addition to Source Engine 2 we have a game currently running to show you on it....it is Half....."
Crowd leans in anticipation. Laptops open and journalist foaming at the mouth ..
"Way done to completion . We will show you it at another time".
I know the argument may seem silly, but as a longtime Half-Life fan it really sucks seeing so much attention go to literally everything but HL... Especially when the entire point of the HL2 "episodes" was to have less time between releases. It wouldn't be so bad if not for the major cliffhanger ending of EP2.
Imp the Dimp
Member
dude wat? Dota 2 is the best game I've ever played by a country fucking mile.
SneakyStephan
Banned
Thread about source engine
derailed into the usual 'valve maeks no gaems'
which is then instantly disproven
which is then followed by the usual goal post moving and 'but but I don't like their new games'
every
single
time
derailed into the usual 'valve maeks no gaems'
which is then instantly disproven
which is then followed by the usual goal post moving and 'but but I don't like their new games'
every
single
time
Hazelhurst
Member
Counter-Strike : Source 2
Velurian
Member
We need more statics here.
Steam grew 50% in 2014
Simultaneous online user count has been growing by +1 milj for the last 3 years or so.
If only we could see the increase of users who spend at least 50 a year or sth.
Also, cant help but to wonder how many of these accounts are the result of key trading/grifting businesses.
There's a physics demo in there that shows chargers knocking over zombies. At worst, we'll see L4D2 running on the engine if not a L4D3.
FloorEssence
Neo Member
The Dota team has less than 30 people on it. You do realise Valve doesn't make the micro transaction content, right? 99% of it is community made, so you're just digging yourself into a hole here. Play vanilla TF2 servers, there are tones of them. CS:GO is another example where microtransactions are community made, the game has received an enormous amount of balance fixes and content updates since launch, as well as tones of e-sport support giving life back to counter strike and its community so I don't understand how you can complain about what they've been doing with CS:GO.
Dota2 has over 10 million active players, to criticize Valve for putting a small team on it to update it is complete double standards, if they just dropped that team and put them all onto HL3 then there will be over 10 million fans bitching and feeling left out.
SteveWinwood
Member
heres almost all of them http://store.steampowered.com/stats/
to answer that second point yeah that has some effect, there are a lot of bots out there
i dont know how big of an effect it has, but i wouldnt think incredibly large, certainly not a majority of the new users by any means
Man without engine demonstration it's like they did nothing
That's later
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
No. that might come tomorrow (or later today, depending on when you are).
I guess but that is a bit different approach for Valve. They usually release beta or something when they announce new thing.
Well there will be something on this page. I think it will be something more than just a copy of their press release too.
Jzero
Member
Wait, how many days are they going to be announcing stuff?
I think they will push Link, Steam Machines, SteamVR on that page. Source 2 should get separate page when they decide to tell more about it.
GDC is through this week. For example there is some kind of embargo regarding the VR headset that will be up later today.
SteveWinwood
Member
hl3 (not trolling, there is a team working on it, and has been for a while), l4d3, porting dota 2
outside of that who knows
they might port tf2 or ccsgo or even the half lifes as an exercise
and then whatever else if they have new stuff
I have a Mac mini that I can use for steam home streaming, but a dedicated little box for $50 might be preferable and simpler to use - just flip the input on the TV, no need to run an app on the Mac etc.
Curious how locked down it is. Will we still be able to stream the PC desktop like you can now? And can you still use a controller hooked up to the original machine (my wireless 360 controller signal reaches my PC from my living room so I'd like to keep that)
Also super curious about the lighthouses. They talk about them being cheap to make, and easy to incorporate into TVs and even mobile devices. So they can't be too bulky? Yet two of them can track a VR headset and any number of controllers at high precision, at room scale? Sounds amazing but because of the cost/size it must be something simole that nobody has thought of using before.
Curious how locked down it is. Will we still be able to stream the PC desktop like you can now? And can you still use a controller hooked up to the original machine (my wireless 360 controller signal reaches my PC from my living room so I'd like to keep that)
Also super curious about the lighthouses. They talk about them being cheap to make, and easy to incorporate into TVs and even mobile devices. So they can't be too bulky? Yet two of them can track a VR headset and any number of controllers at high precision, at room scale? Sounds amazing but because of the cost/size it must be something simole that nobody has thought of using before.
justsomeguy
Member
Instead of steam link, aren't the$80 pc on a stick much better value? Or are they not powerful enough to stream well?
Heavy's Sandvich
Member
I wonder how bad the hit detection/hit box will be in the new engine.
there is also a l4d2 source 2 but ony be an internal project for testing.
cripterion
Member
So they announce Source 2 and that's all fine and dandy but was there a showcase of the games using said engine?
Heavy's Sandvich
Member
E3
Everything is still on going. They'll announce stuff over GDC via the universe page. Source 2 is looking to start by transitioning the active games to it for easier content creation. Doubt the graphics will be getting overhauled there. They'll showcase the full engine either at GDC to devs, on the universe page or some other time this year. Nothing is available yet
And yeah, its thoroughly predictable and by the exact same people every time
You missed one: Why does your last paragraph have exactly three lines? Three....omg!!!! etc etc