Solomeena
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Uh, you do know that the Vive was all Valve right?
Valve teases the Valve Index VR headset for May reveal
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Uh, you do know that the Vive was all Valve right?
AlexxKidd
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Actually i didnt know that i dont own one, I assumed it was HTC. Well then congratulations to Valve on the new headset that actually bears their name.
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hariseldon
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I'm a big VR fan boy. I'm a single racer so that's somewhat expected. I'm not particularly susceptible to be sickness but there are done issues not solvable by software currently. For instance, going forward in my race car I'm fine. Reverse and it starts getting a bit chundery. More sensitive stomachs might go full chunder.
Ovek
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Didn't Valve just fire more than half of the VR hardware team? Couple that with Valves spotty history with hardware releases if that ain't setting off alarm bells already I don't know what would.
I will keep an open mind though, the move away from stupid fucking base stations all over the show is a very welcome development. Needs to be relatively cheap(ish) though as I imagine it will compete with the Rift S and that seems quite reasonably priced.
I will keep an open mind though, the move away from stupid fucking base stations all over the show is a very welcome development. Needs to be relatively cheap(ish) though as I imagine it will compete with the Rift S and that seems quite reasonably priced.
Angry_Megalodon
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This is very good news. Valve is one of the greats in the industry and VR needs whatever push they can give.
Kadayi
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Try contextualising words rather than jumping on them and think they are applied to the same thing. One use relates to hardware tech versus affordability, the other relates to trading off a dead franchise versus creating something new that can fully leverage the power and potency of VR as your Flagship title and will appeal to old and new players alike.
What the fuck relevance does that have to what I said?
LOL, so now you think Valve is going to remake all of Half-life franchise in VR now? Yeah, I remember when they remade the original game in the Source Engine, oh no right, they just imported the original assets and did fuck and all with it. They've had umpteen years to remaster it fully, and they've never yet bothered. I'm not seeing VR being the pivot point, least of all when they still haven't concluded the Episodic Trilogy, I get it, you think the sun shines out of Gabe's ass, but the truth of the matter is, without the financial success of Steam to sustain them, Valve as a developer would have probably gone belly up years ago. Also if you think System Shock 3 is going to do gangbusters in terms of sales, I think you'll be in for a rude awakening. It's not going to be a failure, but it's not going to do crazy numbers.
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FatboyTim
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*Clicks article*
CTRL+F "half-life"
*Nothing*
Yeah, I'll believe it when I see it...
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GlassAwful
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Oh wow new hardware from Valve! Add it to the pile of half assed, failed shit.
Wait, a new game from Valve!? Oh wait... A new game from.. new Valve...
Wait its VR!!!!! .... Who gives a shit?... Talk to me when they solve locomotion twenty years from now.
Bet you VR enthusiasts can't wait to drop tons of money on a product guaranteed to get Valve's world class support for a shitty new game built around siphoning money from your wallet.
Wait, a new game from Valve!? Oh wait... A new game from.. new Valve...
Wait its VR!!!!! .... Who gives a shit?... Talk to me when they solve locomotion twenty years from now.
Bet you VR enthusiasts can't wait to drop tons of money on a product guaranteed to get Valve's world class support for a shitty new game built around siphoning money from your wallet.
DarthBuzzer
Member
That's what I meant though. That the cause of motion sickness lies in software. If you aren't artificially moving and the other two conditions I mentioned are correct, then you won't be sick.
DarthBuzzer
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You're weird. Very contradictory and very confused. I never said anything about Valve remaking the franchise.
Shifty
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Now point to the part of the article that implies Half-Life is going to happen.
Because this looks like hype / fanism fueled speculation from where I'm standing.
DarthBuzzer
Member
Valve fired 13 people from 6 different departments for people reasons. It was unrelated to VR and wasn't related to a change in direction.
DarthBuzzer
Member
Lighten up dude. Your negativity is going to give you wrinkles.
Kadayi
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Fuck right off with that BS . Nothing I've said is contradictory at all. You're just too stupid to understand it, it seems. Whilst you scratch your ass trying to figure that out, maybe buy yourself a clue and learn how to use the forums multi-quote function rather than double posting all the time. Also maybe get a forum Avatar. Suggestion below: -
TheShadowLord
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I would prefer they make a headset with similar specs to oculus. Don't want to shell out like $700 for one unless it has it own dedicated gpu or something.
DarthBuzzer
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Love you too.Fuck right off with that BS . Nothing I've said is contradictory at all. You're just too stupid to understand it, it seems. Whilst you scratch your ass trying to figure that out, maybe buy yourself a clue and learn how to use the forums multi-quote function rather than double posting all the time. Also maybe get a forum Avatar. Suggestion below: -
Kadayi
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Shifty
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There's no primary source here. It's some journalist claiming 'it may come with a half-life VR game' without backing said claim up with any facts.
And this is some random person's Source 2 notes, not anything official. It's a collation of engine functionality and information gathered from various leaks since 2017.
And more to the point, neither of these are related to the link you based this thread on other than being VR-adjacent.
Your topic title is misinformation.
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DarthBuzzer
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You can look for yourself by datamining Source 2 in 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019. HLVR references are everywhere. I know this is happening. You can choose to believe me or not, but it will be clear before May is over.
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Dr.brain64
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Anything half life... please
Yup. Epic is done.
Romulus
Member
A lot of strange, quick triggered aggressive behavior going on.
Anyway, I'm really excited for this. I know the hardware itself will be interesting, but what comes with it really makes the imagination run wild. Even if its not Half-Life. They're working three "big" games for VR, and I really doubt they'll come out with some mediocre shovelware shit to make their splash into the VR world. Exciting!
Anyway, I'm really excited for this. I know the hardware itself will be interesting, but what comes with it really makes the imagination run wild. Even if its not Half-Life. They're working three "big" games for VR, and I really doubt they'll come out with some mediocre shovelware shit to make their splash into the VR world. Exciting!
Shifty
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Whether HLVR is a thing or not is a separate topic for a separate thread. I don't necessarily disbelieve that Valve has worked on it in some capacity based on the leaks, but it has nothing to do with the article in the OP.
The rumor is that Half LifeVR is not HL3 but a prequel. This is from the same leak that has basically been proven correct with the rest of this announcement.
So this is super interesting, especially contrasted against Oculus' super conservative play with the Rift S. Some thoughts:
1) This thing is going to expensive. Maybe not Vive Pro expensive, but very likely Vive launch expensive. I would be shocked if it was less than $600.
2) This thing is going to have very high system requirements. There's no eye tracking, and a significant resolution bump, which means this is going to take a much more powerful system to maintain the same performance and image quality.
3) Speaking of which, pixel density is probably not radically improved. It seems like resolution increases have scaled with FOV increases, which means the pixels per degree are probably not radically different unless there's something major we don't know about, like a hybrid/multi-res screen.
4) Those cameras are definitely for passthrough, not inside out.
5) What the hell is that expansion port on the front for? It's covered by a transparent shield, so almost certainly an optical sensor of some kind, and it looks like it sockets into a USB port... But what could this be that would be so cost prohibitive they'd need to market it as an option? The only thing I could think of is controller-less finger tracking, but that doesn't seem like it would add that much cost, and could even be possible just with the cameras, so I really don't know...
I'm super interested in this, but I'm also pretty deeply invested in the Rift ecosystem, so it would depend somewhat on whether ReVive or the coming OpenXR implementation can bridge those ecosystems.
1) This thing is going to expensive. Maybe not Vive Pro expensive, but very likely Vive launch expensive. I would be shocked if it was less than $600.
2) This thing is going to have very high system requirements. There's no eye tracking, and a significant resolution bump, which means this is going to take a much more powerful system to maintain the same performance and image quality.
3) Speaking of which, pixel density is probably not radically improved. It seems like resolution increases have scaled with FOV increases, which means the pixels per degree are probably not radically different unless there's something major we don't know about, like a hybrid/multi-res screen.
4) Those cameras are definitely for passthrough, not inside out.
5) What the hell is that expansion port on the front for? It's covered by a transparent shield, so almost certainly an optical sensor of some kind, and it looks like it sockets into a USB port... But what could this be that would be so cost prohibitive they'd need to market it as an option? The only thing I could think of is controller-less finger tracking, but that doesn't seem like it would add that much cost, and could even be possible just with the cameras, so I really don't know...
I'm super interested in this, but I'm also pretty deeply invested in the Rift ecosystem, so it would depend somewhat on whether ReVive or the coming OpenXR implementation can bridge those ecosystems.
pimentel1
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Epic store is done. Epic, they still got fucking Fortnite. I don't care for Fortnite, but it's a behemoth. No denying that. I would rather see more Unreal Tournament.
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