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Vampire the Mafia |OT| A Game of Masquerade
- Thread starter El Topo
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I was calling him my rival in the Season 7 thread because of Archer game. Werewolf's always more fun with heated rivalries!
Hmm. Still a bizarre statement. Not to mention you died on day 2 of Archer, your rivalry is like at Chun-Li - MBison level.
Of course none of any of that really has anything to do with the game at hand.
Hmm.. I want to be clear here that gorlak should not be forgotten and his display above is a little flaily but I think we can push dealing with that for 1 day.
Sadly I doubt if he's town scum is going to do us the favor of killing him in the night.
MickD could be a good target but I kind of prefer Mazre for that inactive scum angle.
AbsolutBro feels kind of tied to Blarg to me
but out of everyone
Vote: Trigger
Sadly I doubt if he's town scum is going to do us the favor of killing him in the night.
MickD could be a good target but I kind of prefer Mazre for that inactive scum angle.
AbsolutBro feels kind of tied to Blarg to me
but out of everyone
Vote: Trigger
Honestly? Forgot all about that post.
That said, Satanic Saint is hinting at a role; it's a bad move, but he may have worth.
Goku lost against Vegeta's crew for Round 1, too.
I'm willing to wait you out for just a bit longer. I still don't like your move, but we'll get to you later. I do agree with your post about about Satanic Saint, though, but my conclusions are different. He softclaims in his opening post, and now wants a no lynch. He's been quiet, and has not addressed his "roleclaim" since he made it, even after you and Fat had a discussion about it last page. Red flags.
I'd like some answers.
VOTE: Satanic Saint
Trigger has only committed to voting Gorlak and he's set up the idea of lynching people who are leading lynches. I'm not going to let it go there but I wouldn't be surprised if a town gorlak lynch would have trigger pointing a finger at me.
YesNOnoNOYes
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CURRENT VOTE TALLY:
Gorlak (2)
Gorlak .122 .138
Trigger .156
squidyj .274 .318
MickD .355
Christina Mackenzie (2)
Timeaisis .144 .249
Dusk Soldier .147
Blargonaut .194
Gorlak .225 .228
Hobohodo (2)
Ynnek7 .191
Gorlak .328
AbsolutBro (1)
batsnacks .244 .250
batsnacks .250
Blargonaut (1)
squidyj .74 .274
Swamped .216
Dusk Soldier (1)
Christina Mackenzie .344
Satanic Saint (1)
Timeaisis .359
No Lynch (1)
Dr. Worm .334
Dr. Worm (1)
Zubz .349
squidyj (1)
infinit777 .140
Trigger (1)
squidyj .356
Swamped (0)
Gorlak .205 .225
batsnacks (0)
Gorlak .138 .205
StMeph (0)
Gorlak .275 .328
Ynnek7 (0)
Swamped .142 .214
Mazre (0)
squidyj .318 .356
MickD (0)
Swamped .214 .216
Fat4all (0)
Gorlak .228 .275
Timeaisis .249 .359
No active vote for Day 1:
AbsolutBro
Fat4all
Hobohodo
Mazre
Satanic Saint
StMeph
Day 1 ends:
Automated vote tally here
11 votes for majority
Gorlak (2)
Trigger .156
MickD .355
Christina Mackenzie (2)
Dusk Soldier .147
Blargonaut .194
Hobohodo (2)
Ynnek7 .191
Gorlak .328
AbsolutBro (1)
batsnacks .250
Blargonaut (1)
Swamped .216
Dusk Soldier (1)
Christina Mackenzie .344
Satanic Saint (1)
Timeaisis .359
No Lynch (1)
Dr. Worm .334
Dr. Worm (1)
Zubz .349
squidyj (1)
infinit777 .140
Trigger (1)
squidyj .356
Swamped (0)
batsnacks (0)
StMeph (0)
Ynnek7 (0)
Mazre (0)
MickD (0)
Fat4all (0)
No active vote for Day 1:
AbsolutBro
Fat4all
Hobohodo
Mazre
Satanic Saint
StMeph
Day 1 ends:
Automated vote tally here
11 votes for majority
Close to 24 hours left, and I'm thinking about who to vote for.
I both Gorlak and Christina seem town leaning to me, the batsnacks/AB fight doesn't really seem very substantive, can't really nail down who I trust less/more. Maybe it's a schrade.
Timeaisis seems town, I'm neutral on squidyj and Satanic Saint, but I'd still consider arguments against/for them in general.
Trigger, Dusk and Swamped I'm considering. People like MickD and Ynnek7 and Hobo and other low count/low quality posters, I really don't like how they are playing but i dunno how valuable getting rid of a day-one coaster would be.
I guess im a bit all over the place, I could see myself potentially voting for a lot of different players at this point.
I both Gorlak and Christina seem town leaning to me, the batsnacks/AB fight doesn't really seem very substantive, can't really nail down who I trust less/more. Maybe it's a schrade.
Timeaisis seems town, I'm neutral on squidyj and Satanic Saint, but I'd still consider arguments against/for them in general.
Trigger, Dusk and Swamped I'm considering. People like MickD and Ynnek7 and Hobo and other low count/low quality posters, I really don't like how they are playing but i dunno how valuable getting rid of a day-one coaster would be.
I guess im a bit all over the place, I could see myself potentially voting for a lot of different players at this point.
I honestly can't say I have one yet. Felt they gained three votes relatively quickly (even if they were claimed as RNG) and I found that pretty unlikely. But what of it, I'd hardly consider three a bandwagon. So yeah no feelings either way on the player:
Never that keen on Day 1 but I am in the lynch someone camp. (I've had to redo that three times so that my phone stopped autocorecting it to 'lunch someone') Going to give the thread a good look at now and get some thoughts down (and hopefully a vote) before I go to bed.
So it's 1AM here as I type this so I apologise in advance.
So I decided to look at the connections between players in a few ways. 1: When a player gives an opinion on someone else or asks for the opinion of someone else to the group at large. 2: An ongoing conversation that was held between players. The result? This monstrosity. (Apologies for the handwriting, now you know how my students feel)
I've just used this to help me see which players are being homed in on and which players are doing the hunting. Blarg has a ton of arrows on him but that's mainly due to squidy asking about voting on him right away. Only other info I feel this really gives is seeing which players can be a bit obsessive (Squidy keeps on at Blarg, early on and later focuses on gorlak quite a bit, as does batsnacks) but I see nothing useful in this. It's probably just play style, these guys have got questions and want answers.
The convos are a bit more interesting to me as (in my eyes) it shows who is having a conversation and who is just throwing thoughts out (guilty as charged). Gorlak is the hub of conversation in my eyes right now as he has a lot of red coming of him. Someone who is involved in this many convos this early on is a keeper to me. I'm not saying he is generating them but if he is town he is keeping info flowing and if he is scum then he has a greater chance of getting himself tangled up.
I don't like that Satanic Stan hasn't offered any explanation to his maybe maybe not roll claim posts form earlier even though a number of us have discussed it, it's a conversation thread that has been left dangling. Don't expect a resolution but would like to hear some sort of explanation from him.
So I decided to look at the connections between players in a few ways. 1: When a player gives an opinion on someone else or asks for the opinion of someone else to the group at large. 2: An ongoing conversation that was held between players. The result? This monstrosity. (Apologies for the handwriting, now you know how my students feel)
I've just used this to help me see which players are being homed in on and which players are doing the hunting. Blarg has a ton of arrows on him but that's mainly due to squidy asking about voting on him right away. Only other info I feel this really gives is seeing which players can be a bit obsessive (Squidy keeps on at Blarg, early on and later focuses on gorlak quite a bit, as does batsnacks) but I see nothing useful in this. It's probably just play style, these guys have got questions and want answers.
The convos are a bit more interesting to me as (in my eyes) it shows who is having a conversation and who is just throwing thoughts out (guilty as charged). Gorlak is the hub of conversation in my eyes right now as he has a lot of red coming of him. Someone who is involved in this many convos this early on is a keeper to me. I'm not saying he is generating them but if he is town he is keeping info flowing and if he is scum then he has a greater chance of getting himself tangled up.
I don't like that Satanic Stan hasn't offered any explanation to his maybe maybe not roll claim posts form earlier even though a number of us have discussed it, it's a conversation thread that has been left dangling. Don't expect a resolution but would like to hear some sort of explanation from him.
That's a pretty cool way to look at day-one conversations and opinions. I might have to steal that in the future.
Besides Blarg, Gorlak has the most opinions placed on them by others, but that's not surprising because of the mess that happened earlier in the day.
Ynnek7 did a general breakdown around mid-day, but hasn't done anything really since. Saint is an interesting pick, but that weird claim stuff they did makes me wonder what kind of scum would do that. Even as a long-con it's risky I feel.
Besides Blarg, Gorlak has the most opinions placed on them by others, but that's not surprising because of the mess that happened earlier in the day.
Ynnek7 did a general breakdown around mid-day, but hasn't done anything really since. Saint is an interesting pick, but that weird claim stuff they did makes me wonder what kind of scum would do that. Even as a long-con it's risky I feel.
Dusk Soldier
Member
no one is really jumping out to me and it's close to the deadline.
That's really an awesome way to organize what you've noticed so far in the game. I can't imagine what that could end up looking like days from now, lol.
UNVOTE
It's probably alright that you left out the Heather conversation. For now, I'm thinking that's just a false lead due to people thinking Gorlak might have soft-claimed as her. Now, I still think something might be up due to how Gorlak was acting earlier in the game, but I can't tell what it could be yet.
Gonna go through a few people's posts and give me reads on them now
Satanic Saint
Last he's mentioned, he was still for not lynching anyone on Day 1. I've been on the wrong side of this argument before and really don't think I'll ever see it happen. If you feel strongly about it, though, I'd say put a vote down for it. As of right now while typing this, that would put No Lynch at a tie with Gorlak. Maybe that would motivate a few non-voters to place a vote and break that tie (and give us a voting pattern to look at later.)
Also, I kind of wanted to avoid bringing up your claim, but I realized that cat is already out of the bag on that one. There's a ton of options on the table right now for what might happen during the night phase, and I think you'll be a target for something. Whether or not it's a Strong Kill (to get through that bodyguard), a Doctor (to keep you alive in case the bodyguard claim was you trying to protect yourself), or maybe even a real Cop (to see what's up with you). Unless Scum does come after you, I hope you're not a Veteran, lol.
StMeph
Is against the No-Lynch. All that he's posted, though, was this and his suggestion to lynch down (or up) the list. He stated that this would be no better or worse than any other method for day one. I have to disagree on that. If we vote out one person simply due to where they are on the list, we don't get any ones motivations, when questioned on their vote their only defense/reason will be "They were next on the list".
Other than this, there really isn't much to go on from him.
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Gonna make a new post for a couple other reads to make it easier in case anyone needs to quote me.
UNVOTE
It's probably alright that you left out the Heather conversation. For now, I'm thinking that's just a false lead due to people thinking Gorlak might have soft-claimed as her. Now, I still think something might be up due to how Gorlak was acting earlier in the game, but I can't tell what it could be yet.
Gonna go through a few people's posts and give me reads on them now
Satanic Saint
Last he's mentioned, he was still for not lynching anyone on Day 1. I've been on the wrong side of this argument before and really don't think I'll ever see it happen. If you feel strongly about it, though, I'd say put a vote down for it. As of right now while typing this, that would put No Lynch at a tie with Gorlak. Maybe that would motivate a few non-voters to place a vote and break that tie (and give us a voting pattern to look at later.)
Also, I kind of wanted to avoid bringing up your claim, but I realized that cat is already out of the bag on that one. There's a ton of options on the table right now for what might happen during the night phase, and I think you'll be a target for something. Whether or not it's a Strong Kill (to get through that bodyguard), a Doctor (to keep you alive in case the bodyguard claim was you trying to protect yourself), or maybe even a real Cop (to see what's up with you). Unless Scum does come after you, I hope you're not a Veteran, lol.
StMeph
Is against the No-Lynch. All that he's posted, though, was this and his suggestion to lynch down (or up) the list. He stated that this would be no better or worse than any other method for day one. I have to disagree on that. If we vote out one person simply due to where they are on the list, we don't get any ones motivations, when questioned on their vote their only defense/reason will be "They were next on the list".
Other than this, there really isn't much to go on from him.
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Gonna make a new post for a couple other reads to make it easier in case anyone needs to quote me.
Okay, more reads:
Dr. Worm
He's been busy this week, which I can completely understand, so there's not too much to go on at the moment. They've stated that they find Day One to be awkward and boring. One thing I've picked up on just now, though, is that he likes cool people, and doesn't want to lynch them. He then goes on later to say that Blargonaut seems like a cool guy.
Having only a bare minimum of knowledge of the Vampire universe, are there Ice Monsters characters these could be breadcrumbs for?
MickD
Has really had no presence in the game so far. He placed his vote on Gorlak, which without any stated reason from him makes me think it's because Gorlak called him out in post 330. Might be a good time for a prod vote....
VOTE: MickD
Hobohodo
Like I said earlier, that's a really neat way you've organized the game so far. I know that I shouldn't base a read on something like this, but for right now you're leaning town for me. That probably took a lot of effort to draw out. More effort than I think Scum might take at this point. You're not completely off the hook, though. Some of the best scum hunting I've ever seen in games here has been from scum.
Dr. Worm
He's been busy this week, which I can completely understand, so there's not too much to go on at the moment. They've stated that they find Day One to be awkward and boring. One thing I've picked up on just now, though, is that he likes cool people, and doesn't want to lynch them. He then goes on later to say that Blargonaut seems like a cool guy.
Having only a bare minimum of knowledge of the Vampire universe, are there Ice Monsters characters these could be breadcrumbs for?
JK, it's just really cold in my house right now, so "cool" just really caught my attention.
MickD
Has really had no presence in the game so far. He placed his vote on Gorlak, which without any stated reason from him makes me think it's because Gorlak called him out in post 330. Might be a good time for a prod vote....
VOTE: MickD
Hobohodo
Like I said earlier, that's a really neat way you've organized the game so far. I know that I shouldn't base a read on something like this, but for right now you're leaning town for me. That probably took a lot of effort to draw out. More effort than I think Scum might take at this point. You're not completely off the hook, though. Some of the best scum hunting I've ever seen in games here has been from scum.
Welcome back! Some decent reads, lemme bounce off a few of them:
Dr. Worm going for a no lynch makes a bit of sense to me (he's gonna be on a flight/busy, and won't be around to defend his opinion on a lynch vote), but StMeph discussed voting randomly for a few posts then disappeared for over 24 hours. I'm sure they'll be back to vote, but I wonder if they are going to stick with a random vote.
Is there a chance Satanic is scum, and his claim was a tactic? I've been thinking about it for a while, and while it seems super risky, if it worked it could probably get them a far in if they fake it hard enough and get aid from scum buddies.
MickD at this point just kinda is here. I dunno if it's a strategy or if they're busy or whatever, but I wouldn't really consider them town or scum leaning. Maybe the only thing keeping people from massing votes on him is because he was "active" and voted for someone, but if he's town it's a bit of a shame so far. meh.
Dr. Worm going for a no lynch makes a bit of sense to me (he's gonna be on a flight/busy, and won't be around to defend his opinion on a lynch vote), but StMeph discussed voting randomly for a few posts then disappeared for over 24 hours. I'm sure they'll be back to vote, but I wonder if they are going to stick with a random vote.
Is there a chance Satanic is scum, and his claim was a tactic? I've been thinking about it for a while, and while it seems super risky, if it worked it could probably get them a far in if they fake it hard enough and get aid from scum buddies.
MickD at this point just kinda is here. I dunno if it's a strategy or if they're busy or whatever, but I wouldn't really consider them town or scum leaning. Maybe the only thing keeping people from massing votes on him is because he was "active" and voted for someone, but if he's town it's a bit of a shame so far. meh.
Took a break from posting so I could make some late night nachos. Let's see how much more I can get out here before drowziness takes over or I get a tummy ache.
There's always a chance that this could be the case, but you're right that it's super risky. If he continues with the claim of Cop for multiple days and is actually scum, then eventually town is going to become suspicious as to why scum haven't night killed him yet. He's given himself an out with the bodyguard claim, but that would only work for so long. It's possible it was a really bold claim to try to occupy our Doctor if we have one, though. Honestly, there's way too many possibilities with Satanic Saint. Until we have more information to play with it seems a bit too distracting to continue thinking about for me.
Now, back to a few more summaries:
Mazre
Love the Chun-li/Bison comparison for the Zubs/squidyj rivalry, lol. He gave a few decent reads/critisisms towards Batsnacks, Gorlak, and squidyj. Other than that, not too much more to go off of. I also like his reasoning for town making use of our day one lynch. Why would we throw out one of our few possibly ways to win the game?
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Just saw that you're heading out soon, so I'll post this now just in case you get to see my response before you go.
There's always a chance that this could be the case, but you're right that it's super risky. If he continues with the claim of Cop for multiple days and is actually scum, then eventually town is going to become suspicious as to why scum haven't night killed him yet. He's given himself an out with the bodyguard claim, but that would only work for so long. It's possible it was a really bold claim to try to occupy our Doctor if we have one, though. Honestly, there's way too many possibilities with Satanic Saint. Until we have more information to play with it seems a bit too distracting to continue thinking about for me.
Now, back to a few more summaries:
Mazre
Love the Chun-li/Bison comparison for the Zubs/squidyj rivalry, lol. He gave a few decent reads/critisisms towards Batsnacks, Gorlak, and squidyj. Other than that, not too much more to go off of. I also like his reasoning for town making use of our day one lynch. Why would we throw out one of our few possibly ways to win the game?
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Just saw that you're heading out soon, so I'll post this now just in case you get to see my response before you go.
Very much appreciated.
Dusk Soldier
Another player who hasn't really said too much today. Before leaving for the day, ChristinaMackenzie mentioned that Dusk was being a lot more quiet than usual, and I'd definitely agree with this. Two out of the last three games I've been in have been with Dusk, and he was usually a bit more active than this. Other than placing an RNG vote on CM, all that they've contributed is saying that no one really stands out to them. I'd consider moving my prod vote to them, but I think it's better suited to keep on MickD for now.
Trigger
He's been really good at being here to answer questions from the new players (what claiming town means vs role claims, what scum means, suggesting our pm's are a good place to find info). He's also been able to give us a decent look into possibly scum strategies in posts 263 and 305. He's been pretty silent since yesterday, but I don't think that's anything to worry about yet.
Another player who hasn't really said too much today. Before leaving for the day, ChristinaMackenzie mentioned that Dusk was being a lot more quiet than usual, and I'd definitely agree with this. Two out of the last three games I've been in have been with Dusk, and he was usually a bit more active than this. Other than placing an RNG vote on CM, all that they've contributed is saying that no one really stands out to them. I'd consider moving my prod vote to them, but I think it's better suited to keep on MickD for now.
Trigger
He's been really good at being here to answer questions from the new players (what claiming town means vs role claims, what scum means, suggesting our pm's are a good place to find info). He's also been able to give us a decent look into possibly scum strategies in posts 263 and 305. He's been pretty silent since yesterday, but I don't think that's anything to worry about yet.
AbsolutBro
Was the first to respond to Satanic Saint's role claim, as well as the first to bring up the possibility of these claims just being fluff. Then later on, had a bit of a back and forth with Batsnacks about whether leaning town or noting the abscence of a scumtell is the same as a town read. They've also been quiet for the past day.
Swamped
Started out the day with a vote on me for not maf'ing hard enough. How dare!? She then offered a bit of speculation as to why Gorlak was so quick to selfvote. We'll have to see if he changes his vote back to himself before day end. Had a prod vote on MickD before changing her vote to Blarg and slightly leaning town on MickD due to his silence. Gotta agree with Gorlak, though, if a mafia team member is silent, there's really not too much their team can do to change things. Again, we'll have to see if having a vote on him brings him back before day end.
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And unfortunately, I think that's where my thoughts are going to have to end for tonight. I'll be keeping up on the thread tomorrow, and should have a chance to post a bit between errands. For now, I'm happy with where my vote is, so I'll probably be keeping it there.
And a reminder, there are still people who haven't placed a vote down. Even if it's for a No Lynch, you should have a vote. Don't be afraid of accidentally lynching town. If you think someone is scum, vote for them. If they ended up town, then we can look at what lead to that suspicion and work from there.
And another reminder, lol. I've seen some confusion on this in the past (from myself, as well), but you do not actually have to survive until the end of the game to win. If you're town, but get lynched or night killed, you still win if town wins. If you ever feel that town is turning against you, don't disappear and give up. Fight on, and give us your reads.
Was the first to respond to Satanic Saint's role claim, as well as the first to bring up the possibility of these claims just being fluff. Then later on, had a bit of a back and forth with Batsnacks about whether leaning town or noting the abscence of a scumtell is the same as a town read. They've also been quiet for the past day.
Swamped
Started out the day with a vote on me for not maf'ing hard enough. How dare!? She then offered a bit of speculation as to why Gorlak was so quick to selfvote. We'll have to see if he changes his vote back to himself before day end. Had a prod vote on MickD before changing her vote to Blarg and slightly leaning town on MickD due to his silence. Gotta agree with Gorlak, though, if a mafia team member is silent, there's really not too much their team can do to change things. Again, we'll have to see if having a vote on him brings him back before day end.
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And unfortunately, I think that's where my thoughts are going to have to end for tonight. I'll be keeping up on the thread tomorrow, and should have a chance to post a bit between errands. For now, I'm happy with where my vote is, so I'll probably be keeping it there.
And a reminder, there are still people who haven't placed a vote down. Even if it's for a No Lynch, you should have a vote. Don't be afraid of accidentally lynching town. If you think someone is scum, vote for them. If they ended up town, then we can look at what lead to that suspicion and work from there.
And another reminder, lol. I've seen some confusion on this in the past (from myself, as well), but you do not actually have to survive until the end of the game to win. If you're town, but get lynched or night killed, you still win if town wins. If you ever feel that town is turning against you, don't disappear and give up. Fight on, and give us your reads.
VOTE: Trigger
You've clearly been around quite regularly but haven't taken the oppportunity to say much of anything. When you haven't been answering meta-questions you've only mentioned 3 or so other players, one of them being a vote against Gorlak with practically no reasoning at all. You seem very much like you're trying to participate without making any waves.
You've clearly been around quite regularly but haven't taken the oppportunity to say much of anything. When you haven't been answering meta-questions you've only mentioned 3 or so other players, one of them being a vote against Gorlak with practically no reasoning at all. You seem very much like you're trying to participate without making any waves.
Dusk Soldier
Member
Feel like this is the first game in long while I've played, with no D1 gambits.
Even Blarg is being suspiciously quiet. Although I guess it doesn't matter, I stopped reading his posts around chapter 4.
vote:Timeaisis
Even Blarg is being suspiciously quiet. Although I guess it doesn't matter, I stopped reading his posts around chapter 4.
vote:Timeaisis
Dusk Soldier
Member
Wait. actually I guess there was Satanic's cop claim, followed up by his bodyguard claim.
Since he was urging us to not vote. If he's scum, he was likely trying to protect one or more of:
Christina Mackenzie, Ynnek7, squidyj, batsnacks, or Blargonaut
Hasn't contributed much since then, but also didn't catch any heat for his actions
I don't like this day phase. A lot of people are barely talking and this only helps scum in surviving. We need interactions which we can look at in retrospective. We have 8 hours to go, give it your best shot!
I was considering low active candidates yesterday. At that time out of the players with the fewest posts those three did not have an active vote nor did they contribute anything meaningful. That's why I was okay with voting them.
Every name you mentioned above with the exception of yourself posted more or created discussion (satanic).
Why I didn't include you? Meta, I give you the benefit of the doubt today, we played before, so I know you will start to contribute and it turns out you already posted some more.
things have happened:
hobohodo drew a fantastic mindmap, which I'm always a big fan of (as in of pictures of notes) and the very least I can take from this is that he tries to pay attention.
StMeph is still missing, could also be a scum play (lie low, let the day fade out), especially after he got called out pretty quick for the random lynch idea, typical newbie scum player behaviour, and it looks like it's working.
MickD simply replied with an OMGUS vote which looks really, really bad. He isn't new either, so he should know how to play. The thing that is bothering me with a MickD lynch is that he has no connection to anyone. We did the same in Pokemon Mafia and we had nothing to go on with on Day 2 because of this. Than again I really don't want to drag someone along who wrote shit all during 96 hours and doesn't even care to explain a vote.
I was considering low active candidates yesterday. At that time out of the players with the fewest posts those three did not have an active vote nor did they contribute anything meaningful. That's why I was okay with voting them.
Every name you mentioned above with the exception of yourself posted more or created discussion (satanic).
Why I didn't include you? Meta, I give you the benefit of the doubt today, we played before, so I know you will start to contribute and it turns out you already posted some more.
things have happened:
hobohodo drew a fantastic mindmap, which I'm always a big fan of (as in of pictures of notes) and the very least I can take from this is that he tries to pay attention.
StMeph is still missing, could also be a scum play (lie low, let the day fade out), especially after he got called out pretty quick for the random lynch idea, typical newbie scum player behaviour, and it looks like it's working.
MickD simply replied with an OMGUS vote which looks really, really bad. He isn't new either, so he should know how to play. The thing that is bothering me with a MickD lynch is that he has no connection to anyone. We did the same in Pokemon Mafia and we had nothing to go on with on Day 2 because of this. Than again I really don't want to drag someone along who wrote shit all during 96 hours and doesn't even care to explain a vote.
Up to now I have no particular opinion on Zubz, Timeaisis, infinit777 (he's probably the one I have the most problems remembering anything about), Christina and Trigger. They are among the middle of the line players besides others. Before I can take a look at them I'll look into AB.
Ynnek provided reads, I'm very thankful for the effort, can't see anything alignment indicative though.
I expect more things to come from Dusk Soldier. His output is very thin up to now, like literally nothing. After stating nothing stands out he votes Timeaisis in #383 without any reason. Can you explain this?
Ynnek provided reads, I'm very thankful for the effort, can't see anything alignment indicative though.
I expect more things to come from Dusk Soldier. His output is very thin up to now, like literally nothing. After stating nothing stands out he votes Timeaisis in #383 without any reason. Can you explain this?
Define catching heat? There were plenty of reactions and he has two votes on him.
AbsolutBro
He's obviously a big fan of the game and knows stuff. Stance on Blarg is to wait for how he acts in this game. Gave Satanic the advise to not claim right away. I don't really understand what that means:
Leans town on me and Blarg, nothing malicious behind StMeph
Bats comes in and accuses him of sketchy reads (#242)
I think the problem they have with each other is their completely different approach to this game, either reading everyone per default as scum (bats) or as town (AB).
I agree with batsnacks here by a large margin and think AB is entirely wrong. The way he became ultra defensive is something I don't like either. He also didn't post since then... Yes, I could end up voting AbsolutBro for this.
He's obviously a big fan of the game and knows stuff. Stance on Blarg is to wait for how he acts in this game. Gave Satanic the advise to not claim right away. I don't really understand what that means:
Leans town on me and Blarg, nothing malicious behind StMeph
Bats comes in and accuses him of sketchy reads (#242)
I think the problem they have with each other is their completely different approach to this game, either reading everyone per default as scum (bats) or as town (AB).
I agree with batsnacks here by a large margin and think AB is entirely wrong. The way he became ultra defensive is something I don't like either. He also didn't post since then... Yes, I could end up voting AbsolutBro for this.
Dusk Soldier
Member
Golark you're right. S. Saint does have quite a few votes on him right now.
But at the time of his claim, no one really questioned or called him out on it. And the subject was dropped as soon as Blarg started releasing his preview chapters.
The two votes on him now, don't feel like genuine pressure votes. They look like just safe votes placed to avoid drawing suspicion.
But at the time of his claim, no one really questioned or called him out on it. And the subject was dropped as soon as Blarg started releasing his preview chapters.
The two votes on him now, don't feel like genuine pressure votes. They look like just safe votes placed to avoid drawing suspicion.
AbsolutBro
Member
Sorry for the vanishing act. Work decided yesterday was the best day to explode with new stuff to do, and then one of our animals had to be separated and watched in case she was hurt. Stupid alpacas.
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I fully admit D1 is the weakest part of my mafia game. I know deadline is ~7 hours away, but I will see about getting a reread in and putting up something more substantial.
Sorry, can you clarify what you mean here? Tied to Blarg in what way?
Stealing my Star Wars tactics huh? Funny, I was scum then...
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I fully admit D1 is the weakest part of my mafia game. I know deadline is ~7 hours away, but I will see about getting a reread in and putting up something more substantial.
So it's 1AM here as I type this so I apologise in advance.
So I decided to look at the connections between players in a few ways. 1: When a player gives an opinion on someone else or asks for the opinion of someone else to the group at large. 2: An ongoing conversation that was held between players. The result? This monstrosity. (Apologies for the handwriting, now you know how my students feel)
I've just used this to help me see which players are being homed in on and which players are doing the hunting. Blarg has a ton of arrows on him but that's mainly due to squidy asking about voting on him right away. Only other info I feel this really gives is seeing which players can be a bit obsessive (Squidy keeps on at Blarg, early on and later focuses on gorlak quite a bit, as does batsnacks) but I see nothing useful in this. It's probably just play style, these guys have got questions and want answers.
The convos are a bit more interesting to me as (in my eyes) it shows who is having a conversation and who is just throwing thoughts out (guilty as charged). Gorlak is the hub of conversation in my eyes right now as he has a lot of red coming of him. Someone who is involved in this many convos this early on is a keeper to me. I'm not saying he is generating them but if he is town he is keeping info flowing and if he is scum then he has a greater chance of getting himself tangled up.
I don't like that Satanic Stan hasn't offered any explanation to his maybe maybe not roll claim posts form earlier even though a number of us have discussed it, it's a conversation thread that has been left dangling. Don't expect a resolution but would like to hear some sort of explanation from him.
This is awesome. Nice job dude.
infinit777 voted squidyj for going after blarg, he has the smell of a freshling surrounding him, asking questions, wants to get into the game and he positioned himself clearly against squidyj
He probably won't post anymore. Null read, could be anything, I wished he'd provided a bit more of his opinion towards others, let's see what this will look like tomorrow. I'm not going to vote him.
Christina started of with neutral stuff (those are m.i.a.) and asks some questions that tend to make you rethink. I like those questions, but I don't see anything that makes me lean town or scum. Would keep him around for today.
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Just noticed I still got my vote on hobohodo, as I said I'm changing. And for shenanigans purposes I'll put Trigger in front with 4 votes.
vote: Trigger
Other contenders for me are MickD and Absolut.
And that's why you vote Time at the moment, got it. I agree it's an easy thing to hide behind
He probably won't post anymore. Null read, could be anything, I wished he'd provided a bit more of his opinion towards others, let's see what this will look like tomorrow. I'm not going to vote him.
Christina started of with neutral stuff (those are m.i.a.) and asks some questions that tend to make you rethink. I like those questions, but I don't see anything that makes me lean town or scum. Would keep him around for today.
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Just noticed I still got my vote on hobohodo, as I said I'm changing. And for shenanigans purposes I'll put Trigger in front with 4 votes.
vote: Trigger
Other contenders for me are MickD and Absolut.
And that's why you vote Time at the moment, got it. I agree it's an easy thing to hide behind
Hm, even with the vote on Satanic Time's posts give me nothing.
The only thing I noted was that he was brought into the discussion surrounding me on purpose by squidyj, there was no interaction between the two beforehand, that's noteworthy.
Zubz is another nothingness in the vast of the players, doesn't put out his opinion a lot. Don't like it.
Swamped - I was somehow expecting more of her, quite inactive and reactive. Gut read is still scum, but there is something else bothering me, if I end up dead look back at her posts from D1.
Trigger: Pro lynch, not blarg(?)
Votes me because he's wondering what'll happen
Afterwards expresses nothing interesting is going on
This is a prime example of redirecting suspicion, I don't like that post at all.
The only thing I noted was that he was brought into the discussion surrounding me on purpose by squidyj, there was no interaction between the two beforehand, that's noteworthy.
Zubz is another nothingness in the vast of the players, doesn't put out his opinion a lot. Don't like it.
Swamped - I was somehow expecting more of her, quite inactive and reactive. Gut read is still scum, but there is something else bothering me, if I end up dead look back at her posts from D1.
Trigger: Pro lynch, not blarg(?)
Votes me because he's wondering what'll happen
Afterwards expresses nothing interesting is going on
This is a prime example of redirecting suspicion, I don't like that post at all.
So at the moment I could see consolidating my vote on StMeph or Trigger if necessary though AB is still my number 1 pick.
I actually didn't notice Trigger until this post
I went back and reread and ynnek is right, most of trigger's posts are advice and mechanics related stuff -- the easiest stuff to post as mafia. So trigger kept up with the thread this phase and participated but was non committal.
His vote earlier on gorlak was because gorlak "didn't seem worried about being lynched." I think that's a pretty common scum outlook on the game, "this guy is posting freely, even poorly at times, why aren't they worried like me?"
And I think StMeph is just finding ways to not play. Random lynch and lynch down the list are okay (I guess) as conversation starters but he's used these ideas for the entire phase to avoid playing and committing to reads.
I actually didn't notice Trigger until this post
I went back and reread and ynnek is right, most of trigger's posts are advice and mechanics related stuff -- the easiest stuff to post as mafia. So trigger kept up with the thread this phase and participated but was non committal.
His vote earlier on gorlak was because gorlak "didn't seem worried about being lynched." I think that's a pretty common scum outlook on the game, "this guy is posting freely, even poorly at times, why aren't they worried like me?"
And I think StMeph is just finding ways to not play. Random lynch and lynch down the list are okay (I guess) as conversation starters but he's used these ideas for the entire phase to avoid playing and committing to reads.
All this effort and nobody is around 
Guess Day Ones can be more interesting.
I will give the new players a pass for today, don't won't to pull off a Sorian and shoo away our newcomers.
Votes:
trigger (4)
squidyj 356
fat4all 373
mazre 382
gorlak 391
gorlak (2)
trigger 156
mickd 355
There is a bunch with one vote: blargonaut (1), squidyj (1), mickd (1), absolutbro (1), no lynch (1), dusk soldier (1), dr. worm (1), satanic saint (1), satanicsaint (1), timeaisis (1)
Guess Day Ones can be more interesting. I will give the new players a pass for today, don't won't to pull off a Sorian and shoo away our newcomers.
Votes:
trigger (4)
squidyj 356
fat4all 373
mazre 382
gorlak 391
gorlak (2)
trigger 156
mickd 355
There is a bunch with one vote: blargonaut (1), squidyj (1), mickd (1), absolutbro (1), no lynch (1), dusk soldier (1), dr. worm (1), satanic saint (1), satanicsaint (1), timeaisis (1)
Day 1 votes
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blargonaut (1)
squidyj 74 (274)
swamped 216
gorlak (2)
gorlak 122 (138)
trigger 156
squidyj 274 (318)
mickd 355
batsnacks (0)
gorlak 138 (205)
squidyj (1)
infinit777 140
ynnek7 (0)
swamped 142 (214)
christina mackenzie (0)
timeaisis 144 (249)
dusk soldier 147 (383)
hobohodo (0)
ynnek7 191 (374)
gorlak 328 (391)
swamped (0)
gorlak 205 (225)
mickd (1)
swamped 214 (216)
ynnek7 375
christian mackenzie (0)
gorlak 225 (228)
fat4all (0)
gorlak 228 (275)
timeaisis 249 (359)
absolutebro (0)
batsnacks 244 (250)
absolutbro (1)
batsnacks 250
stmeph (0)
gorlak 275 (328)
mazre (0)
squidyj 318 (356)
no lynch (1)
dr. worm 334
dusk soldier (1)
christina mackenzie 344
dr. worm (1)
zubz 349
trigger (3)
squidyj 356
fat4all 373
mazre 382
gorlak 391 (395)
satanic saint (2)
timeaisis 359
gorlak 395
satanicsaint (1)
hobohodo 368
timeaisis (1)
dusk soldier 383
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blargonaut (1)
swamped 216
gorlak (2)
trigger 156
mickd 355
batsnacks (0)
squidyj (1)
infinit777 140
ynnek7 (0)
christina mackenzie (0)
hobohodo (0)
swamped (0)
mickd (1)
ynnek7 375
christian mackenzie (0)
fat4all (0)
absolutebro (0)
absolutbro (1)
batsnacks 250
stmeph (0)
mazre (0)
no lynch (1)
dr. worm 334
dusk soldier (1)
christina mackenzie 344
dr. worm (1)
zubz 349
trigger (3)
squidyj 356
fat4all 373
mazre 382
satanic saint (2)
timeaisis 359
gorlak 395
satanicsaint (1)
hobohodo 368
timeaisis (1)
dusk soldier 383
Probably MickD for that big fuck you in my face. But as I said that would also leave us with nothing tomorrow?
AbsolutBro promised to write some more, I'm waiting on that. We also got connections to Swamped (town reading him) and more so to Trigger. Also you bringing him up constant and now me agreeing. I guess, it would be better to lynch AB over Trigger.
I'm also indifferent towards Zubz and Timeaisis as the next candidates. But I can see why everyone has problem figuring out what to do. Hardly anything we can work with.