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[TheMan]

Didn't they end up removing all the rpg mechanics?

 

[Poppinfresh]

If reviews are decent/good, I'll pick it up at launch. Otherwise, not interested in the slightest.

 

[Fabieter]

They pulled Chris Avellone off of the project after he got (falsely) accused of being a creep, and then there was the ensuing fallout that eventually led to them switching development over to The Chinese Room.

Seems like the franchise has a pattern of bad dev treatment. It was a shitshow with the first one too, well in a different way but still.

They got replaced after the game was in development hell for an extended period of time. The team removed Avellone's contributions because he got falsely cancelled, then Mitsoda got the boot iirc. It was a total shitshow.

Sucks though!

 

[MondoPentecost]

No, the Chinese room has never made a game I like and very little of what they have shown has what made VtMB great. But I would be extremely awesome to be massively surprised.

 

[Plague Doctor]

Loved the first one. Serious fan.

But when you factor in Modern Day Developers + the development hell this game has been in for years, I have no hope for this. Wouldn't be happier to be surprised with this being on par or close to the first.

When it comes to beloved old IPs, I learned to bury my heroes.

 

[R3TRO]

Looking forward to it.

We need more vampire games.

 

[DKehoe]

More than I expected to be. But, based on the development history, I'm still a bit skeptical and will wait and see what people think of it.

 

[Dazraell]

Nah. I don't want to waste my time on yet another modern sequel to a classic which is a sequel in name only

 

[Revolutionary]

Looked up some more info on the game since I've been completely in the dark and it sounds like it's going to be a total mess





IF I ever get the game, it'll probably be when the complete edition is on sale for a deep discount

 

[SJRB]

I remember a gameplay preview video stating that this played more like Dishonored.

If true, day 1 buy.

 

[Plague Doctor]

>no character creator
>day 1 DLC for clans
>RPG elements non-existant
>no guns at all
>humanity system removed
>masquerade system removed
>hacking/lockpicking removed
>no stat checks in dialogue

Watch the big pub reviews not mention any of this or gloss over it.

 

[DKehoe]

Looked up some more info on the game since I've been completely in the dark and it sounds like it's going to be a total mess





IF I ever get the game, it'll probably be when the complete edition is on sale for a deep discount

The day 1 DLC for clans was recently dropped if I remember right. Lasombra and Toreador are now going to be available as options in the base game.

The lack of RPG elements, humanity system or dialogue stat checks does feel very odd for a Vampire The Masquerade game though.

 

[Denton]

I would not put much stock into random twitter posts. Will it be as deep an RPG as the OG? Probably not. But I am pretty sure most of that list is nonsense.

Anyway, I just fired up the OG to soak up a bit of its atmosphere, it is still so good, man..

I don't get how Paradox spends 9 years trying to get a sequel out without ever making proper remaster of the OG. I mean it still looks great, but at least implementing unofficial patches officially and adding controller support would be nice, dammit.

 

[pudel]

Just installed the first game via Heroic. The "unoffical patch" is already included (gog doing gog things!). Really curious to see what this game is about.

 

[The_hunter]

Just installed the first game via Heroic. The "unoffical patch" is already included (gog doing gog things!). Really curious to see what this game is about.

Enjoy, it's a banger. Don't pick Malkavian on your first run.

 

[Revolutionary]

The day 1 DLC for clans was recently dropped if I remember right. Lasombra and Toreador are now going to be available as options in the base game.

The lack of RPG elements, humanity system or dialogue stat checks does feel very odd for a Vampire The Masquerade game though.

Yeah, it seems as though they reversed the DLC clan decision a week after that tweet

I would not put much stock into random twitter posts. Will it be as deep an RPG as the OG? Probably not. But I am pretty sure most of that list is nonsense.

What makes you so sure? The DLC clan thing was 100% real but they changed it as a result of backlash.

Edit: Of course he doesn't respond. Anyway, I'M pretty sure the 'random twitter post' was just summarizing the round of previews and not making things up.

 

[pudel]

Enjoy, it's a banger. Don't pick Malkavian on your first run.

Aye, I read that already. First common clan, than Malkavian, than Nosferatu....

 

[amigastar]

Just installed the first game via Heroic. The "unoffical patch" is already included (gog doing gog things!). Really curious to see what this game is about.

The Abondoned hotel is all i have to say, wait until you get there.

 

[Nocty]

I remember a gameplay preview video stating that this played more like Dishonored.

If true, day 1 buy.

you must be dreaming if you think these chumps are going to be on the level of the Dishonored devs

 

[Zacfoldor]

I would not put much stock into random twitter posts. Will it be as deep an RPG as the OG? Probably not. But I am pretty sure most of that list is nonsense.

Anyway, I just fired up the OG to soak up a bit of its atmosphere, it is still so good, man..

I don't get how Paradox spends 9 years trying to get a sequel out without ever making proper remaster of the OG. I mean it still looks great, but at least implementing unofficial patches officially and adding controller support would be nice, dammit.

Legend mate.

 

[Neilg]

Holding out for reviews, if the general consensus is that the narrative and writing gets anywhere close to the first, even if it's a little janky, I'm in.

 

[Killer8]

Yes it's a shame that we'll never get the true™ Brian Mitsoda vision for this sequel, but the fact of the matter is that his game couldn't even cross the finish line. If this version ends up being a solid game, albeit a deviation from the original, i'd take that over the more faithful but poorly executed game. Any day of the week.

 

[Kamina]

From all I have seen this is a game to buy on sale

 

[KiteGr]

Word on the street says that it's a VtM:B sequel in name only, and in truth it's a Vampire themed first person action game with little RPGing to speak off.

It will also most likely be Woke as fuck....

 

[Signalis]

VTmB is one of the greatest games ever made, and can never be recreated and no game will ever be like it. So I'm not going to bother with this.

 

[Fbh]

Depending on the reviews I might pick it up on sale.
But I never played the original, and whenever I've heard talk about this sequel it's usually in relation to its troubled development. So I'm not expecting much.

 

[ZehDon]

Waiting for the player's word of mouth on this one. I'm prepared to give it a lot of rope here - the first game was a mess, but it's also legitimately one of the best games of all time. If fans are happy, I'll buy in.

 

[salva]

I somehow never played the first one. I'm in the same boat as a lot of others where the early reveals of this and impressions seemed luke warm. I think I'll just see how things are looking when it releases.... Blood of the Dawnwalker seems a better suited vampire type game for me, but that's not until next year, so this could fill the void.

 

[MagiusNecros]

The day 1 DLC for clans was recently dropped if I remember right. Lasombra and Toreador are now going to be available as options in the base game.

The lack of RPG elements, humanity system or dialogue stat checks does feel very odd for a Vampire The Masquerade game though.

If they removed the day 1 DLC to add different DLC did they really remove the Day 1 DLC?

 

[Minari]

I got burned by a Chinese Room game before but i hope the game is good cause im buying day1.

 

[DKehoe]

If they removed the day 1 DLC to add different DLC did they really remove the Day 1 DLC?

It might well be there's other day 1 DLC yeh. I know people got them to backtrack on the clan ones. But, unfortunately, it figures they would still try and do something.

 

[amigastar]

Jeez i hope the game will be decent but i don't see that happening a quote from PC Gamer.

Vampire: Bloodlines 2 is richly authentic, intriguingly written, dripping with brooding atmosphere, and... not very fun to play, unfortunately.

 

[GymWolf]

Beyond hyped and irrationaly so since development hell rarely traduce in good games.

I loved the first one and even if this look way different, if they give me a dishonored with vampires and some more dialogue\rpg choice i can die happy.

Combat looks a bit clunky but meaty and impactful and the powers looks very cool.

The Please be good chant has never been more real for any other game...

Undecided between bruja and tremere, i usually never pick mage class but the bruja look a bit too basic...

 

[GymWolf]

Looked up some more info on the game since I've been completely in the dark and it sounds like it's going to be a total mess





IF I ever get the game, it'll probably be when the complete edition is on sale for a deep discount

Some things are incorrect or partially incorrect:

There is some character creation stuff but it's only cosmetics, hairs, eyes, accessories i think...

All clans are playable with the hobo version.

You can use guns, you just steal them from enemies and use them via telekinesis

 

[Gonzito]

Beyond hyped and irrationaly so since development hell rarely traduce in good games.

I loved the first one and even if this look way different, if they give me a dishonored with vampires and some more dialogue\rpg choice i can die happy.

Combat looks a bit clunky but meaty and impactful and the powers looks very cool.

The Please be good chant has never been more real for any other game...

Undecided between bruja and tremere, i usually never pick mage class but the bruja look a bit too basic...

You should pick up brujo. It fits your personality better

 

[GymWolf]

You should pick up brujo. It fits your personality better

Are you saying that i'm a hot head?



btw this video explain that there are some rpg\dialogue mechanics still in place

 

[Dr.Morris79]

You'll never know just how much I loved the original. This one though? Is just giving me a CW show vibe with those characters and dialogue

 

[Braag]

Definitely hyped.
I'm creating the OT. I need suggestions for the title.

 

[Toots]

They pulled Chris Avellone off of the project after he got (falsely) accused of being a creep, and then there was the ensuing fallout that eventually led to them switching development over to The Chinese Room.

Even worse, they fired Brian Mitsoda who was narrative lead on the project and head designer on the first one, for mostly the same dubious reasons (if i remember correctly).