Variety: YouTube Cancels PewDiePie Show, Pulls Channel from Premium Ad Program
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Was that seriously their argument? So they still knew that they were saying "Death to all -blank-"? They don't have any excuse.
I'm so glad I was part of the last generation to grow up without the internet.
When we were kids we were able to be idiots without it being documented for eternity.
JK is right.
Tinfoilhatsron
Banned
Like I said I haven't able to watch it, but I was told, perhaps unclearly, and that led me to think that PDP was the one who said the Keemstar joke after the dudes held up the sign. Like a punchline. Also was the shocked part also part of the joke?
Doesn't change my own opinion in the other thread that it was shitty edgy joke, but I'll verify for myself.
how will that kill his channel? I don't know if you are massively overestimating twitter/tumblr or I'm underestimating their reach.
StereoVsn
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When you have a viewership of 50+ million people there are no longer such things as inside jokes. This is mainstream. He posted multiple videos that could easily be taken for being anti-semitic(and perhaps were anti semitic) and whatever the motivation, they were very offensive to a lot of people. Moves by major sponsors made that quite clear.
Making offensive joke repeatedly kind of does though. Let's say he made that "joke" (multiple jokes actually) about another race instead of Jews. How would have that sounded? You bet your ass defense wouldn't be that adamant.
Messofanego
Banned
Holy shit
They probably desperately needed the money if they were willing to do it, I don't think we should blame the Indians in this scenario.
Doug Heffernan
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Nah, he'll probably just move onto Twitch, if he isn't there already.
Manny Calavera
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I think Gibson's comments were overblown and he did apologize them several times. Also Andrew Garfield who's Jewish himself had nothing but good things to say about Gibson and about working with him in Hacksaw Ridge.
So it's okay to be anti semetic if you're paid for it? That's a slippery slope right there.
Orochinagis
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There was a reality show on youtube?
I think it's even more disturbing how Disney/YouTube supported someone who openly used the N word and FA word in his videos.
And this particular incident happened in January.
This only broke the camels back because he got bad press out of it. They wouldn't have cared otherwise.
And this particular incident happened in January.
This only broke the camels back because he got bad press out of it. They wouldn't have cared otherwise.
Professor Lexicovermis
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And to think; young me ate this guy's content up like it was comedy gold. *shudder*
2Smashed4U
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For well over 10 years he absolutely was, yeah. Not until other actors actively had to lobby for Hollywood to give him a second chance for the last few years.
And it's not like this prick is an actual talent like Mel Gibson is as a director.
StereoVsn
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Twitch is owned by Amazon. There is a good chance that he could either be prevented from streaming there if he hasn't started or dropped if he has. Amazon will not want to have anything to do with this sort of thing either any more then Disney or Google.
Seriously? I am sure the defenders will leap at him just being a joker. Let's see he is racist, anti-semitic and perhaps more. Hmm, walks like a duck, talks like a duck, perhaps he is indeed a duck (or a dick).
Spiral Insanity
Banned
Of course this 'prick' has talent. He makes enjoyable video content. It does take 'talent' to be a popular Youtube personality. Wether you like his output or not.
2Smashed4U
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The article I read about this, they were interviewed, they didn't know what it is they even wrote. PDP took advantage of him.
mavericktopgun
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Well deserved. He always thought he was allowed to do anything.
He doesnt need to, he will still get a ton of views per video, google aint removing his ability to monetise the videos.
Magicgamer101
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Some guy on the internet said some racist shit. I'm not going to go out of my way to research the guy to see if he's really a good person or not. I'll label him a racist and move on with my day.
Also you can't just say offensive shit and then call it a joke. Life doesn't work like that.
And yeah I am happy about the backlash he's facing. Every time someone does stupid shit like this, there's always some crazy defence force.
Also you can't just say offensive shit and then call it a joke. Life doesn't work like that.
And yeah I am happy about the backlash he's facing. Every time someone does stupid shit like this, there's always some crazy defence force.
I haven't referred to anyone related to this entire affair as a "nazi," so I don't know what you're talking about. If it makes you feel any better, I personally don't believe that he is one. He is a rich, privileged asshole, though.
2Smashed4U
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What I'm saying is, Mel Gibson is one of the best directors in the business. That has a lot more cultural value and clout than "random asshole who makes stupid YouTube videos."
Mel Gibson was a household name. He would've never received a second chance if not. And even still, it took almost 15 years for him to get it.
And no, PDP is not talented, for fucksake.
In the request he asks them what to write on the sign, but also what to say. The dudes in the video say "Subscribe to Keemstar" at the exact moment they show the sign.
As I already said, they said they didn't know what jews were. That means they still know they said "death to all -blank-". You cannot blame this on ignorance, which still doesn't justify something like this. Yeah, Pewdiepie is mostly to blame in this, but don't go pretending like those two guys are nice and innocent victims.
No no no, PDP didn't it was Keemstar who through proxy forced PDP's hand to do this.
This fucking thread is going to give me aneurysm. I'm out, enjoy your "Death to all jews" humor defenders.
-Mutsukki-
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LiquidSword
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Sure there is the context that he is making fun of another youtuber. But this stuff wasn't in just one video. It's not like he made a distinct parody video of Keemstar. There's also the context of him having people who may or may not need that 5 bucks to eat being tricked into writing anti Semitic phrases to prove "how crazy the world is." Corporations choosing to distance themselves from that is their choice.
MetalGearOnlineK
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I feel like people are underestimating how big PewDiePie is. I'm not trying to defend him, but he has 53 MILLION subscribers, the number isn't going down at all (People are unsubscribing but he's still overall gaining subscribers), and has all kinds of streams of revenue. Sure it may be a loss for him to lose Disney and his Youtube TV show, but his main channel is still going and he's going to continue to make tons of money.
Not trying to defend him, what he did was dumb and shitty, but I don't see where people are getting the idea that this will end his career.
Not trying to defend him, what he did was dumb and shitty, but I don't see where people are getting the idea that this will end his career.
2Smashed4U
Banned
Yeah that dude is a piece of garbage too.
Kaiser Swayze
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Is it really worth trying to defend this guy? What serious concern develops from a corporate partner pulling their support of a youtuber over some ill-conceived and poorly executed humor? Comedy is hard, especially when you venture outside of dick/fart jokes and slapstick, and folks in public view who just shit out some clumsy "lol racist comment" find out real fast that they're way out of their league when approaching sensitive subjects. No pity here.
And that's how Trump won, "if he said so, he's right, I don't need more information"
RandomHopeInc
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Man, I was really looking forward to Scare PewDiePie Season 2
I was going on the assumption of some posters here that they didn't understand what the sign even meant. Paying someone peanuts to make anti-semitic "jokes" for you is pretty exploitative, no?
Oh, i'm fine with Disney and others dropping him, mind you. You don't do shitty edgy jokes while under big multi-million dollar companies and not expect to not get kicked ou for it. I'm just against labeling him as a nazi or white supremacists. He isn't.
SaniOYOYOY
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ah I thought he delete that vid since I couldn't find it on his channel, there you go peeps the video behind this storm judge it as it is.
now that i watched it again, that was some pretty fucked up joke lmao
Ray Wonder
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It's not an inside joke, it's the jokes context. Context is everything. If you dislike, or are offended by the joke after understanding what it's going for, then that's fine.
And companies react to the public's reaction. This is to be expected, I know.
Isn't Ethan and his gf/wife also Jewish? Actually watch him use that as defence for defending the jokes? He likes to be controversial, that's for sure.
2Smashed4U
Banned
Meh, I don't know much about what they do. Are they even fluent in English? I honestly don't think writing "death to all _____" is inherently offensive. Fill in the blank with whatever, I don't know, let's just say "ducks." Would that be offensive? No.
So yeah, I do blame PDP almost entirely for it.
Spiral Insanity
Banned
Of course PDP is talented. Don't take being a Youtube personality for granted. It demands drive, commitment, camera presence, being able to connect with your audience so they watch more than 30 seconds of your video, editing skills, business skills, ....
It has nothing to do with you liking what he does or not. He didn't just get lucky. If it was luck, his bubble would have popped years ago.
the_sun_king
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Boy, that was fast.
Two cents: Joke or not, there had to be consequences as anti-Semitism/Nazism does not deserve to be normalized in any way.
Two cents: Joke or not, there had to be consequences as anti-Semitism/Nazism does not deserve to be normalized in any way.
Ray Wonder
Founder of the Wounded Tagless Children
It's a joke, conveying exactly that, aimed at another youtuber.
Spiral Insanity
Banned
I kind of wish YouTube would cancel the White House.gov account.
LiquidSword
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Could be wrong here but skimming the thread it seems like most people are labeling him an idiot and a dumbass. There seems to be light discussion about "Does he really hold these views?" and that's about it. So I'm not sure where you and others are getting this "Nazi witch hunt" narrative from.
A fucked up joke to a fucked up individual like Keemstar
Big Shirtless Ron
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Well deserved. I don't get the people wanting to throw a pity party for this heap of shit. He brought this on himself. Nobody forced him to make the video. Just like nobody forced him to drop an n bomb earlier this year. So fuck him.
Bronetta
Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
Yeah it is offensive to most people even if you dont think so.
I'll also advise you not to say that death to all *any group of people* even as a joke because most people wont take too kindly to it.
One more thing: unlike ducks, Jews arent animals.
Messofanego
Banned
Agreed with Matt Lees, if you can't own your jokes, you're just an arsehole for free.
https://twitter.com/Jam_sponge/status/831580832477347845
People growing up on unchecked nazism and white nationalism thanks to certain toxic corners of the internet, this just reinforces that.
https://twitter.com/Jam_sponge/status/831580832477347845
People growing up on unchecked nazism and white nationalism thanks to certain toxic corners of the internet, this just reinforces that.
You would fucking check what the final word meant in that context. And if you watched the video, which I did to see what the fuzz was about earlier today, you see that they are writing in English and their knowledge of it is clearly decent. Of course they'd plead ignorance, they didn't expect it to blow up in their face, but they still want more money despite being shitty people.
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