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[Winterfang]

How did Venezuela got into that state?

 

[gutter_trash]

How did Venezuela got into that state?

14 years of Hugo Chavez, then getting replaced by a Bus Driver

 

[Denton]

Ah, the wonders of socialism. So happy my own country got over this economic idiocy.
I hope Venezuela leave this bullshit behind too, rather sooner than later.

 

[Freedom = $1.05]

How did Venezuela got into that state?

well, for one they're AFAIK primarily known for their oil production at a time when oil prices have been dropping like a rock for nearly a year to almost half of what it was going for.

 

[BadHand]

I actually support many of the tenets of successful socialism and wish my country would adopt them. But that's not what you have.

I'm not saying its successful. I'm saying its necessary.

Its no secret that Venezuela is in a mess and needs change. but there are rapidly rising poverty numbers and these people need immediate relief. Long term solutions don't address their short term needs. you have to protect the sparse resources that you have. Whatever change needs to happen, needs to happen while people are being fed and clothed - don't you agree?

bus driver president telling you were to sit on the bus

14 years of Hugo Chavez, then getting replaced by a Bus Driver

Do you have something against just bus drivers or any political figure with a real job prior to entering politics?

 

[mantidor]

This is beyond the flaws or benefits of socialism, this is about people in power who are completely inept to run a country, who only got there because they kissed Chavez's ass, and I'm not talking just about Maduro.

well, for one they're AFAIK primarily known for their oil production at a time when oil prices have been dropping like a rock for nearly a year to almost half of what it was going for.

Products shortages began way before the recent oil price drop.

I really hope Venezuela can recover, but the short term future looks bleak, it's disheartening knowing they had oil in times of peak prices, they should be somethig like the Norway of Latinamerica, but Chavez and his followers were catastrophic.

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

Why don't they sell the food directly to Colombia for massive profits, then use the profits to import more food for their own people?

 

[Stinkles]

I'm not saying its successful. I'm saying its necessary.

Its no secret that Venezuela is in a mess and needs change. but there are rapidly rising poverty numbers and these people need immediate relief. Long term solutions don't address their short term needs. you have to protect the sparse resources that you have. Whatever change needs to happen, needs to happen while people are being fed and clothed - don't you agree?





Do you have something against just bus drivers or any political figure with a real job prior to entering politics?

The short term populist measures are exacerbating the problems. this isn't an opinion, this isn't an outsider perspective, it's math. Not even economics. Just math. It's getting worse and there isn't a viable long term plan. Ultimately the best thing is to start reversing some of the more ludicrous changes (term limits for starters) and turn Venezuela into more of a Nordic model of socialism if that's what you guys genuinely want, because so far, that's been the most successful version. And you guys have natural resources and eventually a viable business and tourist climate beyond that.

But you have to undo all this stupid authoritarian populist bullshit.

 

[VICTORsaurio]

You know things are fucked when Mexico looks appealing

Aguante pueblo hermano de Venezuela.

As I said earlier I've been in México for almost 9 months now and it's just paradise, at least in México city. It's really funny when I talk to people from here and tell them I left Venezuela because of all the problems there and they're always like: "México isn't any better" and I tell them: YOU HAVE NO IDEA.

 

[mantidor]

As I said earlier I've been in México for almost 9 months now and it's just paradise, at least in México city. It's really funny when I talk to people from here and tell them I left Venezuela because of all the problems there and they're always like: "México isn't any better" and I tell them: YOU HAVE NO IDEA.

We latinamericans have issues.

Here in Brazil people against the government usually like to say that things "are going the way of Venezuela", I feel like slapping some sense into them, they have no clue.