Very concerned mom rants against Vince Staples 'Norf Norf".

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See, in this case, context is key. What do you know about Vince Staples? I'm guessing you presume he's a rapper hence he's advocating for the get money fuck bitches lifestyle popular rap seems to glorify. Vince is, in actuality, an ex-Crip who's seen his fair share of friends die due to the lifestyle. The album's name Summertime '06 is in reference to the summer that changed his mind on gang-banging as demonstrated in this post. In addition, the album has songs that are almost pure counterpoints to your claim it celebrates the gang lifestyle, like on the closer "Like It Is."

The whole album is meant to be a retrospective look on what it means to be a gang member with the first half being the bangers exemplifying the lifestyle and the second examining the regrets and downsides of being on. It's a goddamn concept album whose core concept you're throwing away because of one song.

Now look, it as a song is obviously going to be taken out context if it's played as a lone track, but if you're (the royal you i.e. anyone who just looks at this song) going to crucify someone as a rapper pushing the stereotypical money, drugs, and bitches lifestyle, at least do your goddamn research. For the record, I haven't watched the video because I know it would get me super pissed, but at least learn some context before slamming somebody. It'd be like saying Kendrick is a shit artist because of "Hood Politics" or saying Kanye's a shit artist because of "Drunk and Hot Girls."

You're talking to the same people who assume Swimming Pools is about gloryfing an alcoholic lifestyle.

They just can't grasp it breh.
 
It's not glamorizing violence or life in the hood at all. I would agree that Vince Staples music is not appropriate for a 10 or 11 year old though. Kids (and some adults apparently) probably don't have the intelligence to separate a story about hopelessness and glamorization. I don't listen to Danny Brown and assume that he's trying to glamorize drug usage.

EDIT: I do agree that parents should pay attention to what their kids listen to though, so I have no problem with the woman getting upset.

I agree, however I even question if this was on regular radio since Vince isn't THAT mainstream and its not exactly a party song. I assume it came on a satellite radio's hip-hop station which makes my brain even melt even more trying to figure out how this song of all songs tripped her up if she was listening to it the way I thought.
 
Of course I wouldn't want to live in that world. However, nothing in the lyrics suggests that it's a terrible thing or place to be. I guess you could read that into it, but I don't get that from the lyrics at all.

then i suggest listening to the song instead of just reading the lyrics. You might be surprised by how differently you'll understand where he's coming from

And don't even get me started on Bob Marley and his extreme disrespect for the police. I guess we can see where THAT comes from.

This is meant to be incredibly sarcastic and from the view of a super sheltered All Lives Matter type person, please don't take this the wrong way.
To late TRIGGERED!
 
I agree, however I even question if this was on regular radio since Vince isn't THAT mainstream and its not exactly a party song. I assume it came on a satellite radio's hip-hop station which makes my brain even melt even more trying to figure out how this song of all songs tripped her up if she was listening to it the way I thought.

No, she said 104.5 so it should be terrestrial. They probably just have a hip ass local DJ
 
No, she said 104.5 so it should be terrestrial. They probably just have a hip ass local DJ

Ahh, I missed that part. Shit, im just happy there's dj's allowed to deviate from the dj mustard/mike will made it/drake dominated songs (not thats anything wrong with that, I enjoy them, just not all the time)
 
Yea, it's honestly pretty shocking that it played on terrestrial radio. It's not exactly a top hit and most DJ's these days have little to no control over what they actually play. In my area it's either CBS or clear channel/i heart.
 
He couldn't ask for better PR.

I'm so skeptical, this has gotta be gorilla marketing right? Anyhow, never heard Norf Norf before, that song is pretty good. And his new single the OP mentions, he's got like a 10-min arthouse video for it with actors and a plot and shit, there seems like some savvy behind his image, this lady's a viral plant for sure!
 
Of course I wouldn't want to live in that world. However, nothing in the lyrics suggests that it's a terrible thing or place to be. I guess you could read that into it, but I don't get that from the lyrics at all.
Art is funny like that.
 
Omg I was nearly crying from laughter at the remix. Notice she cried at the line "hoes need abortions", guessing she's against abortion and quite conservative :P
 
Thanks for the reminder to listen to Summertime '06 again. Was going to see Vince this summer, but ended up being out of town.

Agreed that he isn't exactly for 10-11 year olds though.
 
I'm not sure I get what the big deal is. I mean, obviously she went overboard with her reaction, but I can see where she's coming from as a parent. I wouldn't want either of my kids to listen to any music with harsh lyrics until they're older.

Am I missing something?
 
I'm not sure I get what the big deal is. I mean, obviously she went overboard with her reaction, but I can see where she's coming from as a parent. I wouldn't want either of my kids to listen to any music with harsh lyrics until they're older.

Am I missing something?
She's ranting and raving in an obviously racist manner when the solution was as simple as turning the knob.
 
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Perfect use of this GIF.
 
See, in this case, context is key. What do you know about Vince Staples? I'm guessing you presume he's a rapper hence he's advocating for the get money fuck bitches lifestyle popular rap seems to glorify. Vince is, in actuality, an ex-Crip who's seen his fair share of friends die due to the lifestyle. The album's name Summertime '06 is in reference to the summer that changed his mind on gang-banging as demonstrated in this post. In addition, the album has songs that are almost pure counterpoints to your claim it celebrates the gang lifestyle, like on the closer "Like It Is."

The whole album is meant to be a retrospective look on what it means to be a gang member with the first half being the bangers exemplifying the lifestyle and the second examining the regrets and downsides of being on. It's a goddamn concept album whose core concept you're throwing away because of one song.

Now look, it as a song is obviously going to be taken out context if it's played as a lone track, but if you're (the royal you i.e. anyone who just looks at this song) going to crucify someone as a rapper pushing the stereotypical money, drugs, and bitches lifestyle, at least do your goddamn research. For the record, I haven't watched the video because I know it would get me super pissed, but at least learn some context before slamming somebody. It'd be like saying Kendrick is a shit artist because of "Hood Politics" or saying Kanye's a shit artist because of "Drunk and Hot Girls."
I may have to check out this album. Thanks for the context.
 
Man, I remember when 2 Live Crew was getting all the complaints when I was in elementary school. Then there was the gangsta rap explosion that happened when I reached junior high.

That whole mess led to the creation of these labels:

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I'm guessing the woman in the video was too young to remember all the freaky-let's-bone R&B jams of the early-to-mid 90s either. There was some in the late 90s, but it was on the way down from the peak earlier in the decade.

Hell, even the more pop groups like Color Me Badd sang about fucking and it was all over the airwaves.
 
Man, I remember when 2 Live Crew was getting all the complaints when I was in elementary school. Then there was the gangsta rap explosion that happened when I reached junior high.

That whole mess led to the creation of these labels:

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I'm guessing the woman in the video was too young to remember all the freaky-let's-bone R&B jams of the early-to-mid 90s either. There was some in the late 90s, but it was on the way down from the peak earlier in the decade.
Remember when the most popular radio song was laterally called "the humpty dance"?
 
So, I'd never heard this song. Yet even from her mangled reading what I took away was that the main character of the song is saying, "I live in a scary place where people get killed and chase money over betterment, and yet the only thing that scares me are the cops." Which is sad and poignant in it's own way.

Obviously not daytime top 40 material (also fuck her they did not play this on a top 40 station during the morning commute, she was on the rap station and knew better) but also clearly not an endorsement to my ears.

Now that I have heard the actual song it's comically clear that my interpretation of the lyrics was accurate enough.
 
Remember when the most popular radio song was laterally called "the humpty dance"?

And they pretty much played that track on the air without any censoring back when it came out!

If I hear it today on some throwback station, there's a chance some of it gets blanked/beeped out. Hell, Javier Lopez uses that track for his entrance theme when he comes out in relief for the SF Giants, and I'm pretty sure they play a cleaner version of that in the ballpark.

Speaking of Digital Underground, they played goddamn Freaks of the Industry over the air all the time back then too!
 
And they pretty much played that track on the air without any censoring back when it came out!

If I hear it today on some throwback station, there's a chance some of it gets blanked/beeped out. Hell, Javier Lopez uses that track for his entrance theme when he comes out in relief for the SF Giants, and I'm pretty sure they play a cleaner version of that in the ballpark.

Speaking of Digital Underground, they played goddamn Freaks of the Industry over the air all the time back then too!
Right? I feel crazy when something from Hov or 2 Pac or 2 live comes on the radio now going "this didn't used to be cut like this".
 
She's ranting and raving in an obviously racist manner when the solution was as simple as turning the knob.

Maybe I missed the obvious racism. What part was that? I mean, she was reading lyrics that contained the N-word, but I didn't her being overly gleeful in doing so. Nor did I notice her railing against the song because it's performed by a black guy.

I'm not saying race isn't a motivating factor, but I don't think there're any "obvious" displays of racism here.

Edit: But yes, turning the knob should have come long before she started bawling about it in the car like she claimed.
 
love vince


Slave to the rhythm, shoot my master in his back
Two dope boys, in the Cadillac strapped
Wood grain dash, windshield stained glass
Beatin' down the ave, like we back sellin' crack
Killin' for the karma, but livin' for my mama
Trouble what the call us, and nothing what they offer
Off 'em, and they wonder why niggas get shot
And they wonder why niggas shot
 
So, I'd never heard this song. Yet even from her mangled reading what I took away was that the main character of the song is saying, "I live in a scary place where people get killed and chase money over betterment, and yet the only thing that scares me are the cops."

Obviously not daytime top 40 material (also fuck her they did not play this on a top 40 station during the morning commute, she was on the rap station and knew better) but also clearly not an endorsement to my ears.

Now that I have heard the actual song it's comically clear that my reading of the lyrics was accurate.

Yes, the song is indeed super inappropriate for someone who has no idea who Vince Staples is or has no context about the song. Royal you incoming. But, that's why you actually take the damn time to read up on what the song means and learn said context. If you took the time to look up the lyrics and analyze them, you have the time to read up on his background and see what the song actually means.
 
All I'll write is that I think it's interesting that she's more upset by hearing these lyrics on the radio rather than being aware that this stuff really happens.
 
I mean we don't even need to go back to the early 90's. A number 1 radio hit like 3 got damn years ago is quite literally just titled "fuck you".
 
man Summertime 06 is such a good album. This lady completely lacks the ability to read into lyrics and it looks like some people in this thread do too.

Vid is hilarious
 
See, in this case, context is key. What do you know about Vince Staples? I'm guessing you presume he's a rapper hence he's advocating for the get money fuck bitches lifestyle popular rap seems to glorify. Vince is, in actuality, an ex-Crip who's seen his fair share of friends die due to the lifestyle. The album's name Summertime '06 is in reference to the summer that changed his mind on gang-banging as demonstrated in this post. In addition, the album has songs that are almost pure counterpoints to your claim it celebrates the gang lifestyle, like on the closer "Like It Is."

The whole album is meant to be a retrospective look on what it means to be a gang member with the first half being the bangers exemplifying the lifestyle and the second examining the regrets and downsides of being on. It's a goddamn concept album whose core concept you're throwing away because of one song.

Now look, it as a song is obviously going to be taken out context if it's played as a lone track, but if you're (the royal you i.e. anyone who just looks at this song) going to crucify someone as a rapper pushing the stereotypical money, drugs, and bitches lifestyle, at least do your goddamn research. For the record, I haven't watched the video because I know it would get me super pissed, but at least learn some context before slamming somebody. It'd be like saying Kendrick is a shit artist because of "Hood Politics" or saying Kanye's a shit artist because of "Drunk and Hot Girls."

Whew. My dude gave a free lecture.
 
Right? I feel crazy when something from Hov or 2 Pac or 2 live comes on the radio now going "this didn't used to be cut like this".

And then there were all those random R&B tracks with women moaning in the background. Like that one track from Jodeci's first major album. Eventually there was a radio edit version without the moaning, but some stations still didn't bother playing that one and stuck with the original.

I mean we don't even need to go back to the early 90's. A number 1 radio hit like 3 got damn years ago is quite literally just titled "fuck you".

Even one of Justin Bieber's recent tracks is essentially a "fuck you" song. But I'm sure anyone not paying attention don't realize that's what the song is about.
 
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