VGLeaks rumor: Durango CPU Overview

You are totally incapable of any logical discernment in the information you read from various sources, I'm surprised you think anybody holds your opinion with any weight at all.

I think most are pointing and laughing at you instead.

Well it's certainly not the first time, I was called out for that BF4 rumor thread wasn't I?
 
It's good to want nice things out of any new console. I see some people moving goalposts too. Suddenly 8GB was feasible and a realistic choice when Crytek said that? Even I said "it was nice to dream" to that statement and wrote it off as hot air.
People thought 8GB was unlikely because of the costs involved. As others have pointed out, they've essentially been able to get 4Gbit GDDR5 to replace the 16 2GBit chips they were planning on using. And they'll either eat the cost or have a higher price. It wasn't technically unfeasible.

That other "leaker" is full of shit. There is no could be.

Unless you actually think Microsoft is populated by idiots who couldn't find a more elegant design than creating a monstrosity with two identical APUs bolted together.
 
Thank you.

Since when do consoles have two motherboards....

Not two motherboard two sockets.

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/Believe.

I will be so disappointed this or next month :'(
 
Not two motherboard two sockets.



/Believe.

I will be so disappointed this or next month :'(

The leaks you have are accurate regarding the Durango v2.2 development kits but what has gone over the heads of many is that MSFT has incorporated a dual mainboard, dual APU system. Essentially MSFT will reveal a system with 2 times what VGL has leaked in one housing.

Actually, he said very obviously two motherboards not sockets.
 
Another piece of wisdom:

If MS doesn't explicitly say: 'these are our specs etc etc', but says something like: 'we've got a very powerful system', you can bet your ass all general rumours are true (ie. 8 jaguar cores @ 1.6/1.2TF GPU), because they don't want the comparison to the PS4.
 
You are totally incapable of any logical discernment in the information you read from various sources, I'm surprised you think anybody holds your opinion with any weight at all.

I think most are pointing and laughing at you instead.

At this point I'm in unequivocal agreement with this conclusion.
 
Everyone now want MS to have two systems in one. Hope MS prepare to change the system again. Is it 4th or 5th change?
Hope devs can keep up with their projects on changing specs.
 
People thought 8GB was unlikely because of the costs involved.

That other "leaker" is full of shit. There is no could be.

Unless you actually think Microsoft is populated by idiots who couldn't find a more elegant design than creating a monstrosity with two identical APUs bolted together.
Wouldn't a dual APU require to also create two distinct pools of DDR3? Otherwise, the not to chabby 68GB/s would have to be shared between both APUs resulting in a 34GB/s bandwidth per APU... Could the DME serve ESRAM correctly with various DMAs also eating that bandwidth in these conditions?

Or am I just wrong and this is not how it works (or how it would work...)?
 
Another piece of wisdom:

If MS doesn't explicitly say: 'these are our specs etc etc', but says something like: 'we've got a very powerful system', you can bet your ass all general rumours are true (ie. 8 jaguar cores @ 1.6/1.2TF GPU), because they don't want the comparison to the PS4.
Yeah, I think this is very likely. If anything is clearly superior to PS4, we'll hear about it.
 
Lol poor MS.

Everyone now want MS to have two systems in one. Hope MS prepare to change the system again. Is it 4th or 5th change?
Hope devs can keep up with their projects on changing specs.

And this is why you are a junior...

Maybe read up a bit on how a new console is rolled out to devs.
 
And this is why you are a junior...

Maybe read up a bit on how a new console is rolled out to devs.

They are progressively rolled out in about 3 or so different stages until they reach the final one which is generally a vision they are working towards.

They do not go and put in another motherboard and APU for kicks.
 
And this is why you are a junior...

Maybe read up a bit on how a new console is rolled out to devs.

And this is why you just bitter person.... even you mod the quote.

Maybe let devs to decide what they want is the best opinion for them. Sony done that, let hope MS doing the same too.
 
Hey, so, I hope Durango is as easy to mod as Sega Saturn! I can't wait to import Keio Yugekitai.
 
And this is why you are a junior...

Maybe read up a bit on how a new console is rolled out to devs.

Are you talking about dev kits? If you are, then all the leaks suggest the Durango is only now in the last few days/weeks getting the second (Beta) dev kit.

Seems quite surprising actually that Durango has made do with just the Alpha dev kit since mid/late 2011.
 
Since when do consoles have two motherboards....

I wonder if this "rumor" suffers from the same misinterpretation that many other rumors have suffered from. Microsoft appears to be hyping aspects of the console that end up being rather standard features, see gpu architecture, and "insiders" are buying into the hype without filter.

Perhaps the Durango does have a second CPU? Maybe it's just an ARM core for low power mode. Just like the PS4.
 
I wonder if this "rumor" suffers from the same misinterpretation that many other rumors have suffered from. Microsoft appears to be hyping aspects of the console that end up being rather standard features, see gpu architecture, and "insiders" are buying into the hype without filter.

Perhaps the Durango does have a second CPU? Maybe it's just an ARM core for low power mode. Just like the PS4.

He specifically said "dual mainboard", not dual mainboards though. Could still be a false rumor.
 
Another piece of wisdom:

If MS doesn't explicitly say: 'these are our specs etc etc', but says something like: 'we've got a very powerful system', you can bet your ass all general rumours are true (ie. 8 jaguar cores @ 1.6/1.2TF GPU), because they don't want the comparison to the PS4.

Haha its really simple confident and the same in power like this gen.
We get specs like the ps4 meeting. If we dont get specs then expect the worse.
And im gonna get ps4 day one and microsoft has to stun me with a exclusive or release halo 5 or remake halo 2hd(didn't played this one)
 
The b3d guy writes like misterxmedia and says the same things,even talks about that 4th march closed doors event:
http://misterxmedia.livejournal.com/119295.html

He has the chance of being a next gen Nostradamus like Crytek's Tiago Sousa.

...Or the biggest piece of comedic material for GAF.


You know how games are created ?

Yeah. Remember when the rumor was shut down for being in development for one year?

EA China?

60fps on next gen consoles?

No Wii U?

Nirolak digged deeper with the BF3: End Game stuff. And it was revealed to be true.
 
The b3d guy writes like misterxmedia and says the same things,even talks about that 4th march closed doors event:
http://misterxmedia.livejournal.com/119295.html

Things are very locked down right now. Nda .. Even hired fbi teams watch every forum. I dont want to put my self in danger..

ms went into lock down in jan 2013 for a reason...
They new sony was going to put 8gig of gddr5 ram in ps4 and a very powerful apu,
Also our sdk has been changed we have a 2x apu system now i dont know what the specs are 100% as this system is new 10 hours old. What I can tell you is it is still based on ati gpu's but this model has 12gig of ddr4 and the gpu is still dp... 900mhz for both apu with 2.0ghz for cpu cores.

OK, we are getting into Carnival of Stupid mode now.
 
The b3d guy writes like misterxmedia and says the same things,even talks about that 4th march closed doors event:
http://misterxmedia.livejournal.com/119295.html

Who is this guy?

Sounds like the same nonsense.

Does he/she not realise that devs will be using dev kits now with comparable specs to the final system? By his thinking, MS will just surprise devs working on launch games and be like 'So...the dev kits you have been using...are in fact...50% weaker than the final system. Great news huh?'

It's pure silliness.
 
OK, we are getting into Carnival of Stupid mode now.

Actually, the Carnival of Stupid is watching this new show with their jaws on the floor at the sheer idiocy on display, their MC has called an emergency meeting about how to meet this new challenge to their throne and rumors have it the one-legged tightrope rope walker has quit and run off with the clown car mechanics bearded wife.
 
Hahahahahaha!

That misterxmedia blog is comedy gold!!!

Next Gen War Scores Dashboard

misterxmedia
March 3rd, 14:53
Scores

Microsoft 2:1 Sony
- 1:0 Microsoft. March 2010. Microsoft started their next gen already back in 2007 with IBM and AMD and other partners. Full HSA and DX12 tech inside.
- 2:0 Microsoft. March 2012. Durango summit. Durango will be a beast. Developers pleased. Sony is far behind.
- 2:1 Sony. Feb 2013. Sony strikes first. Announces middle range PS4. PR it like it will a beast. All Sonyfans believe and brainwashed again by pro-sony journo.

Microsoft 0:10 Microsoft haters
- Many IT journo and other media think Microsoft should be punished for their anti customer behavior in the past and try to downgrade it on everyday bases. People do listen to media and Microsoft sales are going down on all fronts. Microsoft try to solve the problem but their managers just in denial, slow to react and continue their anti customer behavior with premium prices.

Sony next gen lie list
- PS4 will not block used games. Than shortly after: "we have not made anouncment yet".
- It is bad to announce first. It is not bad to announce first.
- CGI render again presented as real time on PS4 announcement. PS4 hardware could not handle that with 1.85Tflops GPU. Japanese developers try to stay relevant in graphics department and game engines development and use smoke and mirrors tactics way too often.

Microsoft next gen lie list
- list is emtpty.

First party studios count
Microsoft 14 - 17 Sony

AAA core 1st party announced exclusives
Microsoft 0-? Sony

AAA core 3st party announced games
Microsoft ?-? Sony

Pro Sony major gaming sites
- n4g.com
- neogaf.com
- vg247.com

Pro Microsoft major gaming sites
- none

I wonder if he has a GAF account!

I love console wars!
 
I think I am starting to understand. The rumors make sense. It's 8gb of ram PER CORE, plus 1 reserved for the OS. So it's 64gb of GDDR5 memory or 63 usable. Sony was afraid so they bumped it to 8.
 
Hahahahahaha!

That misterxmedia blog is comedy gold!!!



I wonder if he has a GAF account!

I love console wars!

If that guy is serious with all this, and has this much invested in it, he must be mad. As mad as that 'Deadmeat' poster on the VGLeaks articles.

Might be the same nutjob.
 
Hahahahahaha!

That misterxmedia blog is comedy gold!!!



I wonder if he has a GAF account!

I love console wars!

Looking at his posts makes me rage. That guy is either an amazing troll or really is a die hard fan who would fellate MS and swallow every last drop every single time if it were personified.

People that stupid, that devout, that committed to something like this and get uber defensive when shown reason drives me up the wall. Makes me have violent fantasies with crow bar, hammer, barbed baseball bat etc.
 
Reads more like the work of chapman than deadmeat to me.
 
Haha, loving all these BS rumors. The start of a new gen is always so exciting.

The announcement would be even more amazing if the console ended up being what the rumored VGleak-esque specs said. I would subscribe for the meltdowns, it'd make the Final Fantasy XIII on 360 meltdowns look tame in comparison.

That sounds boring. We already know those numbers and it has kinda been played out. It would be much more exciting if it was completely different.

Of course i agree that there will still be meltdowns if that were the case and it will still be fun but man i was hoping for something more.
 
why spend so much on 2 APU when you can use 1 APU that has an amd GPU with 28-32 CU,32 ROP and 240 GB/s memory bandwidth and a better CPU?

I think it's a question of costs. Why using a more complex APU when you can just stack 2 or maybe even 4 APUs together? Rumors are saying MS is secretly working on a 4D-Stacked APU solution.
 
FBI teams do not monitor message boards for NDA breaches. WTF. This guy sounds nuts.

You clearly fail to understand how important Microsoft is. The FBI obviously sees NDA breaches of MS' upcoming product line as a threat to national security.
 
How quickly we forget. SuperDaE was recently raided by AUS police working in conjunction with the FBI.

Right, because he was literally selling a dev kit that he had absolutely no ability to sell unless he stole it (in addition to the crazy amount of hacking he later admitted to, which included CC data)... Not for leaking a few specs online.
 
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