That's not true, VG Tech showed that AC was performing better on PS5. CoD looks to be locked 60 for both. And DMC's 60 mode is currently uncapped and clearly not working right, we'll have to wait and see how a patched version of that game runs.
VGTech's COD Cold War 120FPS mode comparison
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DynamiteCop!
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Like I said 2/3 titles, and it is true.
DMC's 3/4 modes run better on the Xbox, CoD's 4K mode runs better on the Xbox. Assassin's Creed singular operation runs better on the PlayStation.
Ass of Can Whooping
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Respect for being one of the few to come out and stan for Xbox
Meanwhile the other ususal suspects
Neko Mimi Mode
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"Big piece of shit system that currently has parity with my favourite system" is a really weird take.
There's truth here, first impressions matter, but I think there isn't a gap that will affect overall interest in the long term.
Like the One 720-900p Vs PS4 1080p absolutely destroyed Xbox. I jumped out too. This time it's the same resolutions with similar frame rates. There's no real narrative here, even if one is trying to be pushed.
FlyyGOD
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Since when?
Neko Mimi Mode
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Respect for being one of the few to come out and stan for Xbox
Meanwhile the other ususal suspects
Do you have me on ignore?
inflation
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Just to be clear, HDMI VRR only supports in HDMI 2.1. But you can use AMD FreeSync as an HDMI extension protocol that runs in previous versions. They are different things achieving the same goal. Some companies like Samsung backport VRR-compatible implementation in their TV.
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Ass of Can Whooping
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I just told you why you are wrong. And you repeated the same false statement.
DynamiteCop!
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What tools needed for the SSD? Also while were on the subject what happened to that 2.25x loading advantage you guys were talking about for 6 month? It ranges anywhere from worse than the Series X to 12% better.
I'm not wrong, the Series X has a 1 FPS advantage and fewer dropped frames. Not some kind of massive difference but it is in fact superior on the Xbox. Maybe if you looked at the actual statistics you could come prepared to have this conversation.
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diffusionx
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PS5 is not my favorite system, I don't own one, but looking at both with an open mind. We all knew the XSX had no new games, but I was expecting it to at least outperform the PS5 based on specs, but it can't even do that. Now we are already up to the level of dev kit truthers. Reminds me of the DX12 secret sauce on Xbox One.
Look, I've supported MS for a long time, but the XSX baffles me as a product right now, especially one they're asking a lot of money for.
captainraincoat
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Isnt the 120fps mode 1080p with an 120hz cap on it for ps5?
The series x is outputting this at 1440p according to my monitor
The series x is outputting this at 1440p according to my monitor
Another 120fps mode....welp.
Indeed.
Indeed.
Forget about the framerate...what is this!? Look at the minigun on the Series S version...
If that isn't a bug....whoo boy...
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Ass of Can Whooping
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PS5 doesn't support a 1440p output
It's 59.99 v 60. That's your victory? That's what you are claiming here? You know what man, have it. You obviously need it.
Arioco
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I know they are different, and I was saying that many TVs support both Freesync AND HDMI Forum Variable Refresh Rate through HDMI 2.0.
You can look up here:
https://www.rtings.com/tv/tests/motion/variable-refresh-rate
Some of them support Freesync and HDMI Forum VRR. Others Gsync and HDMI Forum VRR.
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DynamiteCop!
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I'm talking minimums, point is something is always better than someone else unless it's completely identical.
These are not, regardless of how small the delineation is.
Knitted Knight
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Looking at those stats, it seems like a slim, but sure enough W for PS5 once again. So we looking at 3 W's already?
Borrowing some skills from the debunk crew we can say this comment is, debunked.
Seem PS5 have the Dev kits earlier to the Devs advantage
Borrowing some skills from the debunk crew we can say this comment is, debunked.
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FlyyGOD
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Well Microsoft waited for RNDA 2 to be completed so of course the development kits would be incomplete .
What tools needed for the SSD? Also while were on the subject what happened to that 2.25x loading advantage you guys were talking about for 6 month? It ranges anywhere from worse than the Series X to 12% better.
Check the link there was jokes about needing tools for PS5 but on the subject of loading times I never sat around talking about how PS5 was going to have better loading times I talked about the SSD being more like RAM & being used to keep higher level of detail in games.
Neko Mimi Mode
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Sadly I followed DF's early advice and prioritized getting a 4k/60 TV for this gen, so it makes no difference to me.
I don't think anyone expected 120hz to be as much a factor, for consoles, as it has become.
The specs were always close, any sane individual would fully expect parity between the consoles - in terms of performance, obviously that's not taking into account things like the PS5s SSD I/O
Owning a Series X, I can tell you it's a remarkable system. Quick Resume, Game Pass, full enhanced BC and just being an all round solid, strong performer. It may not be worth it's cost for everyone, but for me and many it certainly is.
The fact the PS5 is just as capable doesn't somehow minimize that.
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DynamiteCop!
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RAM like? You're kidding right? That SSD is legitimately almost 100x slower than the physical RAM in the system itself. Its usefulness as RAM is incredibly limited.Check the link there was jokes about needing tools for PS5 but on the subject of loading times I never sat around talking about how PS5 was going to have better loading times I talked about the SSD being more like RAM & being used to keep higher level of detail in games.
It's a known tactic - when your box losing just say that this is awful on both. Just like they said, that launching xbox without games is not bad, because ps5 also hasn't good launch games.
Bonfires Down
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I'd be surprised if Xbox doesn't perform better in most titles once the tools mature. But even then the differences will be small enough that it only matters to console warriors.
You clearly don't know about specs & that is why you're lost & confused wondering why PS5 is slapping Xbox Series X around right now & making excuses for why Xbox Series X isn't showing the big power gap that you thought it would.
The SSDs in the new consoles are fast enough to make games around them that will keep a steady stream of data in the main RAM as it is needed.
captainraincoat
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Thats the point...its running at 1080p...not 1440p
Ass of Can Whooping
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No it's not
Just because the PS5 can only output at 1080p on your monitor doesn't change the internal resolution of the game
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skneogaf
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Interesting results as the xbox series x and the ps5 go up and down fps at exactly the same time. The fps difference when not at 120fps then stays that way as both go up and down.
It makes no sense as the graphics aren't exactly static settings and on screen things happening nor are gpu's exactly the same at any one point due to frequency changes from heat.
1080p at 120fps is interesting as quite a few hdmi 2.0b TVs can do that just fine so many people will not actually need to upgrade their TVs.
Both do 4k@60fps very very well which is amazing to see on a console.
It makes no sense as the graphics aren't exactly static settings and on screen things happening nor are gpu's exactly the same at any one point due to frequency changes from heat.
1080p at 120fps is interesting as quite a few hdmi 2.0b TVs can do that just fine so many people will not actually need to upgrade their TVs.
Both do 4k@60fps very very well which is amazing to see on a console.
DynamiteCop!
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Of course I do, thinking this is anything but a difference in development tool maturity and familiarity is lunacy. Hardware talk about what's happening is a delusional take perpetuated by people who know nothing about hardware and against their best interests try to put on the front of permanence.
That power gap is still there, that can't go away lol, but the software woes will. These SSD'S are great but their actual usefulness in games outside of loading is still yet to be seen, they're no replacement for RAM, merely an aid to it.
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Coolwhhip
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I like how quickly you jumped on the 'ITS THE TOOLS" train.
Trogdor1123
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He knows way more than me I'm sure but I'm kinda lost here. Ms is a pretty great software company. The software in the Xbox is pretty amazing. Why would their tools be so far behind again though? They through incredible resources at their BC, os, and internet set ups but didn't do so with their tools? Seems a bit odd but what do I know.
Seem PS5 have the Dev kits earlier to the Devs advantage
Truthfully, I also wouldn't say far behind actually. Just a touch.
Both are terrific.
Were not going to get many 120 fps games this gen, will we?
DynamiteCop!
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It's not a train, it just is what it is.
Knitted Knight
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"A console shouldn't require a tool to get it to stand."
couple months later.....
"Wait for tools"....
couple months later.....
"Wait for tools"....
Yoboman
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I see plenty of tools trying to get Xbox to stand up ITT"A console shouldn't require a tool to get it to stand."
couple months later.....
"Wait for tools"....
Romulus
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Then you have to figure in the PS5 will improve also, then boom mid gen consoles hit. Start all over again.
danstar
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Knitted Knight
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Coolwhhip
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You don't know that. PS5 could just be a better engineered console for actually running games.
Romulus
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What generation showed one console start out losing most multiplatform battles, then by the end of the generation the opposite was true? Not a recent single generation that I can think of. I can remember a few were it improved, but not some huge difference.
It basically stays the same throughout with multiplatforms:
Original Xbox started out dominating the competition and continued throughout
360 dominated and PS3 improved, but still, 360 won the majority even at the end of 7 years
PS4 started out strong and stayed strong
PS4 Pro and X1X, same. X1X came out swinging and never stopped with only a few Pro victories.
Sounds like false hopes. It'll likely stay like this or equal out at best. Good luck with the storyline that the XSX will dominate. There's just never been a flip like that because as the tools are improving on one console, it does on the other too.
It basically stays the same throughout with multiplatforms:
Original Xbox started out dominating the competition and continued throughout
360 dominated and PS3 improved, but still, 360 won the majority even at the end of 7 years
PS4 started out strong and stayed strong
PS4 Pro and X1X, same. X1X came out swinging and never stopped with only a few Pro victories.
Sounds like false hopes. It'll likely stay like this or equal out at best. Good luck with the storyline that the XSX will dominate. There's just never been a flip like that because as the tools are improving on one console, it does on the other too.
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DynamiteCop!
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oldergamer
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People shouldnt forget early firmware for any console is typically the worst performance wise.
DynamiteCop!
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You guys have a keen ability to ignore what's been said, and in general reality itself.Yes, how very odd forCoolwhhip to think the platform running games better is better at running games
Yoboman
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Says the guy literally ignoring reality of the performance we have on the games running now, for some vague promise of dev tool improvements coming to the rescue