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[pargonta]

Nobody cares about online polls, those are not real polls. That is like polling neogaf and declaring it accurate.

i wasn't watching cnn so i didn't know the source population of that other poll. did people text to vote or something lol? what's the poll source then for that 48 one

 

[Phoenix]

I really really hope Obama comes out swinging like Biden did in the next debate.

That would be a terrible mistake.

 

[BertramCooper]

So what are the chances that Biden shows up in blackface at the next presidential debate?

 

[Baconsammy]

Takeoff your glasses. "We didn't know they wanted more support" Really? Also the smirking and laughing is not going to play well to independents. The fucking Paris embassy had a Marine guard but not Bengazi. A fucking disgrace.

My glasses are reading the surveys of "undecided voters". Biden kicked his ass according to them. Do you want to call them liars? Biden clowned Ryan. Ryan clowned himself on Afghanistan. How the hell do you not know that American soldiers are being replaced with Afghan soldiers that we trained? What a dope.

 

[MormaPope]

So basically the more aggressive person is the most convincing regardless of content.

That's what people said about the previous debate with Romney and Obama.

 

[ElectricBlue187]

So basically the more aggressive person is the most convincing regardless of content.

he wasn't aggressive on Abortion, did you watch the debate?

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

dat false equivalency

Biden looked more like someone who should be in a government position, but neither came off as a good vice-presidential candidate. Biden just demonstrated bad traits while Ryan demonstrated cripplingly terrible traits. Which makes Biden the winner I guess.

 

[Forever]

Biden is so articulate and clean.

 

[Tawney Bomb]

Did these people on CNN watch the debate they just aired.

 

[watershed]

The real objective of Joe Biden's debate performance was to fire up democrats and liberals after they all became depressed because of Obama's bad debate. So if you're a democrat or a liberal or an Obama supporter of any kind and you're feeling good about how Joe Biden did tonight: Mission Accomplished.

 

[ErasureAcer]

I did $15. Want to match that?

Alright. Just donated $15.

 

[ggnoobIGN]

Does anyone else find it annoying that some major websites coverage on the debates are nothing more than twitter feeds? I mean, really.

 

[diehard]

This is how republicans win these sorts of things overall. They get everyone to play into their shitty naming scheme...

Because they know the definition of the word "entitlement"?

lol

 

[Thagomizer]

I was saying earlier that Biden doesn't come off well with women. He sounds a bit chauvinistic. My wife said it right away and a little bit later my girlfriend pretty much said the same thing.

OK, I'll admit, I laughed out loud at this.

 

[CrankyJay]

That's what people said about the previous debate with Romney and Obama.

/nod

Just shows people aren't listening so much as watching what the candidates do.

 

[FLEABttn]

Alright. Just donated $15.

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[Mercury Fred]

Biden looked more like someone who should be in a government position, but neither came off as a good vice-presidential candidate. Biden just demonstrated bad traits while Ryan demonstrated cripplingly terrible traits. Which makes Biden the winner I guess.

Biden knew his shit and gave real answers. Ryan obfuscated, lied and avoided questions he didn't want to answer.

But yeah, they're the same. People like you disgust me. And no, I'm not joking.

 

[jokkir]

Ryan 48%, Biden 44% on CNN poll >__>

 

[Kinvara]

I really really hope Obama comes out swinging like Biden did in the next debate.

Obama just needs to show some energy this coming debate but not come off as too aggressive.

What worked with Biden won't work for Obama.

 

[makingmusic476]

So what are the chances that Biden shows up in blackface at the next presidential debate?

Ahahaha.

I imagined Biden calling up Obama after this debate and going "AND THAT'S HOW YOU DO IT, SON."

 

[LiquidSolid]

Damnit, just got home. Where can I watch the Annihilation from Biden Station?

 

[Oldschoolgamer]

Ryan 48%, Biden 44% on CNN poll >__>

wtf.

 

[Vicetrailia]

Seriously.

"Our entire premise is JOB CREATORS JOB CREATORS JOB CREATORS JOB CREATORS"

It's sad but when thinking of Romney/Ryan, be sure to read the FINE PRINT.

 

[CrankyJay]

he wasn't aggressive on Abortion, did you watch the debate?

Just commenting on overall performance.

 

[Gr1mLock]

I feel sorry for CNN trying desperately to reclaim some viewership by artificially leaning right. Its fucking sad.

 

[Tragicomedy]

Ryan was too defensive and his eyes are fucking creepy

I have to agree with that second part.

True story: my wife said Ryan looks like a Precious Moments vampire.

 

[LordCanti]

The real objective of Joe Biden's debate performance was to fire up democrats and liberals after they all became depressed because of Obama's bad debate. So if you're a democrat or a liberal or an Obama supporter of any kind and you're feeling good about how Joe Biden did tonight: Mission Accomplished.

It would also be nice if the American public saw the Romney/Ryan tax plan for what it was (a crippling blow to the middle class) at the same time that the base was getting fired up. The same goes for their health care plan, education plan, etc.

 

[Arrowgigantic]

 

[BertramCooper]

Takeoff your glasses. "We didn't know they wanted more support" Really? Also the smirking and laughing is not going to play well to independents. The fucking Paris embassy had a Marine guard but not Bengazi. A fucking disgrace.

The only people on my Facebook feed bitching about Biden's laughing are the hardcore conservatives.

Anecdotal, but still.

 

[Sye d'Burns]

That didn't happen in this debate, that was spin. As someone who has done a tour in Afghanistan (in the horn of Panjwai, which is arguably more dangerous than most places in RC-E they were talking about), I can tell you that our soldiers are already out and conducting patrols in all those places.

Both men were bending the facts. Biden was saying it was okay to reduce our troop levels ahead of the surge because Afghans are fulfilling those roles on a 1-to-1 replacement ratio. That's entirely untrue, and even if it was mathematically correct (and it isn't), the Afghan forces I worked with over there are not on the same level as our soldiers and marines.

Ryan was distorting the timeline of events. General Petraeus and Admiral Mullen were saying it was a bad idea to draw down our total numbers from our surge prior to the fighting season. Traditionally, that fighting season runs from ~March-August, give or take a month either way. The surge troops remained in theater for the bulk of this past offensive. Ryan was trying to make the case that they wouldn't be there for the NEXT spring offensive, but that was never part of the deal. By that type of faulty logic, we'd need to leave the extra troops there indefinitely.

Poor arguments made by both men. Both were wrong on that one.

There was some pretty interesting info in that post. Thanks!

 

[apana]

Biden won the debate easily. Sure some polls will reflect that he lost some brownie points with soccer moms for all the smirking but he got the job done and took the fight to them. People know in their hearts who won. I think this will stop some bleeding for Obama but he is going to have to finish the job himself.

 

[ErasureAcer]

Rufus Gifford thanks you for your donation.

That he just did.

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[chubigans]

Biden knew his shit and gave real answers. Ryan obfuscated, lied and avoided questions he didn't want to answer.

But yeah, they're the same. People like you disgust me. And no, I'm not joking.

Every time I come across your posts on GAF you're always so damn angry. Geez man.

 

[ezekial45]

Those pictures are so awful in hindsight.

 

[ggnoobIGN]

i wasn't watching cnn so i didn't know the source population of that other poll. did people text to vote or something lol? what's the poll source then for that 48 one

Not sure. They said it was registered voters only, so not a public online one.

 

[ElectricBlue187]

Just commenting on overall performance.

Then I'm not sure how you can imply that Ryan beat Biden on content. Biden asked Ryan for specifics all night and he refused to deliver any

 

[knicks]

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.co...-on-debate-winner-ryan-48-biden-44/?hpt=hp_t1

this is ridiculous

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

Biden knew his shit and gave real answers. Ryan obfuscated, lied and avoided questions he didn't want to answer.

But yeah, they're the same. People like you disgust me. And no, I'm not joking.

You seem to have a lot of anger and to be jumping to a lot of conclusions about my thought process, I think you should calm down.

 

[smurfx]

obama can't come out aggressive like biden did today. he has to look cool but at the same time he needs to be constantly making romney defend his positions and his flip flopping. make people aware of how full of crap he really is.

 

[pargonta]

Not sure. They said it was registered voters only, so not a public online one.

right on. i suppose the source can just be... cnn. phone polling or some other in house thing.

 

[Evlar]

For a period of time I was in the Biden camp during the 2008 primaries.

 

[MThanded]

Then I'm not sure how you can imply that Ryan beat Biden on content. Biden asked Ryan for specifics all night and he refused to deliver any

Yeah. Ryan wiggled out of these questions all night.

 

[CrankyJay]

Then I'm not sure how you can imply that Ryan beat Biden on content. Biden asked Ryan for specifics all night and he refused to deliver any

I didn't.

 

[Veezy]

That would be a terrible mistake.

Exactly.

Let's be clear, Biden did what Biden needed to do. He came out, did the whole "I'm a regular blue collar guy" thing and gave that work Ryan. This is for two reasons:

1. To energize the base after Obama's inability to call out Romney more during their debate.
2. To make Ryan look stupid. Remember, Ryan is the "numbers" guy. This is who everybody was looking to for data. And he didn't bring shit.

Biden was dickish, indeed, but he's allowed to be. He's Joe Biden. That kinda his thing.

Al Gore was boring. Dick was evil. Plain was middle class momma. Joe's a regular six pack kinda guy.

He's allowed to be a dick. However, he is not running to be president of the United States. Obama needs to ride this, and when he walks into the next debate he needs to bring facts and data to the table and when Romney lies he needs to politely say "where are you getting your information, because that's wrong."

 

[Mercury Fred]

Every time I come across your posts on GAF you're always so damn angry. Geez man.

Oh no, now you haz a sad. Maybe you should block me.

You seem to have a lot of anger and to be jumping to a lot of conclusions about my thought process, I think you should calm down.

And maybe you should screw your head on straight before weighing in.

 

[ThisWreckage]

This debate was a wash.

 

[Complex Shadow]

anyone have a good yt clip on the abortion issue? all i got is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17AgXMYquos

 

[Doc Holliday]

That's difference between the two sides. When liberals loose a debate the world is falling apart. When the GOP loose a debate "wtf are you talking about we did great".

 

[diehard]

You seem to have a lot of anger and to be jumping to a lot of conclusions about my thought process, I think you should calm down.

lol just ignore that dude, trust me.

And maybe you should screw your head on straight before weighing in.

You're like a caricature , it's quite funny.

 

[Tragicomedy]

obama can't come out aggressive like biden did today. he has to look cool but at the same time he needs to be constantly making romney defend his positions and his flip flopping. make people aware of how full of crap he really is.

Bingo. Any advisor worth his/her paycheck is telling the President to press Romney, but do so in a calm, collected manner. You rarely win debates with bullying.