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VIDEO: George Lucas to Autograph Hound: "Get a job"
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XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Nah, he's approved of some interesting tech projects at ILM over the years.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Are autographs really more "honest" though?
I was always under the impression the reasoning behind getting one was to prove to people you actually met the celebrity you said you did.
Which is kinda weird, because what kind of bullshit artist you have to be to get a goddamn signature to prove to your friends you're not lying? Like, how dishonest are you in the day to day that when you tell people you bumped into George Lucas once they're like "I need this in writing, Fred, you piece of shit, I've been burned by you one time too many, but not today, pal. Show me receipts right fuckin' now, or you're getting a slap."
I was always under the impression the reasoning behind getting one was to prove to people you actually met the celebrity you said you did.
Which is kinda weird, because what kind of bullshit artist you have to be to get a goddamn signature to prove to your friends you're not lying? Like, how dishonest are you in the day to day that when you tell people you bumped into George Lucas once they're like "I need this in writing, Fred, you piece of shit, I've been burned by you one time too many, but not today, pal. Show me receipts right fuckin' now, or you're getting a slap."
molnizzle
Member
eh, franchise seems to be doing alright.
In a world where TFA and Rogue One didn't exist, that could be true.
The prequels were pretty cool too. It's not like they were cinematic abominations. They were just disappointing if you were a nerd about Star Wars.
polyh3dron
Banned
Good. Those fucking parasites are something else.
Those movies are just vehicles to sell merchandise, he did an admirable job of it.
Raigan5088
Banned
Id hate that so much, id tell them all to go fuck themselves
PabloBolivar
Banned
Not even close hahaha. There will always be a desire and large market for autographed memorabilia. A selfie basically has no value for anyone other than the person in the pic.
I recently went to spring training baseball in Florida. Why would I only ask for a selfie when I can get something tangible like an autographed ball that I can put in a display case or sell for $200 now and possibly much much more in the future?
Imperfected
Member
Do you have a job, George?
Yeah pissing off his rich neighbors by building affordable housing.
It's just some movies about space wizards, relax
Imperfected
Member
That's a solid one, but I have a feeling he's just bankrolling it, and not going in there and pulling a 9-5 on planning and development.
There's just something about a guy who's effectively been an artist in semi-retirement for the last twenty years telling people to "get a job" that kind of pisses me off.
Edit: Like, if he told the guy, "Why don't you go create your own billion dollar franchise?" that's fine, fair game. "Get a job" is language he just doesn't have any right using.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Why isn't that value enough though, I guess?
Like, I get that there's an established market that you can use/exploit, (I said as much in the post you quoted) but if the whole purpose of getting a keepsake of a memory/moment in your life that you value is to then attach a dollar amount to it and put it on that market, aren't you then sort of just turning meaningful personal moments into commodities?
(although honestly, you could argue there are people who are doing that on Twitter/Insta, but their currency of choice is likes/RTs, which you can't even spend.)
Anyway: Why is a selfie only being worth something to you and you alone not worth anything at all in your view?
thesoapster
Member
I thought he wrote on The Hound, "Get a job."
Depends on the context, I was talking to Michael Sheen for like 5 minutes before asking for a photo so it wasn't like I just ran up and got one then ran away. Autographs are a purely monetary thing, they wouldn't give you one if you didn't pay them.
A photo with a celeb you like is there forever, to show to your grandkids that you met this person once.
I guess it's also collectable, because the person will be dead some day. Also, the person is inaccessible and desired. Do you think Walt Disney's real signature stops being valuable, because people have selfies?
I feel like if I was a celebrity, I would rather sign stuff than have some asshole grab me and pose me like a prop to be displayed for their friends. At least a signature is something you create by hand. Someone taking a crappy picture of you with a stranger to be shared with the world seems worse to me.
MisterHero
Super Member
He should buy their storefronts and burn them down
Michael F. Assbender
Banned
Truth.
By that logic, how is an autograph not a "prop"? Are your friends props if you take photos with them? I don't get it.
That's pretty much how it goes. A friend of mine does it as a hobby and I go with him occasionaly (to minor league baseball games). We would watch the game, get some autographs there, then head out to the area where guys were leaving if there was a card he really wanted signed that he missed in the stadium. Often a hoard of guys would show up with hundreds of cards. I was told they go every single day to get multiples of guys so they have a number to sell if the guy makes it big.
Lan Dong Mik
And why would I want them?
I love George Lucas but goddamn he seems miserable.
Trying to remember when he last seemed happy. I think it was circa 1986.
BronsonLee
Member
I don't think Bobby understands exactly how much I would lie to people growing up
SuperStiltzkin
Member
I mean, sure, when you couch it in swears and negative words, you can make any practice seem shitty.
IISANDERII
Member
I'd love to see George Lucas run for US president.
I'm sure he's bothered in his gold plated hot tub
Michael F. Assbender
Banned
As long as he doesnt write his own speeches.
Only a Republican deals in absolutes.
*eyeroll*
Autographs are a 90's trend that needs to die out.
Getting photos with celebs for free is better.
What???
Kids have been getting their baseball cards signed since the 50's/60's
90's is just when it got scummy.
Tal Shiar Agent
Banned
Who'd win in a fight. Darkseid or Palpatine in his prime?
Imperfected
Member
Ditka, but he'd need an extra week to master the Force.
MisterHero
Super Member
I bought like 19 copies of that issue
moltonasty
Member
lmao, I love how George gives no fucks
If someone doesn't want it signed TO them, they just want a signature, that's also a dead giveaway.
"Could you make it out to Mr. E. Bay?"
I mean, for me (and I'm sure for other people) the central appeal of an autograph would be in instantly attaining a certain sense of connection a particular celebrity...knowing there was a moment in that person's life where they stopped what they were doing and did something for you specifically, whilst you would get keep a memento as a token of that specific moment. It's not really about getting the autograph as "evidence" that you met that person so you can brag about the encounter with your friends...just knowing you've shared an interaction with a celebrity you happen to admire.
I guess autographs feel more "honest" to me because they feel very simple and straight forward in offering you that sense of connection, wheras selfies, even though they're offering you a similiar experience, they seem more....presumpous, somehow? I feel like a selfie asks more from the celebrity, given that they have to put something of a face on and "perform" for the camera in a certain way purely for your benefit. In that sense, it seems more intrunsive. I don't know. I also think a lot of the time, selfies can often imply a level of connection or emotion that's false or often completely unwarranted given that you've probably never met that person in your life, in a way that can make me uncomfortable. I feel selfies can often lie in what they're communicating (such as a specific bond with someone), as opposed to autographs which in and of themselves only confirm an interaction with another celebrity you get to keep as a memento, without requiring the celebrty to awkwardly pose for it.
Haven't really put some serious thought into the subject before, so apologies if that comes across as a bit rambly.
Darth Pinche
Member
Autographs are a 90's trend that needs to die out.
Getting photos with celebs for free is better.
This is going away too, sadly. The last few cons I've been to, most celebs charge for photos with them. I've had their "handlers" yell at me for just taking a candid photo as they walk by "No photos! Get in line to pay for your photo!" And this was for Manu Bennett, not exactly an A lister.
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
I think taking a selfie at some sort of event is fine, because it's kinda built-in to the whole thing.
Bumping into someone on the street and asking for one? Kinda weird and probably slightly annoying.
Bumping into someone on the street and asking for one? Kinda weird and probably slightly annoying.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Didn't come off as rambly at all! Thanks.
In the case of the eBay market I don't mind it.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Plus you can see that dude keep shoving stuff in front of George after being told twice not to keep doing it.
Like he ducked back behind the scrum and poked an arm through or somethin.
Like he ducked back behind the scrum and poked an arm through or somethin.