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Video released of Tulsa PD shooting and killing unarmed black man (Up: not guilty)
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This your first rodeo?
Dreams-Visions
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If that's your metric for justice in the world, you may want to sit down. I have some very bad news to share with you.
If only we really did have Luke Cage powers.
FunkyMunkey
Banned
what boils my blood about this is the lying. to me, that makes all of these scenarios 5 times worse because it's a means to try to cover it up and taints what trust some people have left in police. humans make mistakes, we understand that. but you don't need to take a steaming piss all over the disappearing trust people have in police.
Terrible. She better get charged and convicted for this. I want to know more, why that large a police presence, why a helicopter, why was his car halfway into the other lane?
And like saw some people commenting, what if he was hearing impaired and couldn't hear their commands? They had no idea if he was or not...
Glad there's video of this to expose the lies.
And like saw some people commenting, what if he was hearing impaired and couldn't hear their commands? They had no idea if he was or not...
Glad there's video of this to expose the lies.
At this point, I've stopped expecting these officers to be held accountable for their actions. Just stop with the song and dance, and give her her paid vacation and then send her back to work next year. You're all just wasting our fucking time with the pretense of actually doing an investigation designed to provide justice to the victims.
The fact that officers being held accountable is more an exception to the rule depresses the fuck out of me. It's hard to keep fighting, but the hope is it'll be worth it in the end.
The fact that officers being held accountable is more an exception to the rule depresses the fuck out of me. It's hard to keep fighting, but the hope is it'll be worth it in the end.
Sigh. Fucking scum of the earth. And other officers would rather turn a blind eye on these "bad apples" than actually uphold the law.
Dreams-Visions
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You expect them to tell the truth and lose their job and/or go to prison? I don't think so. Most people are not that honorable when the heat is on. People talk big about duty, honor and personal responsibility until it's their ass about to be roasted on an open flame. Then basic survival instinct kicks in. People need to stop idolizing these people. They are just as prone to being pieces of shit as anyone else and must be critiqued as such. The fact that they haven't is the reason why we're here today. Again.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
After the black care worker that got shot last month while laying down in broad daylight with his arms in the air, its hard to be surprised by anything really.
America's police system needs a biblical tear-down and rebuild.
I mean what are these cops watching on television or reading in the news where they're STILL not being even the slightest hesitant to become murderers? Supers aren't starting every shift with a stern "MAYBE TRY AND NOT MURDER ANY CIVILIANS TODAY?"
America's police system needs a biblical tear-down and rebuild.
I mean what are these cops watching on television or reading in the news where they're STILL not being even the slightest hesitant to become murderers? Supers aren't starting every shift with a stern "MAYBE TRY AND NOT MURDER ANY CIVILIANS TODAY?"
Psychoward
Banned
Has it been said why there were so many cops called and a helicopter circling them in the first place?
I'm not doubting what happened was murder but that seems odd and uneeded. Nothing better to do?
I'm not doubting what happened was murder but that seems odd and uneeded. Nothing better to do?
Tangled Up in Blue
Banned
Not only will she not go to jail, I have serious doubts that she will even be fired.
Even if she is fired, she'll just get hired by another police department, anyway.
What are they seeing on TV that tells them it's not OK for them to shoot innocent people? 99% of these cases, the cop gets off with no punishment. If they are watching TV, all they're seeing is that this behavior is OK, and that the group of people they have a systematic prejudice against are "causing trouble."
DrForester
Kills Photobucket
Watched the video. Is the murdering gang member who shot the unarmed man the one who said on the radio that he was not showing his hands?
If it's not the same woman, is that gang member also getting a paid vacation, or does she still have to go to work every day?
If it's not the same woman, is that gang member also getting a paid vacation, or does she still have to go to work every day?
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
I honestly don't understand how America is a real country basically. Any news coming from over there feels like youtubers commenting on how shit got so fucked up in GTAV or Fallout last night, no consequences.
I guess it also speaks to how docile 2016 western populations are that this hasn't escalated into a full on civil war by this point.
"Initially, police said Crutcher disobeyed officers' orders to raise his arms."
"In the dashcam video, Crutcher has his arms raised as he walks back to his vehicle. That's when Shelby fires her gun."
Hmmmmm. And that's why I don't pay attention to initial police reports when there's no footage or other non-police witnesses.
"In the dashcam video, Crutcher has his arms raised as he walks back to his vehicle. That's when Shelby fires her gun."
Hmmmmm. And that's why I don't pay attention to initial police reports when there's no footage or other non-police witnesses.
Pretty much, and I'm pretty sure they get paid more when actually working on the field.
CassidyIzABeast
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Won't do time. Blackwater wasn't even this teflon. 4 of their employees are serving time behind killing innocent people meanwhile police can't even get time for killing a 12 year old on video. This shit is fucked up man.
Suspect had no guns in the car. He had his arms raised. He wasn't posing any immediate threat. He was surrounded by atleast 5 cops. There were overwhelming video evidence of the murder. (this is key, if there is no video maybe she gets off by doing the his dead words against mine BS)
She's going to jail the question is for how long. I'm willing to bet anything on this.
I'd still say brace for disappointment
Dunedain_Ranger
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Do we have a #handsupwhileblack yet ? this shit is disturbing.
My bad, catching up on the news.
Black people can't even have their car break down without getting killed, but this shit-stain in New Jersey sets off a bomb and he's taken alive?
Amazing.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...klahoma_us_57e0411fe4b0071a6e08db5f?section=&
Can't wait for this bullshit to be proven untrue.
Psychoward
Banned
Reposting what I said on another forum to a person defending this woman.
You say we should wait for evidence but we have evidence right now that the man did not have a gun on his person or in his vehicle. In addition there were multiple armed officers pointing at him. It doesn't matter if he was threatening to kill the president, that's why non lethal options exist for the police. They're equipped with tazers and handcuffs for that very reason, to non-lethally subdue threats. An even more competent officer would realize that they're in no immediate danger by seeing that the man didn't even have a gun on him.
Whatever the justice department's ruling is on this, there's no excuse for gunning down an unarmed man when you have him surrounded and have access to stun guns. None. That is not the police's role and by waving it away as not a big issue or to wait for more evidence you're actively encouraging the militarization of the police force. If you'll notice even heavy conservative/right users in this thread I heavily disagree with on most topics aren't defending the woman because there is no defense. She failed at her role of being a police officer and the police system failed the dead man by letting her become one.
You say we should wait for evidence but we have evidence right now that the man did not have a gun on his person or in his vehicle. In addition there were multiple armed officers pointing at him. It doesn't matter if he was threatening to kill the president, that's why non lethal options exist for the police. They're equipped with tazers and handcuffs for that very reason, to non-lethally subdue threats. An even more competent officer would realize that they're in no immediate danger by seeing that the man didn't even have a gun on him.
Whatever the justice department's ruling is on this, there's no excuse for gunning down an unarmed man when you have him surrounded and have access to stun guns. None. That is not the police's role and by waving it away as not a big issue or to wait for more evidence you're actively encouraging the militarization of the police force. If you'll notice even heavy conservative/right users in this thread I heavily disagree with on most topics aren't defending the woman because there is no defense. She failed at her role of being a police officer and the police system failed the dead man by letting her become one.
TheStruggler
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"that looks like a bad dude to"
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Why because he is black???? Jesus fucking christ people this will not change sadly and there is nothing we can do about it, fucking hell.
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Why because he is black???? Jesus fucking christ people this will not change sadly and there is nothing we can do about it, fucking hell.
Monster Zero
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Its like something out of a south park episode, almost cartoonish at this point
EdibleKnife
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I mean all it is is people succumbing to the old adage of absolute power corrupting absolutely. However the institution is now, it is the way it is because they are not only given power but they are rarely held accountable for the misuse of that power in all occasions by the mainstream.You get cops with big heads, cops that are corrupt, departments that are mired in bias and reprehensible policing and cops that try to do their job well while having to stay silent about their fellows who abuse their authority. And when people are caught red handed, for many people they defer to the 'heroics' of the job rather than the responsibility of the job. It's a culture bred in tandem with the help of citizens who "see nothing wrong with the way things work".
Unless there's something else not shown in the video I don't think there was even reason to use a taser, and certainly not a firearm. The "I thought it was my taser" defense shouldn't really work if the taser also represents an over-use of force.
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Or was it that he was headed back to the car? Which is strange they reported his noncompliance as not raising his hands instead of going for the car, which seems worse. Even so she can't really claim to have been under duress or extreme pressure or anything.
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Or was it that he was headed back to the car? Which is strange they reported his noncompliance as not raising his hands instead of going for the car, which seems worse. Even so she can't really claim to have been under duress or extreme pressure or anything.
Psychoward
Banned
It's hard to take that line seriously from him when it was more than one "bad apple" in his "bunch" considering other officers lied about his hands not being up.
Chie Satonaka
Member
Justice means justice for the officer, not for the victim.
In that sense, he's right. They'll absolutely get justice for that poor woman who didn't have a choice but to fire on that man.
Psychoward
Banned
The I thought it was my taser defense should never work.
A cop that is unable to tell the difference between a taser and a pistol to the point where he or she can fire one thinking it's the other should not be allowed to be a cop.
ColdLasagna
Member
This will all get far worse before it ever gets better.
HOW THE FUCK DO THESE PEOPLE JUST LEAVE HIM DYING LIKE THAT WITHOUT DOING ANYTHING! Fuck I can't deal with such completely evil behavior. Oh my god.
I hate, like really really hate the genocidal racism especially in the US. This is 2016 version of public lynching, and everyone defending the police or white supremacy in the US is a despicable human being.
Fuck the police and fuck racists and fuck all the people being complicit in white supremacy.
I hate, like really really hate the genocidal racism especially in the US. This is 2016 version of public lynching, and everyone defending the police or white supremacy in the US is a despicable human being.
Fuck the police and fuck racists and fuck all the people being complicit in white supremacy.
psynergylover
Member
saw this earlier......fuck this man!!!
all get is some bs spin, cop on paid leave, and some hush money for the family.
all get is some bs spin, cop on paid leave, and some hush money for the family.
Vicetrailia
Banned
Surprise, surprise.
And it's still possible that she can get off I'm sure. The bad apples/good apples seems highly conditional.
And it's still possible that she can get off I'm sure. The bad apples/good apples seems highly conditional.
TheContact
Member
I can't comprehend what made that officer shoot that man. He was doing everything they asked him to. What even justified the tazer? I know most police are good but god damn it's like in the back of your mind you know you could be that person every time you encounter the police. There needs to be a huge overhaul of how police are trained across the whole country not just different counties.
EdibleKnife
Member
Couldn't agree more. The fact that there are people out there who have/will watch this video and find nothing wrong with it makes me physically ill. These same people will be livid at blocked traffic and sitting down during national anthems. At BLM bangles and shows of solidarity for the victim's family. But they will have no emotional reaction (and possibly even satisfaction) at the body of a dead black man at the hands of authorities. It's draining to think about let alone interact with such people.
Baron von Loathsome
Member
A white person killing a black person in cold blood, in Tulsa? Surely you jest.
Murder. Like, what else can you say?
I do want to give a shout out and thanks to the cop who stopped to see if I was okay one late winter night when my tire blew out on the interstate and I had to pull over. I guess I didn't know how lucky I was at the time that he didn't just straight up murder me because I am black and my car was inoperable. :/
I do want to give a shout out and thanks to the cop who stopped to see if I was okay one late winter night when my tire blew out on the interstate and I had to pull over. I guess I didn't know how lucky I was at the time that he didn't just straight up murder me because I am black and my car was inoperable. :/
Captin Quacker
Member
ya'll are trippin if you think this
is even gonna see a courtroom
and if she got kids she'll be labeled a hero
is even gonna see a courtroom
and if she got kids she'll be labeled a hero
SolidSnakex
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Mass Effect
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I almost don't even care anymore. I am so leaving this shitty country the second I get the chance.
I know it will obviously never happen, but I wish countries offer asylum to black Americans.
I know it will obviously never happen, but I wish countries offer asylum to black Americans.
xVaalbarAx
Member
The city has been on edge since this reveal. They weren't expecting it to be a national story. Like really? Come on.
SaviourMK2
Member
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMJHjo6bnHk
I'm so fucking tired of this shit.They make legitimate good cops look bad.
I'm so fucking tired of this shit.They make legitimate good cops look bad.
PataHikari
Banned
"Legitmate good cops" get fired.
The best you could hope for is a country that just hates black people instead of country that hates black people and has gun control/police militarization issues.
Yaphett Kotto
Member
I'm so tired of reading these stories. All go the same path, then I gotta listen to fucking nonsense coming out of the mouths of white coworkers when CNN has it in the headlines, then hear the disappointment when the cop is acquitted, given a weak ass sentence, or no charges. I get enough from people crying over kneeling for the anthem.
I just wonder, when there is reform, when there are more protections, regulations, and laws that discourage this shit, how many lives were taken.
I just wonder, when there is reform, when there are more protections, regulations, and laws that discourage this shit, how many lives were taken.
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