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[DeepEnigma]

ive seen some youtube documentaries on guard rails and the engineering behind them has gotten so advanced that even a hard impact like this one would be survivable. you dont even need water barrells, Modern guard rails can redirect the car and absorb the force much better. having a literal brick wall there is straight up retarded.

It's how they're designed on race tracks as well. Basically densely layered block foam barriers behind the impact points that absorbs massive amounts of that kinetic energy without transferring it back to the driver.

Foam barriers on race tracks, most famously the SAFER Barrier (Steel And Foam Energy Reduction), are crucial safety devices using steel tubes and foam blocks to absorb and dissipate a race car's kinetic energy during high-speed impacts, reducing driver injury by spreading the impact over a longer distance and preventing car bounces back onto the track. Developed at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln, these "soft walls" are now standard on most oval tracks for NASCAR and IndyCar, protecting drivers by acting as a deformable layer in front of rigid concrete walls.

 

[swaffles23]

man RIP.. he literally hit the worst part of that concrete barrier

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Rip to the passenger.

if its any consolation they likely didnt suffer.

No way, you can hear the passenger grunt in pain before they get dragged away.

 

[//DEVIL//]

Just saw the video on tiktok ( also I guess poster here ) of the car crashing. He tried to stop but the breaks didn't help at that speed.

People there tried to help even though there was fire. But I am guessing it was too late then.

Man what the fuck was he thinking ? Why go this fast in a tunnel you can only see bright light from the other end. Jesus

 

[Idleyes]

RIP. I have nothing bad to say about them. They made a mistake and paid the ultimate price. Anything beyond empathy for them and their loved ones feels unnecessary at this point.

 

[Represent.]

No gaming podcasts talking about this? What the fuck? Whenever huge news happens in any other industry, they do "emergency podcast" episodes. What a boring industry. RIP Vince.

 

[SeanyQuest]

cod4, mw2, titanfall 1+2, Jedi fallen order, apex legends, battlefield 6. Any kind of part this guy played you were getting a good product.

We shall never see his like again. And now his watch has ended.

 

[chromatic9]

Shame they didn't fit a proper barrier that can absorb and even guide the car along. Adding a concrete block closer to the road seems a bit crude and lethal if you get a bit squirrely as the roads drops.

 

[TexMex]

Dudes here trying to gaslight people into believing that not following speed limits is somehow a normal everyday thing that the average joe just forgets to do and could happen to literally anyone.

Might want to start obeying those dude, its really not hard. Is the number above the number on the sign? Take your foot off the accelerator and apply the break, keep doing that the rest of your life, its dead easy.

But theres a reason that this will massively dominate the conversation, and will forever be what hes remembered for.

We found the guy who has never sped everyone.

 

[kpopSuperstar]

We found the guy who has never sped everyone.

What do you consider speeding? driving a little over on the freeway or driving fast on straight paths is one thing, but getting a sports car and going twice the speed limit is something 95% of people would never consider, even if they had the money.

 

[rkofan87]

dam he won't see the Jedi Trilogy to its conclusion sad
rip

 

[DeepEnigma]

but getting a sports car and going twice the speed limit is something 95% of people would never consider, even if they had the money.

 

[TexMex]

What do you consider speeding? driving a little over on the freeway or driving fast on straight paths is one thing, but getting a sports car and going twice the speed limit is something 95% of people would never consider, even if they had the money.

I'm going off what that user considered speeding, which is the literal interpretation.

And I know his speeding was egregious. I take exception with a bunch of shitty hot takes being like, welp, serves ya right! That's what you get! He's dead for christs sake. Literally just happened. Can the internet not be empathetic for 24 hours before we pivot to a bunch of shitty hot takes? I know the answer is of course not, but still.

 

[BossLackey]

It's so easy to

Just saw the video on tiktok ( also I guess poster here ) of the car crashing. He tried to stop but the breaks didn't help at that speed.

People there tried to help even though there was fire. But I am guessing it was too late but then.

Man what the fuck was he thinking ? Why go this fast in a tunnel you can only see bright light from the other end end. Jesus

Yeah, it wasn't too smart. One bad decision is all it takes when you're driving a car that has more power than traction, unfortunately. Which is any sportscar.

 

[photogaz]

Read somewhere that uber sports cars tend to have bad standardised safety ratings, if any. Really tragic accident.

They aren't safety tested because it's too expensive to build a car and then crash it. These cars don't need to be on the road. Yes you can flip a car on a race track but with specialist barriers the risk is less. Anyone could have been coming in the other direction too.

Paul Walker and Diogo Jota both died of supercar accidents. These are too powerful for some people.

 

[clarky]

They aren't safety tested because it's too expensive to build a car and then crash it. These cars don't need to be on the road. Yes you can flip a car on a race track but with specialist barriers the risk is less. Anyone could have been coming in the other direction too.

Paul Walker and Diogo Jota both died of supercar accidents. These are too powerful for some people.

Any car needs to meet safety standards or they are not allow on the road.

You think they build an 800 bhp machine and say fuck it lets see how you get on????

 

[clarky]

I'm going off what that user considered speeding, which is the literal interpretation.

And I know his speeding was egregious. I take exception with a bunch of shitty hot takes being like, welp, serves ya right! That's what you get! He's dead for christs sake. Literally just happened. Can the internet not be empathetic for 24 hours before we pivot to a bunch of shitty hot takes? I know the answer is of course not, but still.

Always nice to see someone talk sense every now and again.

 

[DeepEnigma]

They aren't safety tested because it's too expensive to build a car and then crash it. These cars don't need to be on the road.

They're just as safe as any other car, and just as dangerous as any other car at high speeds.

People have crashed the new C8 Corvette at 100-140mph and walked away. Can't say the same in a Nissan Sentra or even most SUVs.

 

[Icymanipulator]

RIP

 

[Drew1440]

That's tragic to hear, another passionate developer gone. 2025 has not been a good year for gaming.

 

[Mister Wolf]

They aren't safety tested because it's too expensive to build a car and then crash it. These cars don't need to be on the road. Yes you can flip a car on a race track but with specialist barriers the risk is less. Anyone could have been coming in the other direction too.

Paul Walker and Diogo Jota both died of supercar accidents. These are too powerful for some people.

Maybe a special license to drive one on the street would help.

 

[kpopSuperstar]

Few women race like crazy, and the amount of men who do is way under 10%.

The amount of people who would willfully race those tunnels is probably under 0.5% of the population. And that is probably way to high of an estimate.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Few women race like crazy, and the amount of men who do is way under 10%.

The amount of people who would willfully race those tunnels is probably under 0.5% of the population. And that is probably way to high of an estimate.

People whom own these types of cars, aren't driving around Miss Daisy all the time either. They are playing with them when the opportunity arrises, and more often than you think.

My gif comment was mainly for myself, since I tend to be a hoon as well. Just not when commuting, that's just for goosing.

 

[kpopSuperstar]

I'm going off what that user considered speeding, which is the literal interpretation.

And I know his speeding was egregious. I take exception with a bunch of shitty hot takes being like, welp, serves ya right! That's what you get! He's dead for christs sake. Literally just happened. Can the internet not be empathetic for 24 hours before we pivot to a bunch of shitty hot takes? I know the answer is of course not, but still.

I agree, there are limits to what people should respond to something like this.

But if people drive drunk or speed for fun, and people die because of it, there will be reactions to it. What if you was a passenger in a car, and the driver drove like a madman and couldn't take the corner and crashed into the wall and you both died. Imagine what your family would feel, or in this case the family of the passenger in Vince's car.

Obviously, he didn't deserve this, and it's FUBAR for his family, and the "deserve it" takes are fucked up. But so are the "dude, don't pretend you never crossed the speed limit" takes as well. There is nuance to it, because his actions ended this other guys life as well.

 

[touchfuzzy]

Ah yes, if only there were more signs he surely would've driven safely. Come on, people.

 

[Physiognomonics]

Just seen the car crash on X. Awful way to die. Killed by some piece of concrete just on the right side of the road... That killed him.

 

[tomato shrub]

Why was this filmed by random ass gringos?

 

[DavidGzz]

RIP to one of the greats.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Why was this filmed by random ass gringos?

It's a famous car-spotting location in the enthusiast community. Just like people filming full sends leaving meets or cars & coffee.

 

[TexMex]

I agree, there are limits to what people should respond to something like this.

But if people drive drunk or speed for fun, and people die because of it, there will be reactions to it. What if you was a passenger in a car, and the driver drove like a madman and couldn't take the corner and crashed into the wall and you both died. Imagine what your family would feel, or in this case the family of the passenger in Vince's car.

Obviously, he didn't deserve this, and it's FUBAR for his family, and the "deserve it" takes are fucked up. But so are the "dude, don't pretend you never crossed the speed limit" takes as well. There is nuance to it, because his actions ended this other guys life as well.

I'd never excuse the behavior. I think it's just the timing that irritates the hell out of me. And no one here would have this feedback (especially hours after it happens) about someone they were close to. Wouldn't even cross their mind. People only say it because it's anonymous and it is easy.

He's dead, the week of Christmas. His whole family's lives are ruined and no one was hurt but himself. Can't we just let that breathe before finger wagging at him for being a naughty boy.

 

[Gp1]

cod4, mw2, titanfall 1+2, Jedi fallen order, apex legends, battlefield 6. Any kind of part this guy played you were getting a good product.

We shall never see his like again. And now his watch has ended.

Medal of Honor Allied Assault...

 

[DragonNCM]

This is literally how money can kill you......R.I.P

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

no one was hurt but himself.

....what?
The passenger died as well

 

[Zacfoldor]

RIP far too young.

In many ways a fellow traveler and a creator of our freely chosen and formerly frail life's joy. Hobby is far too coy a word for the love I feel. This man's death diminishes us all. He will not be forgotten.

 

[kpopSuperstar]

I'd never excuse the behavior. I think it's just the timing that irritates the hell out of me. And no one here would have this feedback (especially hours after it happens) about someone they were close to. Wouldn't even cross their mind. People only say it because it's anonymous and it is easy.

He's dead, the week of Christmas. His whole family's lives are ruined and no one was hurt but himself. Can't we just let that breathe before finger wagging at him for being a naughty boy.

The main reason people are reacting like this is because he also killed his passenger.

Imagine being related to this Zack guy and seeing that video everywhere. That family can't be very happy with Vince right now.

 

[Idleyes]

It's a famous car-spotting location in the enthusiast community. Just like people filming full sends leaving meets or cars & coffee.

Which is one of the reasons I don't understand the placement of that barrier. Even without anyone racing, a vehicle exiting the tunnel could easily encounter a vehicle approaching around that curb, drifting too far into the lane causing a driver to over respond & collide with the barrier. The lack of any apparent mitigation measures is insane. If the barrier had already been struck and the State/City/County (whichever) was in the process of replacing it, you'd expect some indication of that, such as construction cones and signage. Since there appears to be nothing like that on site, it gives the impression that the barrier was intentionally left that way.

Just as much as drivers are responsible for driving safely, the agency responsible for roadway design and safety has an obligation to identify hazardous areas and install appropriate barriers to mitigate foreseeable risks.

IMHO, despite his reckless driving, the family may have a case for negligence related to roadway safety design, given the barrier was impacted at its edge without adequate mitigation.

 

[EviLore]

Imagine being related to this Zack guy and seeing that video everywhere. That family can't be very happy with Vince right now.

He's dead. Give it a rest.

 

[Idleyes]

He's dead. Give it a rest.

Not to mention, none of us really know how the families feel. It's far more likely that both families are heartbroken rather than angry, given that the two appeared to have been friends.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Which is one of the reasons I don't understand the placement of that barrier. Even without anyone racing, a vehicle exiting the tunnel could easily encounter a vehicle approaching around that curb, drifting too far into the lane causing a driver to over respond & collide with the barrier. The lack of any apparent mitigation measures is insane. If the barrier had already been struck and the State/City/County (whichever) was in the process of replacing it, you'd expect some indication of that, such as construction cones and signage. Since there appears to be nothing like that on site, it gives the impression that the barrier was intentionally left that way.

Just as much as drivers are responsible for driving safely, the agency responsible for roadway design and safety has an obligation to identify hazardous areas and install appropriate barriers to mitigate foreseeable risks.

IMHO, despite his reckless driving, the family may have a case for negligence related to roadway safety design, given the barrier was impacted at its edge without adequate mitigation.

 

[saintjules]

Wow it was just stupid reckless driving.

That's what I was thinking too

 

[Madjaba]

Damn both of you are right.
Why can't we fuck with speed limit, go way over the regulation and then be safe at the end when hitting a wall ?

It's a tragedy and a great loss for the gaming community, it's even sadder that another life was lost and both families must be devastated.

But please stop with that kind of take, people needs to be reminded that driving safe is important and that you can lost your life at any second if you're doing something you shouldn't.

Again, it's sad, it must be so painful for both families, no needs to find culprits or to explain anything, he took a risk for a few seconds and paid the highest price for it.

It's a reminder that speed limits are there for something and that supercars are really hard to manage if anything wrong happens

Just be safe on the road that's all we can say.
And RIP to both men, may their families find peace asap.

 

[Idleyes]

Damn both of you are right.
Why can't we fuck with speed limit, go way over the regulation and then be safe at the end when hitting a wall ?

That's not what I said. If you're going to disagree with me, at least address my actual point. I explicitly acknowledged that he was driving recklessly. My position is that he already paid the ultimate price for that mistake, and treating him as though he deserves no empathy is unnecessary. Whatever his fault, he's already been punished for it.

My second point is separate and straightforward: the barrier itself appears to lack proper risk mitigation, and it's reasonable to question whether its design or placement contributed to how severe the outcome was.

 

[Idleyes]

If the speed limit on that road is 45 mph, then any driver striking that barrier on its edge like that at the posted speed could have been killed. Just sayin.

 

[Madjaba]

That's not what I said. If you're going to disagree with me, at least address my actual point. I explicitly acknowledged that he was driving recklessly. My position is that he already paid the ultimate price for that mistake, and treating him as though he deserves no empathy is unnecessary. Whatever his fault, he's already been punished for it.

My second point is separate and straightforward: the barrier itself appears to lack proper risk mitigation, and it's reasonable to question whether its design or placement contributed to how severe the outcome was.

I'm not talking about the first point, it's obvious that empathy is required here.

About the second point, the barrier is good enough if (big if) you're respecting the speed limit.
From what I've read this portion of the road is limited to 50 mph and the car seemed to be going twice the limit.

High speed created the situation not bad road management.
The barrier is made to put back cars at "low" pace on the road which is why the speed limit was what it was.

That's all, I agree with your first point so I won't be debating this anymore, everything's been said already.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Damn both of you are right.
Why can't we fuck with speed limit, go way over the regulation and then be safe at the end when hitting a wall ?

It's a tragedy and a great loss for the gaming community, it's even sadder that another life was lost and both families must be devastated.

But please stop with that kind of take, people needs to be reminded that driving safe is important and that you can lost your life at any second if you're doing something you shouldn't.

Again, it's sad, it must be so painful for both families, no needs to find culprits or to explain anything, he took a risk for a few seconds and paid the highest price for it.

It's a reminder that speed limits are there for something and that supercars are really hard to manage if anything wrong happens

Just be safe on the road that's all we can say.
And RIP to both men, may their families find peace asap.

Room temperature IQ. No other explanation on the inability to parse what has been said.

 

[TexMex]

....what?
The passenger died as well

The main reason people are reacting like this is because he also killed his passenger.

Imagine being related to this Zack guy and seeing that video everywhere. That family can't be very happy with Vince right now.

Freely admit I was not aware of that, but it also doesn't make me feel different about anything I said. In fact, it makes some of the takes even worse.

 

[PuppetMaster]

If that video is the real deal, what a stupid way to die. That a passenger was killed too makes it even worse.

RIP to them both

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

If the speed limit on that road is 45 mph, then any driver striking that barrier on its edge like that at the posted speed could have been killed. Just sayin.

If drivers are at risk hitting a barrier at the speed limit, then the speed limit is too high.

 

[Ashamam]

Amazing how many people in this thread have never broke the speed limit. Those speed awareness classes in the UK really putting in work.

There are reasons for that in young men, literally to do with how the brain develops etc, this guy wasn't young and should have known how to assess risk.

It's tragic stupid and avoidable all at the same time.

 

[TheThreadsThatBindUs]

The ferrari in this crash wasn't doing "ferrari speeds" either by which I guess you mean their theoretical top speed. A Corolla can do 90MPH+ and has a lot less downforce too. Same result if the person chooses to go at those dangerous speeds around this road.

Technically speaking, you're more likely to survive a crash in a Toyota Corrola doing the same 90mph speed than in a sports car like a Ferrari.

The former are built for safety and given that the driver and passengers sit behind the car's centre of mass, i.e. engine, there is more material in front of you to absorb the impact and slow the rapid deceleration.

Super cars like the Ferrari have the engine at the rear and being built for racetrack performance are specifically built to be as light as possible. So not only is the material in front of the driver and passengers equivalent to effectively tissue paper in a crash, you also have the engine sat behind you, whose momentum will slam into you crushing you against whatever it is you impact.

Also, downforce helps with cornering at speed (i.e. it increases traction on the tires). I don't think it helps you in a crash. If anything, the super-car's very low profile and increased downforce is more likely to wedge you underneath whatever you crash into. Hence why a number of crashes on highways involving these types of cars result in the whole roof being sheared off along with sometime the top half of the car's occupants.