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Violent standoff between Cops and Protesters in Baltimore

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Small issue in comparison, but holy cow that Baltimore Fox station is awful. Don't know who those anchors are but they are awful.
 
Amir0x said:
Man if I had a history class like that I would have been the world's most sarcastic student lol
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Mesoian said:
Literally everything about this post is bewildering.
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I was still too young at the time to really "get" politics (it took me until I was 20-21, I'd say) so it didn't bother me. But if I had her again now... oh boy lol. Funnily enough I ended up majoring in History in undergrad (along with accounting) and focused on 19th century US history so I still never really learned about the civil rights movement in an academic setting. Ah well.
 
Amir0x said:
Actually events like this have frequently been hugely instrumental in massive change that have altered history over the long term.

You don't have to like it, but revisionist history suits no one. This stuff works OFTEN.
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Indeed, without the threat/action of anarchy there would never be any change. It's a sad but necessary component for anything to happen when only talking doesn't work.
 
Rev Jamal Bryant mobilizing people to stop the kids before they hit downtown.

Family has denounced the violence. Bryant is focused on getting the kids of the street and starting fresh
 
CrimzonSamurai said:
Wow, you have no concept of how franchise businesses work, do you?

Insurance will ultimately cover it but still, can't imagine all the opiate pills going out to the street from the CVS are going to do much good for Baltimore.
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Finally an impoverished neighborhood has access to narcotics, now it's ruined. They were doing so well before it too :(
 
Amir0x said:
Actually events like this have frequently been hugely instrumental in massive change that have altered history over the long term.

You don't have to like it, but revisionist history suits no one. This stuff works OFTEN.
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it works short term. a sudden change can occur between policies but will this change the inner conviction of people towards people in the long term? no it will make it worse sometimes. this is why anarchy is never a solution long term even if it is a perceived solution short term
 
Suikoguy said:
Part of the problem is the overlap of Protestors and Looters is not 100%

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Both despicable groups of people though.
 
This chick on the Fox 10 Youtube stream is seriously dumb. I'm getting red just listening to her.

Actually you know what, the dude is an idiot too. They both need to stop talking about race like they're scholars and just focus on covering the news.
 
The Llama said:
I was still too young at the time to really "get" politics (it took me until I was 20-21, I'd say) so it didn't bother me. But if I had her again now... oh boy lol. Funnily enough I ended up majoring in History in undergrad (along with accounting) and focused on 19th century US history so I still never really learned about the civil rights movement in an academic setting. Ah well.
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Don't feel bad, if you have interest in the subject it's never too late to read up on it and see what's behind the veil. It's so much deeper than what you would have learned in school in all likelihood anyway, so you can start your knowledge base fresh faced and without bias.
 
girlfriendofagamer said:
CVS and 7-11 is a corporation, they'll be just fine
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Must be great for the people who can't go to work for the next week while their store is closed, or people who have prescriptions that they need to pick up at CVS and can't. They'll be fine though, who cares about some old person's medicine, or who cares about some person's 2nd or 3rd job... They work for a corporation after all, they don't matter.
 
Echoenigma said:
The sad truth is that once all other options are exhausted, if change is to be made eventually you have to start breaking shit and hurting people. Because that's all some will listen to.
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Until it's your shit that's getting wrecked.

No excuse for rioting ever. No excuse at all. Because then innocents are getting hurt.
 
DrForester said:
Fuck every single person there.

Hope that CVS was closed and there aren't any employees inside.
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I'd be more concerned about the local people who had their prescriptions there who have now lost their medication. Hope they get sorted with alternative sources quickly as that store probably won't be back to normal for a while.
 
Delicious Waffles said:
Absolutely nothing. That's my point.

If you want to protest, keep it peaceful and civil. Doing something like this in the name of change doesn't accomplish anything.
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If you think any of these people on TV right now give a fuck about the nigga that died, you're too dense to understand what is happening. Sorry.
 
I don't get what's so hard to understand about these situations. Americans have fought hard for their freedoms since its founding. Americans are fighting for them now. The difference is that fellow Americans are now fighting other Americans who won't even acknowledge them as equal. That's disgusting. America as a land of equality, as a land of peace, of opportunity is failing, has failed. When a person can't even live with the same basic opportunities or freedoms as another simply because of the color of their skin its time to wake up and realize that we can't use those words to describe America anymore. And yeah, I think the ability to keep your life and not be afraid of the very people your tax dollars are supposed to be paying to keep you safe is a mighty big example of why those words fail. Action requires action. I feel for the safety of everyone involved, but I see no problems fighting for what you rightly deserve. Don't worry about buildings and property. That shit is replaceable. Let's worry about people and let's defend those who unfortunately feel like they have to step out and fight to prove they were alive in the first place. The fact that anyone has to do that, ever, is shameful.
 
Volimar said:
Because if you care about property owners' livelihoods you don't care about people's lives? Reality isn't so binary.
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Thinking that he's referring to the fact that too few would consider it a tragedy if any of the looters were killed by shopkeepers or police trying to break up the riot.
 
CrimzonSamurai said:
Wow, you have no concept of how franchise businesses work, do you?

Insurance will ultimately cover it but still, can't imagine all the opiate pills going out to the street from the CVS are going to do much good for Baltimore.
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So the kids stole opiate pills automatically. How do you know that? Most of the pictures show food.

Are you kidding me haha, you think the majority kids were stealing drugs to sell off in the streets haha... Shows your bias.
 
Maninthemirror said:
it works short term. a sudden change can occur between policies but will this change the inner conviction of people towards people in the long term? no it will make it worse. this is why anarchy is never a solution long term.
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No, it works long term. Laws have been changed that have forever altered the course of history, leading to changes in attitudes toward people and massive changes in the lives of oppressed peoples. Countries have been toppled due to it, changing attitudes of people toward government.

This is such a wrong headed view of history that it's almost as if you're just responding with your emotional gut feeling rather than anything in reality. You don't have to like anarchy. You don't have to like these rioters. You have to however accept the reality of history, because these things already have happened countless times in the past and they've worked. In the long term too.
 
Ferrio said:
Finally an impoverished neighborhood has access to narcotics, now it's ruined. They were doing so well before it too :(
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What part of my post implied it was going to make things worse? Bmore already has one of the biggest heroine problems on the east coast. Just saying that's not helping.
 
DrForester said:
Both despicable groups of people though.
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Well, I can sympathize with one group but not the other.
Many peaceful protests later, nothing has changed.

As others have stated though, the results from such violent protests can go either way.
 
girlfriendofagamer said:
So the kids stole opiate pills automatically. How do you know that? Most of the pictures show food.

Are you kidding me haha, you think the majority kids were stealing drugs to sell off in the streets haha... Shows your bias.
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Lol not bias that's the first thing I'd go for if I was in there. If you're going to loot a pharmacy why wouldn't you take the opiate pills? Especially if you're in high school.
 
The Albatross said:
Must be great for the people who can't go to work for the next week while their store is closed, or people who have prescriptions that they need to pick up at CVS and can't. They'll be fine though, who cares about some old person's medicine, or who cares about some person's 2nd or 3rd job... They work for a corporation after all, they don't matter.
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Who cares about black people getting killed by police.

I do.

Its called collateral. Yeah, it sucks overall, I dont deny that. but I highly doubt you're surprised it has come to this. I'll care more about the people losing their medicine or an employee losing a couple days pay before I ever give a damn about some company.
 
girlfriendofagamer said:
So the kids stole opiate pills automatically. How do you know that? Most of the pictures show food.

Are you kidding me haha, you think the majority kids were stealing drugs to sell off in the streets haha... Shows your bias.
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That poster's "bias" is for the innocent store clerk and store manager who are now out of jobs, or the people who actually need to buy things at CVS day to day (perscriptions for instance). And yeah, I am biased against looters too. What of it?

I'm lucky, I know that if my CVS were violently shut down that I could easily get my prescriptions sent to another CVS or mailed to my house... But a lot of other people don't have that luxury or flexibility.

girlfriendofagamer said:
Who cares about black people getting killed by police.

I do.

Its called collateral. Yeah, it sucks overall, I dont deny that. but I highly doubt you're surprised it has come to this. I'll care more about the people losing their medicine or an employee losing a couple days pay before I ever give a damn about some company.
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I think it's ridiculous that you juxtapose looting a CVS versus black people being shot by police, as if one depends on the other... Like, the only way that we're going to get police to stop shooting black people is if we all collectively loot CVS.

For what it's worth, I also care about black people being killed by police. But, unlike you, I don't make the relationship between looting a CVS and social progress.
 
TheLaughingStock said:
If only black people behaved, then racists would stop killing and oppressing them!
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If you think this won't push the media portrayal of blacks further into a negative light and make people more racist, you are wrong.

People will point to this to justify their shitty world view, ignoring pretty much everything else.
 
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