Visiting friend's newborn & asked to get shots (Mods: Get your whooping cough shot)
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Ooh ouch, hurts so much what your opinion is
onadesertedisland
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Watch out we got an edgelord here.
Matrix XII
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I think it's unnecessary and they are asking too much. Most of my friends just had babies and no one asked any of our other friends to get shots.
Of course they are your friends and you want to respect their wishes. But I think it's a bit overkill.
Of course they are your friends and you want to respect their wishes. But I think it's a bit overkill.
AdventureRacing
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Your previous post is one of the dumbest I've ever read on GAF. There is a reason people are calling you and others in this thread ignorant.
Naw I just don't like you coming at me with your lack of understanding of influenza
onadesertedisland
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Before posting, read through the thread. That way you don't just chime in uninformed.
RumblingRosco
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You think getting vaccinated is overkill? Or expecting people to be vaccinated is overkill?
onadesertedisland
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Well, sincerely, I ask, you to share your understanding, so I can be better informed.
cartographer
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What's overkill about being a responsible adult and getting vaccinations you should be getting anyway?
superdeluxe
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Just because your friends don't follow medial advice, doesn't make it right.
Father_Brain
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My brother and sister-in-law asked me to get one when my niece was born. Totally normal.
ugaboga232
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Flu has animal reservoirs and the current vaccines don't get us up to the 95% ++ levels of immunity that we would need. Smallpox and polio didn't (to the best of my knowledge) which is why we could eradicate them for the most part.
It is necessary and recommended by the medical field so take our advice as you would like.
onadesertedisland
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I would wager the people posting these opinions that it is extreme are young people, with limited experiece dealing with sicknesses or disease. It's strange, but oddly similar to the "FUCK YOU, I GOT MINE" mindset, that is sort of "I AIN'T SICK, SO FUCK YOU"
Beer Monkey
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My boss thinks climate change is fake and my aunt thinks GMOs are killing is.
Please explain why anybody should take what you think over what the Centers for Disease Control says?
LegendofJoe
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That was me, not him. And it slipped my mind that influenza is carried and transmittable from other animals. So yeah there are too many variables in play for vaccinations to eradicate it, but nonetheless herd defenses against can still be made a lot stronger through immunizations.
You think wrong
onadesertedisland
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Regardless, being up to date on your immunizations is a fucking good thing. It helps you. And, without you doing anything else, helps you be less of a selfish asshole, by protecting others. So win win. Get your shots people.
Man Called Aerodynamics
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It's a great idea to have your shots up to date anyway, especially if you're going to be spending time around vulnerable populations (newborns, elderly).
That said, I personally would not bar someone from my home because they hadn't had a flu shot. That strikes me as taking things a little too far. But like you said, their house their rules.
That said, I personally would not bar someone from my home because they hadn't had a flu shot. That strikes me as taking things a little too far. But like you said, their house their rules.
Today I learned that some people would rather risk getting horribly ill than go through the tiny inconvenience of getting a shot.
Boy, I wish I could get the flu without fear of death. Then I could defiantly ignore the facts about immunization and talk about how strong and powerful a dude I am.
Vaccinations are just for the weak yo.
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I know we're 6 pages into this already and the OP mostly has his answer, but I'd like to be another person that comments that this is totally normal. Our doctor told us pre-birth that anyone who was going to be around the baby for an extended time should have a TDAP and flu shot, so we made the same requests to close friends and family. When they're that young, the flu and whooping cough can be deadly and no sane person is going to take any chances with their newborn's life.
ElectricBlanketFire
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The OP thanked everyone for the information and learned something.
Meanwhile, others are learning nothing.
This isn't that weird. I don't think our baby saw more than 6 people besides us until he was 3 months old.
One of the major reasons infant mortality has gone way down in the last 100 years is due to vaccinations. Babies don't make their own effective antibodies until ~3-6 months of life and until then rely on what they received from maternal blood in uterine and via breast milk. So while those antibodies offer some superficial protection to infants, if they get a full bore raging viral infection, they simply can't effectively fight it off. It's pretty easy to become complacent to vaccinations these days as we have this misplaced sense of safety that if we get sick, modern medicine will save us. The truth is that really young infants can easily die from the flu or pertussis and it's just foolish to take the one easy, cheap step to prevent infection.
That's cool if people have friends that didn't ask them to get vaccinations to see their baby. 99/100 nothing is going to happen but for a $20 flu shot, I'm definitely going to ask people to get vaccinated. Plus, you all should be getting a Td booster every 10 years anyway.
That's cool if people have friends that didn't ask them to get vaccinations to see their baby. 99/100 nothing is going to happen but for a $20 flu shot, I'm definitely going to ask people to get vaccinated. Plus, you all should be getting a Td booster every 10 years anyway.
Yeah, I saw that, but couldn't help but add. I think a lot of Neo GAF posters are young and don't have experience with this, so the more people sayings it's normal, the better. If nothing else, maybe they can be peer pressured into being responsible?
Portugeezer
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Normal people don't do this and they turned out just fienbfjjddhbdhda AFC s GH h
Fantastapotamus
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Oh yes, meanwhile you proved your expertise on this subject with your "I held some babies and none of them died, ergo this is hogwash" post.
Frozenprince
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A child can die from influenza or percussis, this isn't assumption this is fact. This is hard medical fact. This is to make sure that their infant child minimizes the risk of sickness leading to death.
What the ever loving hell.
ugaboga232
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Well you have now and its what the CDC and medical field say. We have simulated patient encounters for this very issue. It is a very real problem that shouldn't be.
ElectricBlanketFire
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Consult a doctor, read information.
Gravy Boat
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I don't think it's a common request but it's a sensible one. Certainly not something that should cause offence or make any decent person reconsider their visit.
ShironRedshift
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Nothing crazy about wanting to make sure one's baby is protected from pertussis/whooping cough, especially since there have been an uptick in cases due to anti-vaccine fuckwits. That shit is fucking fatal to babies and ain't worth the risk. Nothing about this is crazy or unreasonable in the least.
Gravy Boat
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I think that's pretty weird. We couldn't keep family and friends away during the first few months. People we hadn't seen in years were coming to visit us.
Plus we had to take our daughter outside because of life and stuff. Only exposing your child to 8 or so people in 3 months seems impossible honestly unless they're in the hospital for an extended period of time.
The hospital tells parents to make this request of anyone who will be around the child. I never knew until I had kids.
Calamari41
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"We all survived" lead paint and asbestos, so tell me again why I have to pay to remove it from my house?
With my daughter, my first kid mind you, I was paranoid and terrified of everything. I MADE everyone in my intimidate family get their shots. Then I asked my friends to make sure if they were up to date but I wasn't as firm about it with them.
Bottom line is you should be up to date on those shots anyway so just do it. Ironically my dad who never gets those shots got them but decided against getting his flu shot that year and ended up wrecked by the flu.
Bottom line is you should be up to date on those shots anyway so just do it. Ironically my dad who never gets those shots got them but decided against getting his flu shot that year and ended up wrecked by the flu.
Influenza is an RNA virus that when they replicate genetic coding errors occur. This is what makes them extremely hard to have a good vaccine to cover and stop them.
The flu shot is trying to immunize the strain that the WHO has predicted to be the dominant strain that year. While they do their best to make the proper predictions, it won't account for a strain that was overlooked (or was thought was not going to be the major strain that year).
Also, since it takes about two weeks for antibodies to be formed in the body, you can still get sick from the strain it's meant to stop if you are already carrying it and just have not developed symptoms. This is also the reason that if you tell someone to get a flu shot before seeing your kid, and they do it the day before, it won't help. So I hope you told people to get the flu shot two weeks or more before they see your kid.
You should be getting shots, and people should be giving kids their shots, cause polio and smallpox aren't fun to have.
Calamari41
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Doctors definitely tell you to have people get their shots at least two weeks before the due date, yes. If people don't pass that on, its on them for forgetting that part.
At least where I am, this is a presentation that is pushed on you at each OB visit leading up to the birth.
JimtotheHum
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Since when did not getting flu shots around a newborn become anti-vaxxer? Seems like a leap to me. Most people don't do this.
Probably meant to post intimate family but combined with the MADE this works as well.
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