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Visual Novels Community Thread | A Little Something for Everyone
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KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
Maybe around 90 hours if you get all the endings. Or maybe a little less depending on if 999 goes faster in the new version.
Although really, don't play Zero Time Dilemma. For your own good.
Funyarinpa
Member
20 hours each for 999 and ZTD, 30-35 for VLR.
Optimally 50 total, if you act like ZTD does not exist (for your own sake).
BTW, MangaGamer released project updates on Twitter. Fata Morgana fandisk is at 44% TL now, and there's progress on their secret projects (one of them is 100% translated *and* edited, I hope it's Meakashi- I need my Higurashi fix). Maggot Baits at 13%, Princess Evangile fandisk at 70%, IIRC.
Basileus777
Member
Some interesting tidbits from Kotaku's article on PQube
MangaGamer seems to still be deciding whether or not they will release the rest of Higurashi piecemeal or not.
Only the original Steins;Gate? I wonder how 0 did.
Everyone turned down the Steins;Gate console releases when the localization work was already done? Or did people just not want to work with 5pb?
MangaGamer seems to still be deciding whether or not they will release the rest of Higurashi piecemeal or not.
is it really that bad?
and wouldn't it feel weird to stop playing a trilogy after two games?
999 works just fine as a standalone game, just play that, VLR is not really good (but I already didn't find 999 as great as most people so eh)
Funyarinpa
Member
No word since August, for fuck's sake. Come the fuck on, MG.
It's like finding out your best friend from childhood first veered off towards fascist ideology and then ended up shot during a drug trade gone wrong.
Exaggerating, of course, but ZTD made Zero Escape go from my favorite story in any medium over which I obsessed for 3 of my formative teenage years to a series that I barely care about, be it characters or story. Maybe you won't feel so bad since you didn't clamor for ZTD to be made everyday for over 2 years (ZTD was put on hiatus at one point), but VLR's ending was the highest point of my whole gaming life and ZTD is nothing if not an insult to VLR in its entirety.
Feels weird to stop, probably, but it also likely feels worse to see that all of it didn't really amount to anything remotely interesting or good in the end (not a spoiler, I just mean that ZTD doesn't live up to the rest in any way). Best way to experience ZE now is probably taking 999 as fully canon, VLR as a what-if scenario, and ZTD as full proof as to why I recommend you take a game as well-written as VLR as a mere what-if scenario.
Basileus777
Member
ZTD has a terrible last 3rd, but I think you should still see it. Stopping at VLR isn't satisfying either. If you're going that route you might as well only play 999.
I enjoyed my time with ZTD, especially the first half. There's one aspect I can think of that retroactively harmed 999 and VLR for me (
) but it's so far gone into fanfiction levels that it's easier to ignore, aside from that I'm happy with it and the whole trilogy. It was really short anyway.
I admit that I wouldn't have enjoyed it as much if I played it immediately after VLR. Forgetting almost everything made it a lot easier to forgive certain things.
Junpei and Akane's characters
I admit that I wouldn't have enjoyed it as much if I played it immediately after VLR. Forgetting almost everything made it a lot easier to forgive certain things.
Dandy Crocodile
Member
999 - 9
VLR - 8.5
ZTD - 5
Worth seeing, just don't have super high expectations.
VLR - 8.5
ZTD - 5
Worth seeing, just don't have super high expectations.
I don't believe there is.
I do remember when going through the original forever ago though that there is one single CG that's rather hard to get, if you want to go for 100% completion anyway. You need to start Unlimited with Ayamine's route being the last one you cleared in Extra and you'll get a bonus scene pretty early on that foreshadows some events in Alternative and gives you a CG you can't get otherwise.
I thought ZTD was good, despite falling off towards the end. Fun puzzles, some real tension and mystery, and the good ol' Zero Escape plot twists and
.
I actually prefer to consider Zero Escape as three separate games, rather than as a trilogy. The games aren't really about the characters or background lore, which are the only things linking them together - they're about the puzzles and crazy plot twists.
Clover in 999 is in my mind a distinct character from Clover in VLR, and the same for Akane/Junpei in 999/ZTD and Sigma/Phi in VLR/ZTD. VLR and ZTD feel like unconnected games that happen to use your knowledge of 999/VLR respectively as plot points, rather than feeling like true sequels, and I'm fine with that.
incomprehensible villain motivations
I actually prefer to consider Zero Escape as three separate games, rather than as a trilogy. The games aren't really about the characters or background lore, which are the only things linking them together - they're about the puzzles and crazy plot twists.
Clover in 999 is in my mind a distinct character from Clover in VLR, and the same for Akane/Junpei in 999/ZTD and Sigma/Phi in VLR/ZTD. VLR and ZTD feel like unconnected games that happen to use your knowledge of 999/VLR respectively as plot points, rather than feeling like true sequels, and I'm fine with that.
KLoWn
Member
Hm ok. I might try and get that rare one.
Is there going to be any important information in the different routes, or can I just skip past all of it to get to the endings quicker?
In Extra: Sumika's and Meiya's routes are essentially the same, you can even run into a situation where you can choose either of them at the end. Miki, Chizuru, and Ayamine all branch off into different things during and after the lacrosse arc. The Miki/Chizuru/Ayamine routes are all "side" routes that are much less important than the main route (Sumika/Meiya), although you do get some insight into the characters from those routes that can help you understand them better in Unlimited/Alternative. Ayamine's route has a character in it that doesn't show up in Unlimited but is in Alternative.
In Unlimited: There's essentially only a single route throughout the entire game, however there are minor differences depending on which heroines you've set certain flags with (who you've given the Game Guy to, for example), whether you've cleared a particular route or not in Extra, which route you've most recently cleared in Extra, and how you answer particular questions. All of that aside though Unlimited will always end with a list of heroines to choose from for the ending, which is determined by which of them have passed a point threshold. They also all pretty much play out the same way, outside of Yuuko's ending which ends the game a little bit early and drops a little bit of additional info on you.
KLoWn
Member
This is great! Thanks for the info!
Translation Status Update February 12 from /r/visualnovels
Originally from /jp/ on 4chan
Fuwanovel version
Originally from /jp/ on 4chan
Fuwanovel version
Basileus777
Member
Part 4 released in October.
They aren't technically being retranslated so they don't show up in their translation updates. This is new for Higurashi, but it's always how they've handled Umineko.
Steins;Gate is super worth it. The Steam releases of Higurashi and Umineko are currently incomplete - only the 'question arc' of each has been released; the 'answer arcs' will come at some point. They're good, but be aware that you'll have to wait a bit longer for the complete story.
Otherwise, I liked Root Double and Gahkthun of the Golden Lightning, though they're quite expensive so you might want to wait for a sale. There's a bunch of older stuff like CLANNAD, Devil on the G-String etc as well that I haven't delved into.
World End Economica, Clannad and the Grisaia trilogy.
What constitutes the Grisaia trilogy? I'm finding The Fruit, The Leisure, The Melody, The Afterglow and the Labyrinth of Grisaia searching steam
Basileus777
Member
Fruit, Labyrinth, and the unreleased Eden. The others are short bonus stories.
Nice, thanks, I'll look into those
some other noteworthy ones:
muv luv(soon,I wouldn't recommend playing it before the third one is out)
zero escape series(soon)
planetarian
So I noticed that VN dev/publisher VisualArts/Key is having a big Steam sale this week with most titles 50% or more off.
In the list is CLANNAD at -60% ($19.99 / reg. $49.99). Now that's a pretty sizable discount, esp. in a genre that doesn't seem to have many sales events.
So Clannad has been on my Wishlist, but here's the deal. Both House in Fata Morgana and Danganronpa 1 and 2 are higher on my Wishlist. See I'm a VN noob who's only played Steins; Gate (still working on it and LOVE the game).
But I hear all this stuff about Clannad being the big Granddaddy of VN's. The Led Zep IV of the genre if you will. Essential material.
So should I go for it? The price is really enticing. I likely won't be playing it right away, but man $20 sounds so much better than $50.
What do you guys think?
Also, as a side note, what's the deal with CLANNAD Side Stories. That's 60% off as well ($7.99).
Thanks for any guidance!
So I noticed that VN dev/publisher VisualArts/Key is having a big Steam sale this week with most titles 50% or more off.
In the list is CLANNAD at -60% ($19.99 / reg. $49.99). Now that's a pretty sizable discount, esp. in a genre that doesn't seem to have many sales events.
So Clannad has been on my Wishlist, but here's the deal. Both House in Fata Morgana and Danganronpa 1 and 2 are higher on my Wishlist. See I'm a VN noob who's only played Steins; Gate (still working on it and LOVE the game).
But I hear all this stuff about Clannad being the big Granddaddy of VN's. The Led Zep IV of the genre if you will. Essential material.
So should I go for it? The price is really enticing. I likely won't be playing it right away, but man $20 sounds so much better than $50.
What do you guys think?
Also, as a side note, what's the deal with CLANNAD Side Stories. That's 60% off as well ($7.99).
Thanks for any guidance!
Why not? Go for it, life is short.
Dandy Crocodile
Member
Buy it. Clannad is fantastic even if it suffers from the whole "Seinfeld isn't funny" trope because it did so much so well and paved the way forward for a number of tearjerker romance VNs.
So I noticed that VN dev/publisher VisualArts/Key is having a big Steam sale this week with most titles 50% or more off.
In the list is CLANNAD at -60% ($19.99 / reg. $49.99). Now that's a pretty sizable discount, esp. in a genre that doesn't seem to have many sales events.
So Clannad has been on my Wishlist, but here's the deal. Both House in Fata Morgana and Danganronpa 1 and 2 are higher on my Wishlist. See I'm a VN noob who's only played Steins; Gate (still working on it and LOVE the game).
But I hear all this stuff about Clannad being the big Granddaddy of VN's. The Led Zep IV of the genre if you will. Essential material.
So should I go for it? The price is really enticing. I likely won't be playing it right away, but man $20 sounds so much better than $50.
What do you guys think?
Also, as a side note, what's the deal with CLANNAD Side Stories. That's 60% off as well ($7.99).
Thanks for any guidance!
I voted for WA2.
I was one of those who voted for *any* August title so it makes me happy to see one on the list. Shame Aokana is low on the list, but then again, I don't exactly remember where it was that I read it that supposedly Sprite isn't so hot on licensing their properties to the west.
Can't wait to see what we get this year.
Speaking of getting stuff, I finally reached the True Route of Da Capo III and my first impressions after reading it for a while are: "I want for at least a fandisc (With you, preferably) to make it to this side of the globe, damnit." I'm also getting the feeling that this is going to be one of those VNs where I get somewhat sad after finishing it. Since it was so long, I got attached to the characters, but especially and unsurprisingly, Sakura.
Has anyone in here heard of/played a game called Island (アイランド
by Frontwing/ Prototype?
The game was released on PC in 2016 and its coming to Vita in Japan in a couple of days.
I just found out about it and the trailers and website are giving me Never7 vibes, a game I really liked. Anyone know if Island is any good?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J3XNXE7Zks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxGUHWcf5To
vndb
by Frontwing/ Prototype? The game was released on PC in 2016 and its coming to Vita in Japan in a couple of days.
I just found out about it and the trailers and website are giving me Never7 vibes, a game I really liked. Anyone know if Island is any good?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J3XNXE7Zks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxGUHWcf5To
vndb
Basileus777
Member
Has anyone in here heard of/played a game called Island (アイランド
The game was released on PC in 2016 and its coming to Vita in Japan in a couple of days.
I just found out about it and the trailers and website are giving me Never7 vibes, a game I really liked. Anyone know if Island is any good?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J3XNXE7Zks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxGUHWcf5To
vndb
It was well received. It's from the same writer as Himawari.
Frontwing is planning to localize it too.
I hope they localize the Vita version as well.
Thank you, that sounds really promising. Will keep an eye on the game then.
fingers crossed
Basileus777
Member
IIRC they said they were going to do crowdfunding to fund hard copies, maybe they could have a Vita stretch goal there.
grim-tales
Member
I'm enjoying some of ZTD so far (not finished it). The puzzles are really good, but
the fact the game seems to consist of "do puzzle/make choice/go back and do opposite of said choice" - well.. it removes all the tension and dread for me that 999 and even VLR had. There's no sense of urgency for me at the point I'm at (somewhere with Q/C team).
Funyarinpa
Member
Same but seeing how Grisaia fared with its Vita goal, I doubt we would get it anytime soon
Basileus777
Member
Why would you use Grisaia as the example when it's from a different publisher when we have Sharin No Kuni to look at from Frontwing?
Funyarinpa
Member
Ooh, is Frontwing publishing that by themselves? I know little about Frontwing's work so I guess I didn't realize. Whoops.
Basileus777
Member
Yeah, Frontwing has gotten into the publishing business, even for 3rd party titles. Sekai Project is still handling the original three Grisaia games because they hold the rights though.
Completed my (longer than planned) journey in R11.
The whole idea is amazing, one of the best I ever read.
The pacing is probably the best ever, although sometimes it could even be too fast, without a moment to stop and think, something really peculiar for this media.
On the other hand, I found myself not being attached to any of the pg and caring for their lives, the same happened in E17 until their endings, so I guess it's just that the narration doesn't give them much emotion.
The open ending (I read all TIPS and a lot of discussions on the internet btw)...is charming but sad, it feels like the Xenogears of VNs, its potential is not maximized.
The structure is fascinating but also too complex for a 100% run, full of gore bad ends which add nothing to the story itself; I already got the three main bad ends to understand some more of the story and I'll leave at that.
Overall it fell a bit shorter than my most loved VNs but way higher than my average VN so I'm fine. It also made me rethink to the ZE series and how even the amazing first duo logy feels shallower than the Infinity Series, relying a lot on specific twists but without the complex interconnections Naka+Uchi were able to reach in this project. Maybe I'll find more of this in Nakazawa's VNs? Root and I/O are probably not 2017 material for me but I'm looking forward to find out the other branch born from Infinity.
The whole idea is amazing, one of the best I ever read.
The pacing is probably the best ever, although sometimes it could even be too fast, without a moment to stop and think, something really peculiar for this media.
On the other hand, I found myself not being attached to any of the pg and caring for their lives, the same happened in E17 until their endings, so I guess it's just that the narration doesn't give them much emotion.
The open ending (I read all TIPS and a lot of discussions on the internet btw)...is charming but sad, it feels like the Xenogears of VNs, its potential is not maximized.
The structure is fascinating but also too complex for a 100% run, full of gore bad ends which add nothing to the story itself; I already got the three main bad ends to understand some more of the story and I'll leave at that.
Overall it fell a bit shorter than my most loved VNs but way higher than my average VN so I'm fine. It also made me rethink to the ZE series and how even the amazing first duo logy feels shallower than the Infinity Series, relying a lot on specific twists but without the complex interconnections Naka+Uchi were able to reach in this project. Maybe I'll find more of this in Nakazawa's VNs? Root and I/O are probably not 2017 material for me but I'm looking forward to find out the other branch born from Infinity.
Kresnik258
Member
Omg, you've gotten my hopes up now! I noticed Island a few days ago when it got reviewed by Famitsu and thought it looked pretty neat. Would definitely be down for Vita version!
Funyarinpa
Member
Remember11, were it correctly executed (especially
the ending not being cathartic at all (which is up for debate, being blueballed might be the entire point, see explainremember11.com) and more concretely the lack of meaningful bad endings (the sheer number of gory deaths is fine due to the dire circumstances of both settings)
I found that while R11 exceeded 999 and VLR (which I still hold in higher regard, due to how much I love ZE's twists) in exquisite detail, E17 didn't. Root Double feels like it tried to capture R11's complexity but ended up being more of a sci-fi drama (that I didn't connect with all that much), while for I/O let's just say that you won't need an English patch for it since you'd probably understand as much in Japanese as you understand in English after a point.
Funyarinpa
Member
Not that it has routes, but The House In Fata Morgana features (and immensely develops) a balanced and exquisite cast of characters. Non-romantic focus, though.
Basileus777
Member
Little Busters does something similar with male side routes, but I'm not sure I'd recommend the game.
And about Higurashi part 5.