panama chief
Member
HAHAHAH like sony is giving us "nice things".....
Vita "hacked," (PSP) homebrew on the way (not piracy)
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HAHAHAH like sony is giving us "nice things".....
Foliorum Viridum
Banned
Well as someone who doesn't own a Vita it's mainly because it seems like there isn't support there already. Hackers can't drive away what isn't there!
And yeah, nobody would pay that much for an emulation device, which is why I said the sooner the thing dies and the prices tumble is the time when I'll look in to getting one for those purposes.
metalslimer
Member
No it didnt which is why psp had great japanese support
PSP didn't really die. ^_^
It's making $$$ for Sony as we speak.
After playing a few PSP games, I think it does have compelling games.
Didn't you need a copy of gta lcs ?
lowrider007
Licorice-flavoured booze?
Then why have devs said that people in the industry got scared off the PSP due to the mass piracy?
test_account
XP-39C²
I ment using Content Manager to transfer the files to the Vita. Is that handled different when you take a backup of a PSP game?
The hack wouldnt be possible without the device (in this case, the Vita) in the first place
I'm not fluent in Japanese, so I'd be buying another piece of hardware for 5-10 games at max. I already own a western 3DS, and rarely use it so buying another one really isn't something I can see myself doing.
Console iterations are the best sellers on PSP, and even some of the top selling 3DS games though, haha. In terms of Sony's marketing, that's obviously at fault to a degree. For Vita in particular, the US launch campaign was awful. Dudes walking around streets playing generic looking games running at 5fps ...
Good bye third parties that were thinking of coming aboard.
And to those trying to pretend with a straight face that this is not giving every game pirate out there a hard on , not really sure even what to say.
There are legal tools for software creation, so that excuse does not fly.
And to those trying to pretend with a straight face that this is not giving every game pirate out there a hard on , not really sure even what to say.
There are legal tools for software creation, so that excuse does not fly.
Companies say lots of shit that isn't true. Used games being super evil, Ubisoft saying their PC editions of games are pirated by 90%+ of users who play them..it's always scapegoat tactics to put blame in something out of the companies hands. Don't be naive to believe what any company says entirely, especially when they're playing blame games.
Even if that's true, devs blame piracy for everything. It's like their own personal boogeyman.
Damon Bennet
Member
maybe vita will now be this:
Yeah right? It's not like the Vita just added a fuck awesome Remote Play feature, started production on Tearaway, and is launching LBP Vita this month. Some of you people just want to watch the world burn. :-/
I was just mocking Nintendo's stupid region lock. And maybe some insane fans that have given that advice to people that want to import games.
Gemüsepizza
Member
Is this his real name? I hope Sony's laywers bomb him into the stone age.
How can you kill something that is already dead?
To my knowledge, the current PSP exploit on Vita cannot be run by a regular user because the PSP app can't be transferred over. It needs to be in bubble format, or I supposed some sort of backup format. There is no real threat there although the hackers continue to work on it to discover other holes.
I heard PS Mobile (beta) bypasses the CM checks by having the user/developer download the binaries via a URL. Perhaps this is the way to go. It will allow them to run a user-mode application with limited/standard I/O access. Then again, so can PS Mobile. A native app should run faster though.
Shining Sunshine
Banned
Looks like a bunch of claims with no grounds to me.
We'll see. I bet Sony will put "homebrew" via PS Mobile before "hackers" will.
We'll see. I bet Sony will put "homebrew" via PS Mobile before "hackers" will.
gutterboy44
Member
Fuck, this is going to delay the release of Wake-Up Club in the US isn't it?
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
As it stands right now, this is what it seems like to me as well.
OldJadedGamer
Banned
CFW made the PSP a better machine.
Leona Lewis
Banned
Yep, if only for the ability to enable the 333mHz.
Gemüsepizza
Member
...and third party devs stopped their support. Really great how that turned out!
So, never?
Technosteve
Banned
can it homebrew iOS games?
fluffydelusions
Member
Sooo does this mean Sony will sue and PSN will be hacked again? =\
Reluctant-Hero
Member
When I say that "hacks killed PSP in the west", I'm speaking from my specific point of view abd not in a broad generalization. Yes, the lack of software the appeals to the mainstream Western audience certainly didn't help the PSP sales wise. But the rampant amount of piracy did not encourage Western developers and publishers to bring quality titles outside of Japan.
I really enjoy the Vita and see I all the potential it has. Homebrew, and piracy that is sure to follow, will not help the platform at all.
Yes, at the expense of enabling piracy.
On Vita, hopefully Sony can make find a better middleground. Some of the homebrew folks have great ideas. Make them port their apps over to PS Mobile. Or outright steal their ideas and built them into the OS.
PSP's main problem is: Sony neglected it and let the homebrew folks move in. As long as Sony is on top of Vita, the engagement with these hackers should be a good thing overall -- as long as they don't gain kernel level access.
A Human Becoming
More than a Member
It wasn't dead, it was undead.
If I were to guess it is somehow started with something to do with a ps1 transfer or a ps1 title.
Damon Bennet
Member
people deluding them into believing a ps2 emu would be possible..
i am even sceptical if dreamcast could work. maybe some simpler games, chu chu rocket et al, but the likes of shenmue? hm.
I would like to be suprised though, a portable dreamcast machine is my dream video-game machine
True, but that hole for the PSP caved in for the West when for the entire lifespan of the system, all we had were console iterations. It seemed to work fine early on the systems lifespan, but when you had Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep, Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker, and God of War: Ghosts of Sparta all be the worst selling games of their franchises and absolutely tanking, I think it has to do with the fact that the types of experiences the PSP were offering for a handheld got uninteresting to the larger population. Think about it, a God of War game selling poorly in the West. It gets to the point I tend to hammer at Sony's handhelds: how many people who are fans of a console series willing to plop out money for a portable device for a game that simply can't live up to the expectations of its console brethren? For us at GAF, we can. But for the mainstream consumer, they couldn't care less about missing out on an "inferior" iteration. The wow factor of the PSP's console-like titles, at least to me, faded after the Grand Theft Auto: _____ City Stories games and Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops. Perhaps it was after that the entire balloon popped, as I don't recall any other big console game doing spectacularly on PSP outside of Japan, even considering fan hype.
Actually, I would love the opposite. Someone enable PS Mobile on iOS !
MrCunningham
Member
Actually, this is the killer app Sony needed to push units in the western market. Expect software sales to take a nosedive though (as if they already weren't bad enough).
test_account
XP-39C²
It works fine on Vita too actually. Just search for VHBL Vita on Youtube and you find many examples. And you use the Content Manager to transfer these files over.
This was enabled in OFW too.
Gemüsepizza
Member
Brilliant idea. Now please guess how companies like Sony earn money:
a) With hardware.
b) With software.
Same here.
It'd be only used for one game. I can understand the want for this, but the Vita has many more options compared to the 3DS in terms of homebrew and emulators.
I doubt many people care much about 3D effects when it comes to homebrew, especially the style the 3DS uses. Region lock is a good reason, however the effort it would warrant is most likely not worth it right now. People will eventually do it, but as I said before the Vita has many more options compared to the 3DS.
Impeccable
Member
Everyone will get their 'homebrew' and people like me will end up with a device with less support.
:-(
:-(
CFW can force every game to run in 333MHz.
zephervack
Member
You'd think they would use the PS3 security in the Vita, but I guess they didnt, it took ages for the PS3 to get hacked.
Once the exploit is shared, Sony will lock it via a new useless firmware with the force of a thousand suns.
Once the exploit is shared, Sony will lock it via a new useless firmware with the force of a thousand suns.
phosphor112
Banned
Awesome, but not awesome.
This will do wonders for their hardware, but that's not where they make the money...
This'll hurt the already abysmally low software sales.
This will do wonders for their hardware, but that's not where they make the money...
This'll hurt the already abysmally low software sales.