McMoneyman
Member
Nintendo please stop.
Voice chat on the Switch will consist of a paid app on "smart" devices (your phone)
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Nintendo please stop.
So..... Whats going on?
This thread may be premature. Perhaps the app just allows you to easily organize and view information and is a option for people who dont want to buy headsets.
SmackAttack
Member
Really, Nintendo? REALLY?
What the fuck?
Vita can party chat just fine on the "go". How the hell will game audio and chat go through your phone? And phone quality headphones won't be as good as gaming ones or a high end one. the fuck Nintendo
ScientificPizza
Banned
Reggie is the size of six dudes sewn together, I bet it would be hard af to find a good fitting suit
And_Gignac
Member
What a fucking disaster omg.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
lmao
Why would Reggie be "finding" clothes lol. Reggie is rich enough to afford a custom-tailored suit for PR photos.
Baroquemantic
Member
Wait. This makes me think there will be no way to hear game audio and chat audio simultaneously when using headphones/a headset?
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
Yes, in that case you are SOL. It would be great if Nintendo offered an option. However, this is the direction in which XBL is moving, and I am confident Sony will follow too, eventually chatting from your console will be the least popular options and the least supported.
You can chat to 7 friends who are all in game of MKart using your phone? I'm not defending this nonsense just offering an example.
My mate already talks to us while he plays games on his mobile with Discord...and its free.
Audioboxer
Member
Whatever the merits of a mobile application it should be in addition to a console OS wide solution. Like how PSN does it, and it's party chat is free to non subscribers...
orthodoxy1095
Banned
So, real question: if I'm using voice chat on my phone, is the console going to be transmitting audio to my phone as well? Or am I now stuck between listening to my friends blabber or listening to the in-game audio? Because that's a joke choice.
ForsakenLotus
Member
I think you are giving Nintendo way, way too much leeway and not taking into account the obvious negatives. Even if it were free I think it's incredibly obtuse. But I'm curious:
What are the benefits that you think this app can or will have that outweigh native chat support plus the ubiquitous and free Discord?
The best I can come up with is a Nintendo version of Twitch, but that's giving them way too much credit and still wouldn't substitute just being able to plug a headset up to a console and talk to friends or the lobby of the game you are currently in.
Mass Appeal
Member
That is not the direction MS is moving....at all. Idk where you're getting thay from just because they offer you the option send messages through smartglass. I have over a 100 friends on xbox live and 50 or so on psn and most of us still use party chat on the console. SONY has the same option to send messages through their app but it's an option, not mandatory.
I chat through discord for DestinyGAF when we want to set up activites but once we do, we all just go through the party chat option on the console because it's just easier and convenient.
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
Right now I voice chat with my friends through Discord which isn't aware of the game, and I never have audio problems. If the app was aware of the game, things could only improve. I don't see how they could strive to make something worse when the default is already good.
SapphiCine
Member
I don't even care about voice chat but this is too asinine even for Nintendo.
ScientificPizza
Banned
Yeah, that's a good point. I can't imagine that the app would incorporate in-game audio
joecanada
Member
What baffles me about Nintendo is them just refusing to use anyone elses shit and thinking they can sell Nintendo stuff no matter what.
Like in the situation they are currently in how hard would it be to say " we have an unprecedented partnership with discord for chat services"
But no here comes more proprietary bs noone asked for.
Here's a prediction for you ... This Nintendo app will be flooded with one star ratings. And noone will chat on switch games
you could always put it on speaker phone. now you're free and as an added bonus your friends get to hear slightly delayed audio of the game they're playing through a tin can.
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
https://www.onmsft.com/news/microsoft-launches-official-xbox-server-discord
I am making an educated guess but perhaps Microsoft will soon allow you to voice chat through Smartglass.
Because they make real games and actually think of the children.
This is actually something a real person said while trying to defend this
IDontBeatGames
Member
I don't understand this, why do they care what headphones we use. Regardless of what app or party chat, I'm still going to use my "bulky" headset, any above average gamer will too. It makes zero sense to use that as an argument, don't tell me what to or not to use. That's not only out of touch, but makes zero sense to me.
I'm going to use "my bulky headset" to get the top quality that I can afford so I can enjoy my games online with my friends. Nintendo, it's none of your business as to what headphones I use because you know what? I don't use small cheap headphones w/ a microphone attached. Sorry, not happening. I hope there's a big enough backlash for them to revert this.
[EDIT] There's no real way to defend this stupid app nonsense. It's dumb, it's stupid and it's overly complicated for no reason.
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
Slack is a company at a 3.8 billion valuation with about a third of their 200+ engineers mostly dedicated to communication software and they just implemented voice chat.
It isn't difficult, but implementing it right takes effort.
GuitarAtomik
Member
Do you honestly think they'll eliminate the ability to chat through the console if they do though? Like I said, it's a cool feature in addition, but not as the exclusive method. That's not forward thinking, that's passing the buck.
They don't make it a priority thus it isn't in their system. But still, gotta pay them for it.
chrisPjelly
Member
Welp, so much for "being unclear". This may be the worst online related decision I've ever seen in my life (aside from friend codes). Nintendo, you deserve to be butt of the entire industry. At least your game devs have the right ideas
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
Yes, if there is roadmap for the future of the Xbox platform, I am willing to bet that it points at SmartGlass being the primary UI in five years. Chatting through the console will still be supported, but not the primary most popular method.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
That's exactly what this is though. The implementation of voice chat that they're offering is practically striving to be worse than the default chat systems on the competitors' platforms.
lmaooo.
It makes no sense for games though, because you can either hear SmartGlass or hear the game. If you can somehow route the game audio through my phone/tablet while I play/chat then that's fine... but I have never seen that before and have no idea how it would work... though I guess it might be technically possible.
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
Discord already solves this by muting audio sources that are not near the communicator. We are in 2016, are you living in the 90's?
It already works. Download Discord, and play a game with your phone on speaker mode while chatting with people.
ForsakenLotus
Member
Of course then the question is why aren't you just using your console? If there is some cool ancillary things to do with Smartglass then have your tablet beside you, but I don't see how removing native console chat or even promoting using tablets or smartphones is a good choice.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
As muddled as the Switch presentation was, having mercilessly less of this idiot was to its betterment.
The sooner they completely phase him out, the better.
brochiller
Member
These accessory descriptions are making it unclear to me. Or am I reading them wrong? Many of their other accessories are officially licensed by Nintendo.
PDP Afterglow LVL 1 Chat Communicator for Nintendo Switch
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N5PB7VV/?tag=neogaf0e-20
PDP Afterglow LVL 3 Gaming Stereo Headset for Nintendo Switch
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N5PB7VV/?tag=neogaf0e-20
PDP Afterglow LVL 1 Chat Communicator for Nintendo Switch
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N5PB7VV/?tag=neogaf0e-20
PDP Afterglow LVL 3 Gaming Stereo Headset for Nintendo Switch
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N5PB7VV/?tag=neogaf0e-20
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
Good catch. Everything people are pointing out as potential issues have been already solved by smaller players in this industry. I am no Nintendo fan, and I can see them botching the execution, but the idea is forward thinking as I originally expressed.
ForsakenLotus
Member
Says the person who thinks using multiple devices to communicate in an online game is superior to native chat support that is very simple and offers the best quality.
IDontBeatGames
Member
Now now, wouldn't these too big for the Switch? I mean we are looking at bulky headsets here
Throwaway123456789
Member
This sounds insane. That Reggie quote is delusional.
Are they doing this because they don't have any way to connect a headset to the console when it's docked?
Are they doing this because they don't have any way to connect a headset to the console when it's docked?
Kurt Angle
Member
nintendo trying to SWITCH my preorder with every new bit of news
Mass Appeal
Member
MS is giving us another option to use. This is not going to replace party chat on the console though.
If Nintendo offered this as an option and not the only way to party chat then this thread wouldn't have this much negative feed back but Nintendo somehow thinks this should be the only option and that's what most of us are baffled about.
It's just a half ass excuse to not have a party chat app on the console itself. NINTENDO really needs to get their heads out of their asses and understand why xbox live and eventually psn became so big.
I remember GAF when ps4 OS features were announced and everyone was ecstatic about finally having a party chat option like Xbox Live already had for years. When I saw Nintendo announce they would be charging to play online, I fully expected them to finally catch up with how and online infastructure should work like XBL/PSN but I guess Nintendo thinks otherwise.
I will never, ever understand this glorification of Nintendo suits.
People even make fanarts of these dudes...
And Nintendo actively tries to present this bunch of unlikable men in suits as some sort of mascots...
It's so weird
There is zero reason for them to mention something this dumb unless it's something they think people actually want and they're going all-in on it.
But aren't these too bulky!!! Wow nintendo, make up your damn mind.