Why oh why did Neogafshitposts retire?
Wal-Mart scammed into price-matching the bogus 89.99$ PS4 listing on Amazon.
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Why oh why did Neogafshitposts retire?
plutoknight
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I'd be more worried about the employees who ARE shooting this down. Customers can get super violent.
One Christmas, when I worked in the electronics department, a customer wanted me to price match a TV for 200 bucks off based simply on a photograph he took of a price sticker at a store he claims was Sears. I told him no, and he knocked into me with the buggy and told me to price match it or he'd pin me up against the movies.
Management approved it.
Haunted
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Creating fake listings on Amazon to exploit this definitely crosses a line.
Taking advantage of a faulty listing done on Amazon's end is something else entirely than purposefully creating a false listing to mislead another company into price matching.
I'm all for taking advantage of larger corporations when the opportunity presents itself, but not like this.
Taking advantage of a faulty listing done on Amazon's end is something else entirely than purposefully creating a false listing to mislead another company into price matching.
I'm all for taking advantage of larger corporations when the opportunity presents itself, but not like this.
SystemUser
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MvmntInGrn
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Right, but managers still need to approve at the register right? I don't get where this "loosing jobs" thing comes in. Managers aren't going to loose their jobs over this, and its pretty much out of other employees hands.
prag16
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Somebody else who hasn't read (or at least hasn't comprehended) the thread.
I am sure Wal-Mart officially doesn't, and I doubt they trained their employees/managers to look if the product is shipped and sold by Amazon.
Either way, I would never do something like this. But I just find it funny how we as consumers who get fucked over and over again are hesitant to do a scam like this, when the company has fucked over the population as a whole and will continue to do so without giving a second thought. I am sure I am rambling on here.
Scofield94941
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I cant believe people are sticking up for straight up thievery
prag16
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Why does it matter who created the listing? If someone else takes that price listing, and in bad faith, goes to another retailer with intent to deceive them into thinking it was a legitimate selling price, and hence match that price; that's just fine and dandy?
Solid SOAP
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It's not thievery, you're still paying for the product, but it's definitely trickery. You're taking advantage of the possibility of someone's ignorance to get a grossly huge discount on something. Not thievery, but not exactly ethical either.
Yes it is.
And_Gignac
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I love this. More power for those who took advantage of it.
Yeah, if you're faking the listing to fool someone into price matching that's just a con using a novel prop.
The PS4 "price match" is complete bs, it was a fake price for a product that would not be delivered. The Sears Wii U was a mistake, but at least had an actual product attached to it. Sears made a mistake and paid for it (as well as Walmart) but the PS4 feels like if I wrote a fake ad and expected a store to honor it. I feel bad for the employees who we're told to PM this and lose a bonus
KoopaTheCasual
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It's almost like you guys didn't read this thread... oh.
This is one of those reading comprehension litmus test threads, right?
Mugatu
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It's pretty sad if you think someone not wanting to commit fraud is acting high and mighty - it's a serious offense. If someone ripped you off I'm sure you'd be completely fine with it, right?
DoktorEvil
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Note that we've had a Walmart employee in here saying stuff like this effects his bonus, presumably his Christmas bonus.
Taken with a grain of salt, if this is true these scammers are not dicking over a corporation, they're dicking over low-level employees who are famous worldwide as being underpaid already.
Yeah, show those poverty-stricken employees, guys. That'll teach Walmart.
ThatCrazyGuy
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Nobody is saying that, lol.
And_Gignac
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I read the OP. I don't have time to read 11 pages of comments. And well, I don't sympathize with corporative zealots and their artificial, profit centered "morality".
SuperCambot
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Look, we may really hate Wal-Mart for their corporate practices and we may hate the laws that make them legal...
But two wrongs definitely do not make a right. Knowingly exploiting a glitch that is by all accounts a mistake is wrong.
But two wrongs definitely do not make a right. Knowingly exploiting a glitch that is by all accounts a mistake is wrong.
Last time I checked, the utilitarian ethics model was worth considering, and it's a hard case to make to consider a corporate entity a human being. If people lose their jobs for following a corporate policy, you don't look to blame the consumers taking advantage of the policy, you blame the authors of punishment. Their principles need to be reviewed.
When consumers make faulty decisions for whatever reasons when doing business with corporations I don't see people running to the consumers defense in those cases: "Should've read the fine print!" "Should've done your research!".
This is some hilarious white-knighting and i'm actually going to see if I can take advantage of this today, in fact.
When consumers make faulty decisions for whatever reasons when doing business with corporations I don't see people running to the consumers defense in those cases: "Should've read the fine print!" "Should've done your research!".
This is some hilarious white-knighting and i'm actually going to see if I can take advantage of this today, in fact.
thats a poor defense. Its a scam.. the person doing it knows its a scam.
Completely different event. That was a store error
This is people putting up fake stores with fake low prices and then price matching
Man people read lol. Don't assume
Hey look, someone gets it.
These days there's too much of a "fuck it, got mine" attitude. Which works for someone exactly up until the point where you're shifted from "got mine" to the "fuck it" category by dickery such as this, and then suddenly they'll be up in arms about how wrong it is.
If it's wrong when it dicks you over, it doesn't suddenly get "right" if you're the one doing the dicking over.
Ploid 3.0
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Oh my gawd, reminds me of that walmart error situation where they were selling smart tvs and a lot of cool stuff for cheap on their website, then some people took advantage of in store pickup via ordering online. They made out like bandits.
Example. The 2 tvs were around $300 each.
Edit: It was last year too. I guess each November people try to get some crazy deals of their own before fighting with people on Black Friday.
Example. The 2 tvs were around $300 each.
Edit: It was last year too. I guess each November people try to get some crazy deals of their own before fighting with people on Black Friday.
It's always by new accounts. They're scammers.
So then those that got a WiiU price matched for $60 would equally be in the wrong. That was a glitch as well.
From the consumer level, they are exactly the same. Taking advantage of a glitch in pricing online. Unless you're honestly telling me that people unknowingly thought a $60 WiiU was a real deal.
Ultimodragon64
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Willing to bet most the people who have a problem with this already paid $400 for a PS4 before any good games were out.......
Wolfgunblood Garopa
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Yep, it's survival of the fittest out here in the electronics section. Some days you get some savvy internet dweller that makes you feel real uncomfortable, demanding a ludicrous price match with a fake amazon listing. Gotta applaud his gumption. Hey, it's my fault for gettin a paycheck here. One more thing I gotta deal with. Maybe it's another electronics section for me somewhere yonder down the road... them's the breaks.
KoopaTheCasual
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Oof, completely missing the point.
A few posts above yours:
So yea... stick it to those Sales Associates! That'll learn'em!
SuperCambot
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So then yes.
Solid SOAP
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You're paying for it though, just significantly less. This isn't a necessary debate because I'm pretty sure we're on the same page morally.
I agree with this completely. Sears messing up is a WAY different situation than fake Amazon listings. There's a very thick line between the two.
KoopaTheCasual
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The only thing hilarious is your need to rely on a utilitarian ethics model to help yourself not feel bad. That's sad. Own up to your shitty practice. At least people earlier in the thread had the balls to say "I don't care about that guy's job, I'm getting mine."
How so? From the standpoint of a consumer taking advantage of these deals I would argue they are exactly the same.
Did you know the price was wrong? You were made aware of it because people reported that there was a glitch.
So Sears screwed up and Walmart matched it. Fine! But you knew it was a mistake and did the deal anyway. Not illegal, yes, it's Sears/Walmart's fault. But you knew the price was wrong.
Altering the price of an item, and then paying the lower price for that item is literally a felony.
It's like software pirates who claim they're doing it to teach the companies a lesson.
Some people have to find excuses for their behavior so they can pretend it's not crappy. *shrug*
Solid SOAP
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I still feel that if you know the negative ramifications of your actions, you're in the wrong no matter which one you do. If you legitimately want to price match after seeing the internet price, whatever, but no matter which store you attempt to do the match with the effects it has on the people who work there will likely not change.
this wasn't a glitch this time it was a scam. Folks were using a scam to scam walmart employees. Like what you said earlier two wrongs don't make a right it just makes you a scammer even if it is against corporation you loathe. i'm not defending any of walmarts actions , i'm just not defending the actions of the people taking part in this scheme.
BlastProcessing
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You do realize that by calling people high and mighty you passing a moral judgement yourself, right?
It's ok; there's room on my High Horse's saddle for one more.
Solid SOAP
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Never said it wasn't, it's just not outright theft in my eyes. That doesn't not make it fraudulent, however.
joecanada
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until they all fix their prices higher to account for fraud/theft/losses..... yeah fuck the corporations indeed... that's not how it works.
I'm looking at this from an ethical perspective. Like the person who put up fake stores on Amazon to gain the system is different than a person who saw a price error at Sears and tried to price match.
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