ManaByte
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Vision is still dead.
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Airbus Jr
Banned
? And perhaps so is Pietro?
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ManaByte
Gold Member
Wanda is puppeteering Vision’s corpse. Kind of hard to do that with Pietro as his corpse was vaporized on Sakovia eight years before the series is set.
Airbus Jr
Banned
If Pietro still alive then why dont they bring back the same pietro instead of the x men version?
We still dont know the extend of Wanda capabilities
Read House of M she can create any reality she wants
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ManaByte
Gold Member
Sometimes actors don't want to return to a role?
AnotherDayAnotherDollar
Banned
Cap carried Pietro's body out of Sokovia. His body can be seen on the helicarrier next to Hawkeye in AoU.
Airbus Jr
Banned
Is it confirmed that Marvell Pietro doesnt want to reprise his role in this movie?
Sounds weird...especially during this pandemics...finding jobs for movies are not easy...
Why would he refuses some free money?
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ManaByte
Gold Member
Why would Terence Howard demand more money than RDJ?
Airbus Jr
Banned
ManaByte
Gold Member
Sometimes actors make stupid decisions.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
He could just be another animated corpse projection from her subconscious. Wasn't he shot full of holes by Ultron and not snapped away?
sol_bad
Member
Don't over think things.
Evan Peters is just another Westview resident being controlled against his will.
ManaByte
Gold Member
'WandaVision': Evan Peters Arrives in Westview as Wanda's Long-Lost Bro | Marvel
Yup it's starting to seem like all of the people writing articles claiming it's the Fox Quicksilver are going to look dumb.
AnotherDayAnotherDollar
Banned
Mikey Sutton is never wrong!
I don't think they are just replacing ATJ with Peters, but I don't think it's Fox's Quicksilver being brought over to the MCU either.
Irobot82
Member
It's the multiverse, why not?
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
Finally sat down to watch all of this. The first couple of episodes were bit slow in my opinion, but once we started to see the real world side by side with the fake one it got much more interesting. I have enjoyed watching all of the easter egg videos for each episode and speculating about it all with friends.
They turned me into a weekly viewer I think.
They turned me into a weekly viewer I think.
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Stouffers
Banned
She’s temporarily powering Vision with her mind stone powers. She can’t actually resurrect anything,
AnotherDayAnotherDollar
Banned
I mean it is possible, I just think there's more at play here. Certainly it could be, but I think it's a red herring and it's something else entirely. I can post my speculation if you want.
My post was poking fun of this "scoopster" that tends to some major mental gymnastics to say that everything he says is correct.
Irobot82
Member
Yeah. It's just fun to watch. I love seeing that "easter egg" I love that they put the gasp track in there. They are really nailing the show right now.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
The speculation with friends part is what's keeping me going. I have a friend who's much more into comics than me and watching him get ecstatic over the show with his theories is a great part of its appeal. I enjoy some of the gags and homages to old shows as well. It's not the best thing ever but it's compelling tv in a time when not much has grabbed me.
Nester99
Member
Wanda can shape reality.
I think she had a psychotic break and an evil force is manipulating it
bitbydeath
Member
I’m surprised no one is suspecting the neighbour yet.
-Agnes is always around
-She introduced herself to them
-She isn’t phased when something unnatural occurs like the kids ageing.
-She appears to have free will as she was talking to the hedge cutter neighbour
I would keep an eye on her
-Agnes is always around
-She introduced herself to them
-She isn’t phased when something unnatural occurs like the kids ageing.
-She appears to have free will as she was talking to the hedge cutter neighbour
I would keep an eye on her
ManaByte
Gold Member
No one? Most people think she's really Agatha Harkness.
bitbydeath
Member
I don’t see Agatha mentioned in this thread?
BadBurger
Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
I see all of this as a way to introduce the multiverse. We already know Wanda will be in the Doctor Strange film regarding it. I'll be happy to watch how it all plays out.
My speculation based off my very limited comic knowledge:
Anyways, after those first two slow episodes this has turned into my favorite show in a long time. I'll be watching every Friday.
My speculation based off my very limited comic knowledge:
Wanda struck a deal with Mephisto, who we haven't seen yet, and for whom Agnes works for / with. And within the "hex" Vision truly is alive, her children are real, as it has been established that even materials that enter are literally transformed or transfigured. The problem is that they cannot leave it.
Anyways, after those first two slow episodes this has turned into my favorite show in a long time. I'll be watching every Friday.
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John2290
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This isn't even worth the months cost of Disney plus, the sheep being fed crumbs by Disney's social media bots are out again and going along for the ride. It's the Mandalorian all over again, no body can truly believe the hyberbolic nonsense praise they are spitting out about these bland, badly shot, day time TV trash heaps.
ManaByte
Gold Member
John2290
Member
Disney really can buy they're way into peoples hearts.
ManaByte
Gold Member
GeorgioCostanzaX
Member
It would be a completely wasted opportunity if they didn’t use this as a way to bring in the X-men. I wouldn’t be surprised if this was essentially the long plan all along by bringing the wonder twins into the MCU during age of Ultron. Feige knows how to play comics nerds like a fiddle and even people who’ve just been fans of the movies in general. Without the FOX acquisition this cameo wouldn’t have happened.
ManaByte
Gold Member
Again you're assuming he's the Fox version of Quicksilver. There are still four hours left in the show.
GeorgioCostanzaX
Member
Not assuming anything just speculating; Occam’s razor and all that. For it not to be him and for it just to be a coincidence is oddly more convoluted than using FO X-verse Quicksilver as a bridge to introducing a property disney paid over $7 billion to acquire. Casting the same actor and not following up with more meaning would not only be a dumb cocktease but an expensive wasted opportunity. There were literally no other X-men characters but Wanda and Quicksilver in the current MCU so having Fasbender or Jackman just randomly show up makes no sense from a story telling standpoint.
From a storytelling standpoint you just see him on screen and there’s no need to speculate: the X-men are just a part of the MCU multiverse now which launched in EndGame when time travel became a thing. It’s a visually easy way to do it.
This doesn’t have to be an overwrought convoluted and over plotted explanation requiring a 10 minute montage and VO like the Snap returnees all being mutants now or the energy released by Tony’s Snap destroying the infinity stones leading to massive gamma ray mutations or some dumb shit.
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LaughingStock
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Well, we will know for sure next Friday.
ManaByte
Gold Member
Next Friday's episode leaked in Indonesia.
BadBurger
Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
An article about Evan Peters's casting with comments from the creator:
thedirect.com
WandaVision Creator Explains Why X-Men's Evan Peters Returns In MCU Show
WandaVision creator Jac Schaeffer says the Evan Peters surprise cameo
thedirect.com
sol_bad
Member
sssshhhhhhhh
ManaByte
Gold Member
An article about Evan Peters's casting with comments from the creator:
WandaVision Creator Explains Why X-Men's Evan Peters Returns In MCU Show
WandaVision creator Jac Schaeffer says the Evan Peters surprise cameo
Posted above from the original source without the clickbait title.
Bridges
Member
Playing Devil's advocate here, the "recast" remark definitely doesn't mean anything in regards to whether or not this is the same Quicksilver from Fox. It would make sense for the MCU characters to interpret it as a "recast" because none of them have ever seen this guy before who is claiming to be her brother, it's not like they would've immediately guessed "he's from another reality!" upon just seeing him, and of course it plays into the sitcom format to phrase it that way.
Of course I don't know for sure what's happening but either way I'm excited. I am in agreement with
GeorgioCostanzaX
though that it almost seems more convoluted to have a Fox actor reprise his role if it isn't for some bigger picture tie-in. Nobody made a fuss about Hulk or War Machine so if it were a legitimate recast without story implications I'd imagine they'd have treated it differently. Can't wait to find out what's going on
bitbydeath
Member
The main part in question though is
Geraldines/Rambos clothes exited the hex but still remained transformed in their 70’s apparel.
ManaByte
Gold Member
Playing Devil's advocate here, the "recast" remark definitely doesn't mean anything in regards to whether or not this is the same Quicksilver from Fox. It would make sense for the MCU characters to interpret it as a "recast" because none of them have ever seen this guy before who is claiming to be her brother, it's not like they would've immediately guessed "he's from another reality!" upon just seeing him, and of course it plays into the sitcom format to phrase it that way.
Of course I don't know for sure what's happening but either way I'm excited. I am in agreement with
Can't wait to find out what's going on
They've already established there are over a thousand people in the town affected, and there's a FBI witness who's in there that they've already foreshadowed in the show.
BadBurger
Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
The clothes were actual physical things that entered the hex and transformed, then sent back out. I think that's the key difference. Vision is a dead thing, but he is given real life within the hex. Their children were created within or perhaps by whatever is driving the hex. VIsion's life, those children, I don't think they can exist outside of it. That's why Wanda so sadly told Vision "No.... we can't" when he told her they could go anywhere.
That's my theory anyway.
Bridges
Member
You could be right that it's that simple, but once again I'm more of the mind that going to the effort of having Evan Peters come back only to later reveal that he's just some dude who lived in the town and has nothing to do with his former Xmen role makes less sense to me, especially knowing we're on the heels of the multiverse
ManaByte
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For fans it seems that simple, but in Hollywood it's not. The version of Quicksilver in the X-Men movies was created by Bryan Singer and Simon Kinberg. To use that version of the character they'd need to not only pay them but give them producer credits. That's why Zack Snyder is credited on any movie where a Justice League character appears, because he created those versions of Wonder Woman and Aquaman; even if he has nothing to do with their movies he gets a producer credit.
They could have Evan Peters play a version of Quicksilver from a different universe, but he couldn't have the silver jacket or goggles like he did in the Singerverse without those producers getting credit.
That's one reason why JK Simmons' MCU version of JJ doesn't work for a newspaper or look anything like he did in the Raimi movies. If they did that, then Avi Arad and Matt Tolmach would then need to given producer credit and part of the Sony/Disney Spider-Man deal is that those two aren't allowed anywhere near the Spidey franchise when Feige is producing the movies for Sony. Jamie Foxx's Electro in Spider-Man 3 apparently looks different than the dead Electro from ASM2, again to avoid having to involve Avi Arad at all.
sol_bad
Member
It makes sense when you look at the evidence presented. A town with 4000 residents are mind controlled to be part of this sitcom reality and they are all given different identities to play along with.
Making it Piotre from the Fox-Men movies is over complicating things. Mutants certainly won't come from an alternate reality. There is too much bad baggage there and Feige would be limited in what he can do.
ManaByte
Gold Member
They're not bringing the Fantastic Four in from the Fox universe. They're doing Mutants the MCU way, one of which is to go to Madripoor which is somewhere Fox never went (and there are even rumors that Ka-zar is on the table too).
GeorgioCostanzaX
Member
Yeah regardless I’m sure it will be interesting I don’t have any emotional investment in my theory being correct I just think it raises way too many questions for it not to be the case: if it’s not intended to be a bridge to FOX and mutants why muddy the pool by casting the same actor? If that’s not the intent they should have just cast someone else and given him pure white hair like the comics instead of going with the grey silver Fox verse variant.Playing Devil's advocate here, the "recast" remark definitely doesn't mean anything in regards to whether or not this is the same Quicksilver from Fox. It would make sense for the MCU characters to interpret it as a "recast" because none of them have ever seen this guy before who is claiming to be her brother, it's not like they would've immediately guessed "he's from another reality!" upon just seeing him, and of course it plays into the sitcom format to phrase it that way.
Of course I don't know for sure what's happening but either way I'm excited. I am in agreement with
Can't wait to find out what's going on
sol_bad
Member
If they cast someone else, the current conversations wouldn't take place. They knew this would drum up conversation and theories.
GeorgioCostanzaX
Member
Exactly for it not to have a payoff would be a missed opportunity.
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