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WandaVision |OT| Wanda's Mental Multiverse Breakdown

BadBurger

Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
Exactly for it not to have a payoff would be a missed opportunity.

I think it's Evan Peters's Pietro, he's just influenced and acting differently like everyone else is within the hex (aside from Vision, Agnes, that black dude neighbor Agnes was speaking with who's name escapes me, apparently the kids, and of course Wanda). But he was sucked in from.... wherever. Earth 203 or whatever? Whatever they decide to call the Fox world in the MCU.

My far outside theory: Agnes is a projection of Wanda's dead mother. Like Feige and crew did with the Mandarin, they're getting us to expect one thing with a minor character while winding up to deliver a different pitch entirely. Wanda and as I mentioned earlier Mephisto are the only two truly living beings, living as one would typically understand the term, within that place. EDIT: aside from the mind controlled people of course - so I should say living things that still have complete agency
 
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sol_bad

Member
I think it's Evan Peters's Pietro, he's just influenced and acting differently like everyone else is within the hex (aside from Vision, Agnes, that black dude neighbor Agnes was speaking with who's name escapes me, apparently the kids, and of course Wanda). But he was sucked in from.... wherever. Earth 203 or whatever? Whatever they decide to call the Fox world in the MCU.

My far outside theory: Agnes is a projection of Wanda's dead mother. Like Feige and crew did with the Mandarin, they're getting us to expect one thing with a minor character while winding up to deliver a different pitch entirely. Wanda and as I mentioned earlier Mephisto are the only two truly living beings, living as one would typically understand the term, within that place. EDIT: aside from the mind controlled people of course - so I should say living things that still have complete agency

Once this mystery is solved and there is no more Westview bubble and all the residents have their own minds back, what's the point of Evan Peters "Fox-Man Quicksilver" then? He is stuck on an Earth where he knows no one, has no idea who Wanda is and he is a single mutant on his own?
 

Blade2.0

Member
And? Vision is dead too? So?

Isnt Wanda power is to bring back dead people she cares like Vision and Pietro to her reality?
She hasn't been able to admit to Pietro's death. Every time she's asked she tries really hard to deny it happened. She says he's far away, etc. So this is obviously another denial tactic.
 

BadBurger

Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
Once this mystery is solved and there is no more Westview bubble and all the residents have their own minds back, what's the point of Evan Peters "Fox-Man Quicksilver" then? He is stuck on an Earth where he knows no one, has no idea who Wanda is and he is a single mutant on his own?

For the plot, in another world he was literally her brother. Maybe there's rules to all of this we don't know yet or, if I'm correct, it's the kind of thing Mephisto would do. It has nothing to do with him being a mutant I am guessing.

From the business side of things it's because he was in the Fox shows and a fan favorite and has some cachet with younger viewers so they'd like to include him.

Just more fun speculation. Should be fun to find out what's really going on.
 

Majmun

Member
I never knew Wanda was this powerful. Never heard of her before the Avengers movies.

It’s crazy what she’s doing. And I don’t think putting her in jail after this will be an option!
 

ManaByte

Gold Member
I never knew Wanda was this powerful. Never heard of her before the Avengers movies.

It’s crazy what she’s doing. And I don’t think putting her in jail after this will be an option!
doctor strange avengers GIF by Marvel Studios
 

John Day

Member
Wait what has happened with the agent sent in theu the sewers? The Beekeeper, he wasn’t pushed out like Monica.
 

Bridges

Member
Damn I was pissed when the credits began to roll, what a cliffhanger.

Yeah the X-men tie in theory seems pretty dead now, but there's still a bunch of questions as to who this new Quicksilver really is. He's seemingly got all of the real Quicksilver's memories and even appears to have died in the same way, but then why does he look different? Why does Wanda and even Pietro himself acknowledge that he looks different? I'd have been willing to accept the theory that he is just another brainwashed townsperson forced to play the part but that does not explain the scene of him with bullet holes, hopefully we get some more elaboration on that coming up.

If we're following the path laid out beforehand, we only have one more Television themed episode (Modern Family), so we should be getting a lot more "real world" story going forward.

This show is so damn good, I have so many questions, absolutely can't wait for the next episode.
 

Soodanim

Member
Damn I was pissed when the credits began to roll, what a cliffhanger.

Yeah the X-men tie in theory seems pretty dead now, but there's still a bunch of questions as to who this new Quicksilver really is. He's seemingly got all of the real Quicksilver's memories and even appears to have died in the same way, but then why does he look different? Why does Wanda and even Pietro himself acknowledge that he looks different? I'd have been willing to accept the theory that he is just another brainwashed townsperson forced to play the part but that does not explain the scene of him with bullet holes, hopefully we get some more elaboration on that coming up.

If we're following the path laid out beforehand, we only have one more Television themed episode (Modern Family), so we should be getting a lot more "real world" story going forward.

This show is so damn good, I have so many questions, absolutely can't wait for the next episode.
I tend to overthink these things and be way off the mark, but Wanda and Quicksilver are both conscious and confused. Pietro being pulled in from the Multiverse and given new memories yet freedom like Vision would half explain it, but only if the bullet wounds were a hallucination and not a glitch in the matrix. And Vision's dead state was a glitch in the matrix, so the chances are I'm very wrong.

Doesn't Agnes' susceptibility to control, even if she has more autonomy than the others, put an end to the theory that she is something more?
 

ManaByte

Gold Member
Yeah the X-men tie in theory seems pretty dead now, but there's still a bunch of questions as to who this new Quicksilver really is. He's seemingly got all of the real Quicksilver's memories and even appears to have died in the same way, but then why does he look different? Why does Wanda and even Pietro himself acknowledge that he looks different? I'd have been willing to accept the theory that he is just another brainwashed townsperson forced to play the part but that does not explain the scene of him with bullet holes, hopefully we get some more elaboration on that coming up.
Pietro dropped some hints, like saying he was just playing his part.
 

Soodanim

Member
Pietro dropped some hints, like saying he was just playing his part.
I think the key must be in Pietro's telling of events. He said he was getting shot then the next thing he remembers is being needed by Wanda. His differing memories from hers do suggest he is more of a free agent as opposed to being full on manipulated like everyone else, even if he is there to play his part. I forget, did X-Men Quicksilver spend time in an orphanage? Does what Pietro said line up at all?
 

Sp3eD

0G M3mbeR
I found it interesting that this episodes “intro” is the only time so far Agnes is put on screen and name labeled as a main character. Oddly enough I don’t think she was in the actual “show” at all this time.

dumb guess theory that my friend and I have for being who is behind this.

Its the mail man.
 
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ManaByte

Gold Member
I think the key must be in Pietro's telling of events. He said he was getting shot then the next thing he remembers is being needed by Wanda. His differing memories from hers do suggest he is more of a free agent as opposed to being full on manipulated like everyone else, even if he is there to play his part. I forget, did X-Men Quicksilver spend time in an orphanage? Does what Pietro said line up at all?
Fox Pietro lived at home with his mom and little sister (they weren't twins or anywhere near the same age) and Magneto was his father. So no there's nothing in WandaVision to point to him being the Fox version at all.
 

TGO

Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Vision is still dead.
I thought this until the last episode
Now I'm not sure if he is restricted to the hex because he can not live outside or because nothing can leave the Hex

But he did push through and he wasn't dead on the other side, then the Hex started pulling him back.
I assume anybody else wouldn't be able to get through, so him forcing it is what was ripping him apart.
And the fact Wanda didn't even know suggests she doesn't actually control him.
I also believe those flashes of of them dead is not what they actually look like, it just what Wanda is seeing because she knows they're dead
 

sol_bad

Member
I hope the last 3 episodes are an hour or close to each. Based on what the show runners have said, the total run time is roughly 6 hours so it seems possible.

Anyone else find it weird that Dottie hasn't really shown up again? With them making a big deal about her in the 2nd episode, I'm surprised she has just disappeared.

And I'm really curious to see what happens to Tommy and Billy once the hex bubble is closed.
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ManaByte

Gold Member

sol_bad

Member
The director said they’re an hour.

He confirmed the full run time is about 6 hours, didn't confirm specific episode lengths.



Also, Wandavision the number 1 show worldwide.

But on Feb. 5, when episode five was released featuring a shocking ending, the Jac Schaeffer-created series propelled to the title of “number one series worldwide.” It has remained there ever since as of Feb. 7, the last day data was available.
 
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bitbydeath

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Since Nicholas Scratch is Agnes’s son, does that make Sabrina now cannon with Marvel?


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Don’t ruin this for me.
 

GloveSlap

Member
The only thing i don't like about the show is they went from Family Ties straight to Malcolm in the Middle. I feel like the early 90s shows like Full House and Family Matters was a pretty big era for sitcoms.
 
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