Marion Cobretti
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The plot twist is gonna be that Kushner is Putin's son.
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WaPo: Kushner wanted secret communications channel with Kremlin
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Herr Schwarz
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In a way though this takes away from the public hearings.
Can you imagine how much better it would be catching Kushner in a web of lies on live television as a senator verbally entraps him?
You'd get his expression of "oh wow I'm fucked" in real time!!!
Kushner, Trump etc. It's so strange I think these people have been drinking their own kool-aid for so long they think they are untouchable sinister geniuses. To a lesser extent, so does Vlad.
The FBI buggers kids like Carter Page and Kushner for breakfast. They're about to realise they were never the smartest people in the room.
Can you imagine how much better it would be catching Kushner in a web of lies on live television as a senator verbally entraps him?
You'd get his expression of "oh wow I'm fucked" in real time!!!
Kushner, Trump etc. It's so strange I think these people have been drinking their own kool-aid for so long they think they are untouchable sinister geniuses. To a lesser extent, so does Vlad.
The FBI buggers kids like Carter Page and Kushner for breakfast. They're about to realise they were never the smartest people in the room.
Big Baybee
Member
I wonder what other info the WaPo or The NY Times has been sitting on, waiting for it to be fully vetted.
Host Samurai
Member
I bet Trey Gowdy is sweating balls now
He'll fight this until forcibly removed or sent to prison. He only ever backs away from a problem by throwing money at it, that won't work here. He has no sense of personal responsibility or respect for the office. He also has no plan for any action he has ever taken in his life and his entire career is lined with proof of it. He survives only by threats, wealth, and poor excuses.
Could get ugly and personal though as a completely unhinged man riling up his cult would. It'll backfire though, his Twitter ramblings and stump bluster won't carry the same weight as in the campaign once the real crazy desperation begins. The key will be Republican leaders and whether they die on this hill or finally turn a corner. Some may remove themselves from office to avoid the rising tide even.
As Chaffetz did. Hopefully the first of many.
Leona Lewis
Banned
That seems to be his face's default mode.
TheTylerDurden
Member
yeah, no worries. I was just looking for clarity on that point.
That would be Empire Strikes Back tier
Trump is so misogynist he won't even let his daughter be part of his corruption
JetBlackPanda
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We're fucked guys. I do this thing where I have to check the local news article on this stuff, I live in Utah. Well it's ALL wapo fake news liberal gate. This is normal and he is trying to beat isis etc etc.
They see nothing wrong expect the wapo trying to take down the great leader.
They see nothing wrong expect the wapo trying to take down the great leader.
jellies_two
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I searched her book for inspiring quotes on coping when your husband goes down for a fivetoten stretch but couldn't find anything. I think the idea he may end up in jail is out beyond her worst nightmare.
TheCochese
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He'd have to ask Brennan for them back first.
THE REAL ISSUE ARE THE LEAKS, HOW DO WE JUSTIFY FUNDING YOUR INTELLIGENCE PROGRAM IF YOU KEEP UNMASKING PEOPLE?
JohnTinker
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🎶Every Kislyak begins with K🎶
Don't forget, Trump is polishing her up for 2024!
Me? A Trump supporter? Go pull up every single post of mine related to Trump and show me supporting Trump. My only argument is with Republicans in power have shown an outright refusal to support a full investigation of these actions. This refusal means not one of these alleged traitors to democracy go to jail or face any meaningful sanctions.
As someone that lived through the GOAT Obama's era this whole thing is laughably sad. I remember being proud of the President. This person in office makes me cringe every time he's in the news. Every other day there's some form of corrupt action being revealed by this current administration and we haven't hit six months yet.
All that Corrupt Hillary talk came back in the form of mosquito that is biting every last affiliate of Trump right in the tuchas.
*EDIT*
Trump probably takes the NFL head coach stance on firing assistants. Sure you can get him to fire a defensive line coach if it's serious but firing his defensive coordinator three weeks into the season with their defense looking top notch, in this case Kushner's successful business dealings, is a hard sell. Trump does not care about perception and will more than likely keep Kushner on in his current role and maybe jettison him if the situation gets worse.
jellies_two
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When did woolsey arrive and leave transition?
He has form on calling out misbehavior - he told the press he saw Flynn illegally making a deal with turkey.
https://apnews.com/15d113eaca184558...hief-flynns-firm-discussed-removing-cleric-us
Edit:
He left January 6th.
Probably after thinking about how awful it was over the Christmas New Years break.
After he left:
He has form on calling out misbehavior - he told the press he saw Flynn illegally making a deal with turkey.
https://apnews.com/15d113eaca184558...hief-flynns-firm-discussed-removing-cleric-us
Edit:
He left January 6th.
Probably after thinking about how awful it was over the Christmas New Years break.
After he left:
PlayALLtheGames
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Kushner is just as shady as the rest of the Trump circle. What a fucking circus and what a group of absolutely horrible, human beings.
Oh fuck yes I like this news even better. Get DeVos OUTTA THERE
Not belittling the rest of this: it's huge but also they're already boned at this point.
onken
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I think the story is true but this is shitty discrimination of 19th century proportions. "Raised from criminal stock" Please.
Angelus Errare
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We can't put Kushner in jail, if we do...who will bring peace to the middle east?!?
"Those who understand strategy are sitting in awe of Trump the Master right now."
Ivanka.
ElRenoRaven
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I'd put my money on 2 to be honest. If it was anyone else I'd say that's crazy. I think Trump is that delusional though. He'd probably start calling on his crazies to come to DC and defend their glorious leader. Sadly there are plenty that would probably come too.
Kushner may go to jail, but his superhero alter-ego "The Kush" will live on to defend the Middle East from terrorists.
Its like people have no idea how the reputable press works.
rokkerkory
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Sounds shady as fuck but we still need to know WHY all this Russian linkages.
I say follow the $$$ trail and we'll find it.
I say follow the $$$ trail and we'll find it.
Fantastical
Death Prophet
People truly have no idea how it works. They think these papers just print anything.
NullPointer
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The press has had to make a big show of discounting the unverified dossier but I don't know why anybody else has to. Steele is credible, most of Steel's sources for his information are considered credible, and the story behind how we ended up getting it lends even more credence. Its more than deranged musings, as becomes evident with each new batch of revelations.
The idea that he might have been raised to see some amoral actions as acceptable isn't relying upon genetics. Look at Trump and who helped to shape his warped but effective (for him) world view. I don't know Kushner from Adam, but then again, how many people do? Talk about the most unvetted person in the administration with the most seats at the most tables.
Gotta admit, the statement rings true even when taken in the complete opposite sense of how it was intended.
Those who understand strategy sit in awe of that kind of thing ;p
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
Money laundering through Trumps campaign and collusion on hacking
He's just wiping more bacon grease on his face.
Starfish_Oxide
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This reads to me as "back-channelling is wrong, but only if the FBI don't like you".
stenbumling
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I hate Bill Mitchell more than I hate Donald Trump. I am not even convinced he is a real person.
OG Shaka Zulu
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I don't think you did read it.
BronsonLee
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So are we all in agreement that most of this is the IC/press forming a Dangerous Alliance to take down our administration or nah
Autodidact
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This thread prompted me to re-examine the earlier WaPo article about Erik Prince from April. As some in here have speculated, it seems plausible that he visited the Seychelles Islands to establish this back channel that Kushner wanted. But this post from that earlier thread seems interesting to me:
Betsy DeVos is Erik Prince's sister, and it's likely that she knew about any shady business her brother conducted for Trump. Why else do you think she got the cabinet position? The Salon article also traces a connection between the DeVoses - or, more accurate, a facility the husband's involved in - and clandestine Russian communications in Michigan.
I wouldn't be surprised if we get some leaks about Dick and Betsy. It'd actually be brilliant strategy on the press and IC's part. She's patently unqualified for the job, to the point where there was bipartisan opposition to her confirmation; the public has reacted negatively even to "normal" stories about her; and she's not family, so Trump isn't that loyal to her. The whole "Russian stooge in charge of your kids' education" angle might be damaging, too.
Sorry if this seems off-topic, but if they pursue the back channel story, I have a feeling Erik Prince's name will come up again. And if he's dragged into it, the DeVoses will be, too.
Betsy DeVos is Erik Prince's sister, and it's likely that she knew about any shady business her brother conducted for Trump. Why else do you think she got the cabinet position? The Salon article also traces a connection between the DeVoses - or, more accurate, a facility the husband's involved in - and clandestine Russian communications in Michigan.
I wouldn't be surprised if we get some leaks about Dick and Betsy. It'd actually be brilliant strategy on the press and IC's part. She's patently unqualified for the job, to the point where there was bipartisan opposition to her confirmation; the public has reacted negatively even to "normal" stories about her; and she's not family, so Trump isn't that loyal to her. The whole "Russian stooge in charge of your kids' education" angle might be damaging, too.
Sorry if this seems off-topic, but if they pursue the back channel story, I have a feeling Erik Prince's name will come up again. And if he's dragged into it, the DeVoses will be, too.
Why do you think it's dangerous? Seems to be beneficial to both.
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